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Just when I was started to like Dana (a little)

My understanding is Dana's current, un-extended contract ends in january of 2017

It's December 2017. So if he were fired today, he'd receive about $6 million, plus assistants. If he's fired a year from today, it's $3 million plus assistants.
 
It's December 2017. So if he were fired today, he'd receive about $6 million, plus assistants. If he's fired a year from today, it's $3 million plus assistance.

then there ought to be a lynch party at luck's front door
 
problem is recruits are now saying the program is not stable.
And the recruits are correct. Period. As I understand the terms of the agreement presented to Dana I, too, would have turned it down. IF Lyons wanted to not harm the program (largely by destroying any chance of bringing in a good recruiting class in 2017) he would not have gone public, and he would not have doubled down by slashing assistant's contracts to one year (a rather obvious sign of instability). So the blame for the mess in Morgantown is the fault of Clements, Luck, and Dana? Lyons has no association with what has befallen the program? REALLY? I would have been terminated instantly by my superiors during my 50+ years as an executive for similar actions. Oh, forgot, maybe some of these 'superiors' are entangled with with the mess.
 
i miss ole hank. what's he up to these days

That's a name i haven't heard in a while, but I'm sure he's off deep throating John Raese somewhere. Someone posted a picture of Hank on here a few months back. It explained a lot, and told the story as to why he is so miserable [laughing]
 
I'm an alum, and I've met him and know many others that have as well, so you are wrong there.

traveling the state promoting the university = not his job,

raising money = not his job

calling plays = his job.

you are clueless sir.
Well, Gee and Lyons see things differently and so do every other major University in America. LOL.
 
Several recruits expressed they're excited and love the fact the school isn't willing to over-commit AND Dana has the 'nads to earn a longer/larger contract based on results in the coming season (or two).
 
That's a name i haven't heard in a while, but I'm sure he's off deep throating John Raese somewhere. Someone posted a picture of Hank on here a few months back. It explained a lot, and told the story as to why he is so miserable [laughing]
you can find him on Facebook under Mike Hall and I believe C&M Marine Distributing.
 
Well, Gee and Lyons see things differently and so do every other major University in America. LOL.

what? Dana's job is to coach football. he makes appearances at functions as he is required to do, and rubs shoulders at alumni events, i've witnessed it first hand.

save the fundraising for the athletic director.
 
what? Dana's job is to coach football. he makes appearances at functions as he is required to do, and rubs shoulders at alumni events, i've witnessed it first hand.

save the fundraising for the athletic director.
well, Dr. Gee and Lyons thinks he needs to be more involved in promoting the program. Its why the guy is DOA unless something major happens next season. Nick Saban spends time with alumni, the Dabo Sweeney is trying to build his program and part of it is out meeting alums and getting donations for new facilities.
 
whose side are you on WVU's or Dana's? Because of this crap contract WVU is in a difficult position

Look man, i see what you are getting at, but you should be blaming Oliver Luck. It would be financially irresponsible for Dana to sign the extension Lyons gave him and I'd question his judgement if he did so.

How can you blame a man for looking out for his own interests?
 
well, Dr. Gee and Lyons thinks he needs to be more involved in promoting the program. Its why the guy is DOA unless something major happens next season. Nick Saban spends time with alumni, the Dabo Sweeney is trying to build his program and part of it is out meeting alums and getting donations for new facilities.

Dana goes out and meets alums and appears at donor functions regularly, so I'm not sure what you are getting at. If Dana was winning at a rate those guys are, this wouldn't be an issue.

Perhaps Gee shouldn't be running his mouth either, the last time he did Ohio State had to fire him.
 
Dana goes to the spring MAC events
Dana goes out and meets alums and appears at donor functions regularly, so I'm not sure what you are getting at. If Dana was winning at a rate those guys are, this wouldn't be an issue.

Perhaps Gee shouldn't be running his mouth either, the last time he did Ohio State had to fire him.

Dana shows up at MAC events and that is it. Tell me one other event he goes to? None! Its a part of his job to go sell his program. Dabo Sweeney has a vision for his program and he is out selling the program to alums, and people that can write checks. He does this along with the AD. This is basic stuff. Problem is our current administration wants their coach out meeting people and selling the program and Dana does not do it. One time when Dana first got here Luck had a $10,000 a plate dinner and the money was going towards facilities upgrades to the football program and Dana started yelling at a donor half way into the dinner because he didn't like a question someone asked him. No kidding! How can Lyons raise money for the football program when Dana cant get along with the alums who is writing the checks. In the real world donor's want access when they write checks and Dana wont even call them back.
 
What kind of access should they get? That's a slippery slope, we've seen boosters and their egos take down football programs before. See Texas.
 
