Please fire Holgy NOW!!!!!! I am tired of stupid play calling, dumb special teams mistakes, and constant turnovers.
Dear AD Lyons
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You mean you didn't like the OT play calling? I mean, really? Who wouldn't have loved those calls?
As I said last week, Coach DuH does not have Ollie watching his back. Lyons will pull the trigger sooner or later.
Coming in from Bama, I am sure he's evaluating Dana closely. My guess is IF Lyons either fires Dana this year or next (if we have a repeat season record) he might look at an SEC coach.
But that's just a guess... who knows really what Lyons might do.
No, but I imagine that big bucks and alumni have been keeping his email and voicemail full.
nothing will happen until the year is over so no use worrying about it...just lower expectations to the appropriate level and enjoy our 2 or 3 more wins, makes us bowl eligible
If we wait until the end of the year, the excuse will be "hiring a new coach will kill our recruiting". If he drops four in a row, this year, he should be gone.
I don't think we need to fire Dana.....that is just stupid, but he definitely needs to find a division one QB because Howard is not the answer. We need to burn one of those red shirts and start the future. There was a reason Howard was not recruited by another division one school and now we are seeing that.
Lyons thinks he sure could use a couple more cans of that potted meat ..................................providing the WV administrators have them to spare.
Lol, you think we are going to pluck an SEC coach? Get a clue we are looking at a MAC or CUSA coach being hired.
WV can pluck an SEC coach or any coach there is to be had. All you have to do is throw money at him. I am so over expecting WV to win in the Big 12. They might beat the likes of Kansas and a couple of bottom feeders. Texas, Oklahoma, OK State, Baylor, Texas Tech, etc. can throw money the likes of WV can only imagine. One of these days the WV fan base will figure this out. You don't like what I am telling you. Right? Then tell me I'm wrong about the money grab that's going on across the country.
The self proclaimed genius has been looking for five years now. All we get is a bunch of hype about how the guy he is recruiting this year is "the guy" that will turn things around. Crest is horrid from the small sample I've seen of him. Howard isn't much better. And if experience is any indicator Chugs and sills have major flaws in their games as well. If they don't Dana is an idiot for letting them sit while we watch the fumble and interceptions fall like rain.
The self proclaimed genius has been looking for five years now. All we get is a bunch of hype about how the guy he is recruiting this year is "the guy" that will turn things around. Crest is horrid from the small sample I've seen of him. Howard isn't much better. And if experience is any indicator Chugs and sills have major flaws in their games as well. If they don't Dana is an idiot for letting them sit while we watch the fumble and interceptions fall like rain.
The fact you think we can't is what is wrong with the expectations of WVU fans that seem to be okay with status quo.
I hate myself for agreeing on anything with someone who has even a smidgen of Hokie blood in them but you are correct here. Dana should not be showing up for work tomorrow. Losing is losing. OSU is a bottom half Big12 team, it does not matter who we have in there now. Only Iowa State and Kansas are reasonable wins. Does it matter who is the coach? We can begin looking now and let this train wreck come to a close.
I do think Dana is a good coach, just not a good coach for WVU. Some coaches just don't fit even if they are good at what they do. We need to move past him and waste no time in doing so.
Why couldn't we? He's an assistant. If we are looking at a current HC, then yes, it would be a MAC/CUSA level hire. But if we hired an assistant I see no reason why we couldn't get a good SEC coach.
If there was a change I'd like to see someone with head coaching experience. I'd be fine with a MAC level coach. Florida just hired from CSU, there are plenty of good coaches waiting for an opportunity.
I'd like to return to the spread option attack. Perhaps not RR but I did like that system. We can find QB's to run it as it's an athletic position. I didn't think we'd struggle to find a QB to run DH's offense, but we certainly have.
LOL - It's a Top 20 team right now and in the middle of their best runs in program history.
WVU has "big bucks"? We don't have Texas oil billionaries or T.Boone Pickens, you know.
Email and voicemail won't do it.
WVU lost to a top 25 team in overtime, intercepted Oklahoma State 3 times, overcame a 15-point deficit, and we want to scuttle the whole football program? Geez, guys, you must have kicked your dog a lot on Saturday.
M ighty defense throttled Georgia Southern, 44-0
O utstanding defense obliterated Liberty, 41-17
U nilaterally decimated Maryland, 45-6, on defense and offense
N oxious offense & special teams against Oklahoma, 44-24
T oo many costly mistakes against Oklahoma State in OT, 33-26. Impressive comeback from 15-point deficit.
