Enquirer Editorial: Bring the BIG 12 to UC

[Buckaineer]

Because adding Cincy is going to stop OU or Texas from defecting. Did adding Cincy to the Big Least stop Pitt, Syracuse, UL or WVU from leaving?

OU and Texas aren't trying to leave the BIG 12, so Cincy isn't being brought in to stop them or anyone else from leaving. Schools are being considered for expansion because the BIG 12 conference needs to eliminate disadvantages and improve things like finances so that the BIG 12 will remain at the top competitively and financially so that no one will consider leaving in the future. There won't be any reason to consider it.

If the conference doesn't change anything between now and 2025 while everyone around them continues to be proactive, then there will be problems.

 

[bobhertzel'ssweatpants]

OU and Texas aren't trying to leave the BIG 12, so Cincy isn't being brought in to stop them or anyone else from leaving. Schools are being considered for expansion because the BIG 12 conference needs to eliminate disadvantages and improve things like finances so that the BIG 12 will remain at the top competitively and financially so that no one will consider leaving in the future. There won't be any reason to consider it.

If the conference doesn't change anything between now and 2025 while everyone around them continues to be proactive, then there will be problems.

Are you sure about that? OU is flirting. There is no doubt in my mind about that. The only way to stabilize the Big 12 is to add major programs from a power league. None are available so there are no options to make the league more stable. Adding a program like Cincy is like putting in veneers.

 

[topdecktiger]

There's plenty of evidence to show that UC draws better than 28,000--they drew 58,000 the last time they played Oklahoma in Cincinnati and 48,000 for WVU.

You can't compare a schools attendance vs. low level competition and then surmise that because a school didn't have tremendous attendance vs. some uninteresting competition that they would have the same attendance in a major conference. Cincy already proved they can have better attendance with more attractive opponents when a member of the Big East.

Yes, you can, because if you look at other schools that joined new conferences, their attendance didn't dramatically shoot up either. I already pointed out schools like East Carolina, who play the same competition and get larger crowds.

 

[MikeRafone]

You haven't been working in TV or Radio. I don't believe anyone on message boards who says, "I'm a lawyer, I know 'people on the inside," or what have you.

Louisville brings in more of a market than East Carolina does, which is nothing. The ACC already has 4 North Carolina schools. If you really worked in TV, then you would know a duplicate market is worth nothing.

Here's a comparison of Louisville vs. East Carolina over the last 20 seasons. Louisville is 157-91 (.633). They have five 10-win seasons, 6 conference championships, 2 BCS bowl wins, and a 7-8 bowl record.

East Carolina is 126-116 (.527). They have only one 10-win season, 2 conference championships, no BCS bowls, and a 3-8 bowl record.

But yeah, East Carolina is a MUCH better football program. Sorry to interrupt your story with actual facts.

I haven't? I better call Sinclair and tell 'em to to stop depositing checks in my account. On second thought, I think I'll keep 'em. Don't tell anyone you discovered my secret and won't call the state of SC to have your food stamps cut off.

 

[Rootmaster]

This thread gets funnier by the posting. Some fans seem to be afraid of having a new kid in the neighborhood. Guess being the biggest and "baddest" on the street is disturbing if you have to prove it. Come on Big 12-2=10, give Cincy a call...."come on down!" LOL

 

[bobhertzel'ssweatpants]

This thread gets funnier by the posting. Some fans seem to be afraid of having a new kid in the neighborhood. Guess being the biggest and "baddest" on the street is disturbing if you have to prove it. Come on Big 12-2=10, give Cincy a call...."come on down!" LOL

What the hell are you talking about?? That doesn't even make any sense.

 

[Rootmaster]

Sorry you don't get it.

 

[Mountain Man]

Lived in the Natti for a while too and I still visit to catch Reds and Bengals Games occasionally. Talking to UC alums, most of them could care less about UC athletics in Football. Some are UK fans in hoops and Suckeyes on the gridiron. There are a few die hard Bearcat Fans first, but not too many of them. At the end of the day UC does not provide the national brand or enough people that give a crap.