Look guys, Dana's days in Morgantown are numbered unless he wins 10 games or more this year. Lyons and Gee want something different out of their coach then what they are getting. Also, its my understanding Dana was not so nice during the last round of contract talks and Lyons and Gee are not happy. So, having said that unless we win big in 2016 this will be the last of the OJT in Morgantown.
 
Look guys, Dana's days in Morgantown are numbered unless he wins 10 games or more this year. Lyons and Gee want something different out of their coach then what they are getting. Also, its my understanding Dana was not so nice during the last round of contract talks and Lyons and Gee are not happy. So, having said that unless we win big in 2016 this will be the last of the OJT in Morgantown.

It's going to be Dana's last year anyway whether we go 12-0 or 0-12; we win big and he high tails it out of town or we have a bad season and he's fired. It's clear that neither party have any interest in a working relationship together.

And the OJT is far from over, we are seeing it right now with Mr. Lyons
 
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What kind of access should they get? That's a slippery slope, we've seen boosters and their egos take down football programs before. See Texas.
at least allow alums to get into the Hall of Traditions. Sideline passes. come to practice at certain times.

Allowing access happens everywhere. Come on don't act like that is nasty word. This is part of building a program and Dana does not of this. I mean none.
 
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It's going to be Dana's last year anyway whether we go 12-0 or 0-12; we win big and he high tails it out of town or we have a bad season and he's fired. It's clear that neither party have any interest in a working relationship together.

And the OJT is far from over, we are seeing it right now with Mr. Lyons
It's going to be Dana's last year anyway whether we go 12-0 or 0-12; we win big and he high tails it out of town or we have a bad season and he's fired. It's clear that neither party have any interest in a working relationship together.

And the OJT is far from over, we are seeing it right now with Mr. Lyons
Well, I would be surprised who would hire him because most if not all the coaches are WVU guys would want to stay at WVU or close home.
 
It's going to be Dana's last year anyway whether we go 12-0 or 0-12; we win big and he high tails it out of town or we have a bad season and he's fired. It's clear that neither party have any interest in a working relationship together.

And the OJT is far from over, we are seeing it right now with Mr. Lyons
and BTW, Gee is calling the shots
 
It's going to be Dana's last year anyway whether we go 12-0 or 0-12; we win big and he high tails it out of town or we have a bad season and he's fired. It's clear that neither party have any interest in a working relationship together.

And the OJT is far from over, we are seeing it right now with Mr. Lyons

Absolutely correct. Dana could win it all next year and he will still be gone. The divorce is complete, all that is left is for everyone to exit the courthouse.
 
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Well, I would be surprised who would hire him because most if not all the coaches are WVU guys would want to stay at WVU or close home.

Just about any program in the country would hire him as an OC, and he'd certainly be able to get a HC job at a smaller school - a program of Marshall's caliber.

If Lyons botches this situation and hires a guy that tanks program, then Shane's future isn't so bright.
 
Dana has already been paid millions by WV to coach a dadgum football game. Millions! You can't hurt the man. OK............go ahead and sling him in the briarpatch. He will still land on his feet. He has about $12 Million in the bank right now!
 
Just about any program in the country would hire him as an OC, and he'd certainly be able to get a HC job at a smaller school - a program of Marshall's caliber.

If Lyons botches this situation and hires a guy that tanks pogram, then Shane's future isn't so bright.
Look Gee and Lyons want a different look for the program. They already have people they like and it will be someone with Head Coaching experience. Clements and Luck made a huge mistake taking someone that had never been a head coach. That mistake will not be made again. Changing coaches has a huge risk factor and that was told to Clements before the Stew saga and he hired a guy that had no idea what he was doing outside of running an offense. Dana is not head coach material at this level
 
Who do they have lined up? With the names I've heard, I'd rather just keep Dana.

Rich and Tressel - Too much baggage and JT ain't taking the job anyway. Rich would probably take the job, but he's not enough of an upgrade to justify the drama it would create, and his defenses suck.

Pelini - No thanks. The man is unstable mentally, there's a reason he is coaching FCS. This fan base would hate him. If you think he's going to go out and market the program and rub shoulders with donors, you are fooling yourself.

Who have you heard?
 
Who do they have lined up? With the names I've heard, I'd rather just keep Dana.

Rich and Tressel - Too much baggage and JT ain't taking the job anyway. Rich would probably take the job, but he's not enough of an upgrade to justify the drama it would create, and his defenses suck.

Pelini - No thanks. The man is unstable mentally, there's a reason he is coaching FCS. This fan base would hate him. If you think he's going to go out and market the program and rub shoulders with donors, you are fooling yourself.

Who have you heard?

The current head coach at Mississippi State wants and is from the northeast. Also, the coach at Temple. Rich has a group very hard at work but think Gee wants no part of this.
 
The current head coach at Mississippi State wants and is from the northeast. Also, the coach at Temple. Rich has a group very hard at work but think Gee wants no part of this.

