Democracy Can Plant the Seeds of Its Own Destruction

[moe]

Sad.

Paul Waldman, [URL='https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/10/17/trumps-lie-about-obama-and-fallen-soldiers-shows-how-he-makes-america-dumber/?utm_term=.7ec21a558e58']writing in The Washington Post on Oct, 17, summed up Trump’s approach to veracity and to reality itself:

Trump takes his own particular combination of ignorance, bluster and malice, and sets it off like a nuclear bomb of misinformation. The fallout spreads throughout the country, and no volume of corrections and fact checks can stop it. It wasn’t even part of a thought-out strategy, just a loathsome impulse that found its way out of the president’s mouth to spread far and wide.

Trump’s recklessness is disturbing enough on its own. But what makes it especially threatening is that much of the public — well beyond the 40 percent of the electorate that has shown itself to be unshakable in its devotion to the president — seems to be slowly accommodating itself to its daily dose of the Trump reality show, accepting the rhetorical violence that Trump inflicts on basic standards of truth as the new normal.
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[TarHeelEer]

Sad.

Paul Waldman, writing in The Washington Post on Oct, 17, summed up Trump’s approach to veracity and to reality itself:

Trump takes his own particular combination of ignorance, bluster and malice, and sets it off like a nuclear bomb of misinformation. The fallout spreads throughout the country, and no volume of corrections and fact checks can stop it. It wasn’t even part of a thought-out strategy, just a loathsome impulse that found its way out of the president’s mouth to spread far and wide.

Trump’s recklessness is disturbing enough on its own. But what makes it especially threatening is that much of the public — well beyond the 40 percent of the electorate that has shown itself to be unshakable in its devotion to the president — seems to be slowly accommodating itself to its daily dose of the Trump reality show, accepting the rhetorical violence that Trump inflicts on basic standards of truth as the new normal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

Snowflakes gonna flake.

 

[bamaEER]

Pretty evident Biff thought he would prevail over and eventually control the media. Now he’s just spinning his wheels to pacify his 38%

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Sad.

Paul Waldman, writing in The Washington Post on Oct, 17, summed up Trump’s approach to veracity and to reality itself:

Trump takes his own particular combination of ignorance, bluster and malice, and sets it off like a nuclear bomb of misinformation. The fallout spreads throughout the country, and no volume of corrections and fact checks can stop it. It wasn’t even part of a thought-out strategy, just a loathsome impulse that found its way out of the president’s mouth to spread far and wide.

Trump’s recklessness is disturbing enough on its own. But what makes it especially threatening is that much of the public — well beyond the 40 percent of the electorate that has shown itself to be unshakable in its devotion to the president — seems to be slowly accommodating itself to its daily dose of the Trump reality show, accepting the rhetorical violence that Trump inflicts on basic standards of truth as the new normal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

I have a little higher hopes for our people.

 

[Airport]

I have a little higher hopes for our people.

It was written by someone from the NY times.

 

[moe]

It was written by someone from the NY times.

And? Do you fear the big words or opinion most?

 

[WVUCOOPER]

It was written by someone from the NY times.

Lot of good stuff is and this is a fair point. I'm just a smidge more optimistic that Americans will turn back this silly populism BS and Trump.

 

[Airport]

Lot of good stuff is and this is a fair point. I'm just a smidge more optimistic that Americans will turn back this silly populism BS and Trump.

People are tired of the political correctness and you don't give enough to those who are less fortunate so we have to take more of your money to give to countries that hate us

 

[WVUCOOPER]

People are tired of the political correctness and you don't give enough to those who are less fortunate so we have to take more of your money to give to countries that hate us

Are you hitting your own gas machine? lolwut?

 

[Airport]

Are you hitting your own gas machine? lolwut?

Typing on phone, chubby fingers

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Typing on phone, chubby fingers

I just mean that post seems to have veered off topic from the rest of this thread.

 

[Airport]

Are you hitting your own gas machine? lolwut?

Never have hit my own machine. Pretty pathetic.

 

[Airport]

I just mean that post seems to have veered off topic from the rest of this thread.

I was trying to respond that there's a lot of Americans who are tired of politicians trying to thread a needle with every comment and want us to take care of our own and not some other country.

 

[moe]

want us to take care of our own

but this is something that you don't want to do according to your comments in this forum and you abandoned political correctness a long time ago based on the hate that you spew here. You certainly don't believe in a social safety net in this country.

 

[Airport]

but this is something that you don't want to do according to your comments in this forum and you abandoned political correctness a long time ago based on the hate that you spew here. You certainly don't believe in a social safety net in this country.

You are so blind with hatred, you don't know what I beleive. The safety net has been abused by politicians since it's inception. Too many are on food stamps now. The great society has made black fathers optional, how has that worked out? Before LBJ, marriages in the black family was higher than in white families. Now, both ahve plummeted. Every government program has bad side effects. There are some that do some good, but almost all cause problems. Just making yourself feel good is not really a good policy.

 

[Airport]

but this is something that you don't want to do according to your comments in this forum and you abandoned political correctness a long time ago based on the hate that you spew here. You certainly don't believe in a social safety net in this country.

Political correctness is for pussies.Be a man or woman, and call it what it is.

 

[moe]

You are so blind with hatred, you don't know what I beleive.