A mbush Baylor
I mmolate TCU
N ail Texas Tech
E rectile dysfunction Texas
E viscerate Kansas
R ip open a new one for Iowa State
S kewer Kansas State
I supported Stewart's termination. I felt that a new coach would make our team better and Dana did do that. He won the conference, and the Orange Bowl. It wasn't night and day but our team got better when Dana showed up that first year. I'm not so confident this time. I'm worried a coaching change would make things worse. Luck was pretty clear that he valued a coach with a strong offensive system, I have no clue what Lyons feels.
Y'all will change your mind if we beat either or both Baylor and TCU. I don't getting rid of Coach Holgs is the answer right now. If we don't have those fumbles, then I think we win by fourteen points or more. Just my two cents of course. Keep the faith y'all. Look at this way we could be the Twerps right now.
-Crew
Loss is loss...no moral victories. Tool little execution with too much talent. All comes back to coaching...
If it was just one game, no one would be talking about this issue. but this is every game of any significance we try to win. Sure, we upset TCU last year, but that was more about them than it was us. We were their WTF game, nothing to do with us. Under Stewart and Dana we never won because we were good, we won because we got lucky on the right night against the right team. A good team wins those games and 90% of all of the others, we don't and we should.
I expect the Mountaineers to win 90% of the time. I expect that. We are not some mid-major program like Pitt and right now, Pitt is out performing us.
No. Lyons doesnt feel obligated to say everything he thinks every time there is a mic in his face.
I still believe you guys are using the wrong formula. Using the same offense that virtually all the top Big 12 schools use makes little sense when you can't recruit the same level of talent. You all would better off going back to the Rich Rod offense or a pro style offense. Then preparing for WVU would be much more difficult. It would also give you your own identity in the league which is sorely missing.
So tell me this, shouldn't our AD expect a coach in his 5th season to beat at least one of the top 4 teams in the conference? Is it to much to ask that he finds a way to beat either OU, Baylor, TCU, or a very beatable OSU? Otherwise, we are playing for the best of the bottom of the conference every season.
Guys getting a new coach and a system will be worse than sticking this out. I agree losing sucks but things happen sometimes, maybe this season on Offense is rebuilding or may be it is the players not the coach needs to be replaced. I feel sometimes as fans we think everything falls on the coach, well change that thinking. The coach made the right calls players do it preform well this is a team the loss last night is the whole teams fault not just the coach.
People always want to fire the coach. We lost a game we could have won. We played a terrible half and then came back and lost in overtime. It sucked but who fires a coach for being competitive?
"Loss is a loss." Nope. Losing to Oklahoma State in overtime would be nothing like losing to Maryland, Liberty or Georgia Southern.
Am I disappointed? Of course. Miscues harmed WVU at critical times.
But I'm not discounting coming from 15 points behind at halftime to send the game into overtime. A defense that interecepted three Cowboys passes. A defense that tackled the OState QB for a safety.
EVERY team makes mistakes every game. But this team fought back from the deficit. That's not easy when you're playing a top 20 team. Give them credit for that.
A loss to Baylor and TCU would not be equivalent to a loss to Kansas or Iowa State or Maryland.
M ighty defense throttled Georgia Southern, 44-0
O utstanding defense obliterated Liberty, 41-17
U nilaterally decimated Maryland, 45-6, on defense and offense
N oxious offense & special teams against Oklahoma, 44-24
T oo many costly mistakes against Oklahoma State in OT, 33-26. Impressive comeback from 15-point deficit.
A mbush Baylor
I mmolate TCU
N ail Texas Tech
E rectile dysfunction Texas
E viscerate Kansas
R ip open a new one for Iowa State
S kewer Kansas State
"Losing to Oklahoma State in overtime would be nothing like losing to Maryland, Liberty or Georgia Southern"...well of course not. With that said, beating Maryland, Liberty and Georgia Southern would be nothing like beating a quality Big 12 opponent. In other words, to this point in the season, Holgorsen has accomplished nothing. If we lose our next two games his seat will be and should be very hot.
His postgame comments were very telling. He said we are not ready to win Big 12 games. Well, he is in his 5th season and it is his responsibility to get us ready to win conference games. We can hire any coach to win against Maryland, Liberty, Georgia State, Kansas, and Iowa State.
His postgame comments were very telling. He said we are not ready to win Big 12 games. Well, he is in his 5th season and it is his responsibility to get us ready to win conference games. We can hire any coach to win against Maryland, Liberty, Georgia State, Kansas, and Iowa State.
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