OK, fine.... hire those guys, but until you have a new coach in place don't work against the one you currently have.
 
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The current head coach at Mississippi State wants and is from the northeast. Also, the coach at Temple. Rich has a group very hard at work but think Gee wants no part of this.

There isn't a chance in hell Dan Mullen is coming to WVU. I'd be happy to have him though. Same with Matt Rhule, he just signed a 6 year extension. When he leaves Temple, he's getting a bigger job than WVU.
 
There isn't a chance in hell Dan Mullen is coming to WVU. I'd be happy to have him though. Same with Matt Rhule, he just signed a 6 year extension. When he leaves Temple, he's getting a bigger job than WVU.

And how do you know? I understand Mullen wants out MSU and the guy at Temple wants to stay local. And what kind of job is bigger then WVU. Penn State. No way Rhule is getting that job! I understood there was mutual interest from both of these coaches in December. The deal is WVU will have the money to hire a head coach with experience. I know it really pains you to see WVU moving on and being in a position to hire someone of quality but its going to happen. Sorry.
 
And how do you know? I understand Mullen wants out MSU and the guy at Temple wants to stay local. And what kind of job is bigger then WVU. Penn State. No way Rhule is getting that job! I understood there was mutual interest from both of these coaches in December. The deal is WVU will have the money to hire a head coach with experience. I know it really pains you to see WVU moving on and being in a position to hire someone of quality but its going to happen. Sorry.

It pains me to see my alma mater completely screw up a coaching situation, which is what has happened with the last 3 head coaches, going back to RR and the Michigan/Alabama fiasco. I don't have much faith in Lyons to make a good hire and based off his actions (or lack thereof) as AD so far, those feelings are justified.

If Mullen wanted to leave Starkville, he would have done so after this season when Prescott graduated, he's not coming to Morgantown.
 
It pains me to see my alma mater completely screw up a coaching situation, which is what has happened with the last 3 head coaches, going back to RR and the Michigan/Alabama fiasco. I don't have much faith in Lyons to make a good hire and based off his actions (or lack thereof) as AD so far, those feelings areturst justified.

If Mullen wanted to leave Starkville, he would have done so after this season when Prescott graduated, he's not coming to Morgantown.
I have been telling you guys for since he came now that Dana was not the guy and our administration also knows. He is DOA and there are many reasons right out in the open that should cause concern by our fans(staff turnover, lack of public involvement, and lack of QB development to name a few). Dana is done! So, if you know that I said from the beginning this guy was not a fit for WVU then trust me when I say we will get a quality guy with head coaching experience.
 
I have been telling you guys for since he came now that Dana was not the guy and our administration also knows. He is DOA and there are many reasons right out in the open that should cause concern by our fans(staff turnover, lack of public involvement, and lack of QB development to name a few). Dana is done! So, if you know that I said from the beginning this guy was not a fit for WVU then trust me when I say we will get a quality guy with head coaching experience.

I'm calling BS. He built a house.
 
I have been telling you guys for since he came now that Dana was not the guy and our administration also knows. He is DOA and there are many reasons right out in the open that should cause concern by our fans(staff turnover, lack of public involvement, and lack of QB development to name a few). Dana is done! So, if you know that I said from the beginning this guy was not a fit for WVU then trust me when I say we will get a quality guy with head coaching experience.


When you say a "quality guy" all you mean is a local boy that can travel the state and yuck it up with the natives.

No offense, but you have made it clear that priority #1 for a head coach should be a "WV guy" so forgive me if i don't take your opinion seriously.
 
And how do you know? I understand Mullen wants out MSU and the guy at Temple wants to stay local. And what kind of job is bigger then WVU. Penn State. No way Rhule is getting that job! I understood there was mutual interest from both of these coaches in December. The deal is WVU will have the money to hire a head coach with experience. I know it really pains you to see WVU moving on and being in a position to hire someone of quality but its going to happen. Sorry.

Rhule went to Penn State and played for Paterno. He's a very easy sell to the PSU base and especially to the cult followers of Paterno. Temple spanked PSU this season and Franklin is already on shaky ground, and too be honest he is just plain unlikeable.

IMO, he will wait to see what future awaits Franklin and if PSU makes a move, Rhule will be at the top of the list - very top.

I don't think he's coming here, and if he did he WOULD leave the moment PSU came calling.
 
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When you say a "quality guy" all you mean is a local boy that can travel the state and yuck it up with the natives.

No offense, but you have made it clear that priority #1 for a head coach should be a "WV guy" so forgive me if i don't take your opinion seriously.

He wants Terry Bowden. For the last year I've been saying the townies would make a push for him, and your gonna start seeing it.

I say collect our pride and bring back RR...maybe Butch Jones will be around.
 
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