Just going with what you post but maybe that's not fair.

 

[moe]

Political correctness is for pussies.Be a man or woman, and call it what it is.

I agree, if you hate blacks and poor people, you should just say so.....and you do. Thanks for your honesty.

 

[Airport]

Just going with what you post but maybe that's not fair.

Sometimes I like to stir the pot. If I had been mayor of Charlottesville, that shit would never have happened. I don't like white nationalist, I don't like antifa either. I would have used tear gas to keep them apart. Like I said, I'm tired of all this lame ass politicans who are afraid to do anything.

 

[Airport]

I agree, if you hate blacks and poor people, you should just say so.....and you do. Thanks for your honesty.

Again, just because I call out your love for policies that have destroyed black families and created more poor and less wealth doesn't mean I hate them. I do more free stuff for the poor than you will ever do.

 

[Airport]

Just going with what you post but maybe that's not fair.

I live in Va and I can't stand to see people flying the confederate flag. You lost, get over it. IT's been 150 years.

 

[moe]

Again, just because I call out your love for policies that have destroyed black families and created more poor and less wealth doesn't mean I hate them. I do more free stuff for the poor than you will ever do.

So you're a shithouse sociologist too, your expertise knows no bounds. Maybe all that work for the poor will ease your guilty conscience.

 

[moe]

I live in Va and I can't stand to see people flying the confederate flag. You lost, get over it. IT's been 150 years.

Sorry you've confused me w/Shrubby or someone, no rebel here.

 

[Airport]

So you're a shithouse sociologist too, your expertise knows no bounds. Maybe all that work for the poor will ease your guilty conscience.

I pay more in taxes than you probably make. I have no guilty conscience. I speak of facts which is something you cannot hide. Tell me if there are as many black dual head's of households, % wise, now as there was before LBJ started his Great Society? That crap of free stuff never works. People, white or black, will take the easy way most of the time.

 

[Airport]

Sorry you've confused me w/Shrubby or someone, no rebel here.

I know you aren't a rebel but you seem to want to sterotype me as a confederate flag waving KKK member. I'm not.

 

[Airport]

Sorry you've confused me w/Shrubby or someone, no rebel here.

I was using you as in "The south". Not you literally. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

Snowflakes gonna flake.

somebody call the WAAAAHHHMbulance

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

It was written by someone from the NY times.

say no more

 

[moe]

I pay more in taxes than you probably make. I have no guilty conscience. I speak of facts which is something you cannot hide. Tell me if there are as many black dual head's of households, % wise, now as there was before LBJ started his Great Society? That crap of free stuff never works. People, white or black, will take the easy way most of the time.

I love how you lump all government assistance programs into one group called "free stuff". Should we get rid of all "free stuff"? Since you have all the answers for how black families need to raise themselves up, why don't you share your knowledge with your elected representatives? Actually that way that you discuss "free stuff" tells me that you know next to nothing about the government programs that you criticize.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

I agree, if you hate blacks and poor people, you should just say so.....and you do. Thanks for your honesty.

obama did more to hurt blacks and poor people than any politician that I can recall in 50 years

 

[WVUCOOPER]

I was trying to respond that there's a lot of Americans who are tired of politicians trying to thread a needle with every comment and want us to take care of our own and not some other country.

I'd argue there is a w i d e gap between political correctness and Trump

 

[moe]

I know you aren't a rebel but you seem to want to sterotype me as a confederate flag waving KKK member. I'm not.

I've seen your posts and you don't like black people so describe you views on them in any politically correct way that you like.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

I've seen your posts and you don't like black people so describe you views on them in any politically correct way that you like.

I've seen YOUR posts and you don't like anyone who is conservative no matter what their skin color......so what in the hell makes you any better than what you accuse us of being?....typical obama worshipping liberal bullshit......we won....you lost....get over uit

 

[countryroads89]

obama did more to hurt blacks and poor people than any politician that I can recall in 50 years

Congrats.

Really dumb post, hard to top.

 

[Snow Sled Baby]

Congrats.

Really dumb post, hard to top.

obama.......Really dumb "president"...and that will NEVER be topped......except for the peanut farmer the worst in my voting lifetime....and the statistics bear it out...and again I say....we won....you lost.... get over it

 

[Mntneer]

I'd argue there is a w i d e gap between political correctness and Trump

 

[Airport]

Congrats.

Really dumb post, hard to top.

LBJ did more harm.

 

[Airport]

I love how you lump all government assistance programs into one group called "free stuff". Should we get rid of all "free stuff"? Since you have all the answers for how black families need to raise themselves up, why don't you share your knowledge with your elected representatives? Actually that way that you discuss "free stuff" tells me that you know next to nothing about the government programs that you criticize.

I lump them because every time you think you are doing something good, somebody abuses the program and makes it something to benefit a segment to get their vote. All one has to do is look up the facts, something that you know how to do, and see that since LBJ's attempt to get votes with the great society, what I said is true. The black family has been decimated, the white is headed that way too. At least admit that that has been an unintended side effect.

 

[Airport]

I've seen your posts and you don't like black people so describe you views on them in any politically correct way that you like.

The people who really hate is people like yourself, whom seem to think that an individual can't make it on his own. Here, let government do it for you, it will be better and you can sit back and enjoy.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Fake news. YUUUUUGE