JC,
How are you these days? Where have you been my bubba? You’re absolutely correct that I’m happy that BFW shared his experience and that he’s alright. We’re all created equal no matter what your ethnicity is.
-Crew
Bryce FW
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JC,
How are you these days? Where have you been my bubba? You’re absolutely correct that I’m happy that BFW shared his experience and that he’s alright. We’re all created equal no matter what your ethnicity is.
-Crew
Then he should have said there was an APB that matched the make and model of your car.
EVERYONE faces different challenges. There's been way too many successful black men and women to say that they don't have a chance. You and I face different challenges. Lebron and Kevin Hart face different challenges. Obama and 50 cent do as well. Let's stop making victims out of an entire race of people and lets help them out for real. Let's teach them how to handle racist assholes and not get shot. I'm sick of the narrative that everything is racist. It's not helping the black population but only the left politicians.
I think the problem is we conservatives too often don't take the profiling seriously. If you have any libertarian views at out you should be outraged by this.
Yea right, cops pull over strangers all the time just for the fun of maybe getting themselves shot by a lunatic criminal. They obviously want to put themselves in harms way for absolutely no reason.
What would have made them suspicious that BFW might have drugs?
Amen.
Way back when, the city police in Hurricane used to patrol I-64 and give out tickets once a month, seemingly trying to fill a quota. You could set your calendar to it. Now Milton seems to have taken on that idea, tho with the road construction near B'ville, it seems a little more appropriate.
I used to get stopped all the time. I also used to have expired stickers, rolled thru stop signs, sped thru speed traps, not to mention more than my fair share of fender benders. Seriously, at one time they wouldn't even insure me to drive a company vehicle.
Fast forward, I haven't had a run in with a uniformed officer in probably 10-15 years, mainly because I don't do any of the stuff I used to do... Oh, and because every time I end up with a patrol car behind me, I pull off the next street or exit, even if I'm not going that direction.
But you want WVU to have a top football program, right? Because those two things don't really go hand-in-hand... better be willing to play the game if you want to get the best recruits possible
I think it is ridiculous something like this happened to anyone, black or white. I also think at the end of the day that aside from the inconvenience on his travels it wasn't a huge deal. From his version of the story, at no time did it seem like his life or the life of the officer was in danger. In fact, I applaud Bryce for doing everything he is supposed to do in a routine traffic stop, which is whatever the officer asks. Whether you perceive it to be a ridiculous request or not, at the end of the day, you don't escalate things for the sake of escalation. You do what you're told and good things tend to happen.
So, good job Bryce. You did the right thing. I don't believe this was a huge racial injustice, and the only reason he could have ever felt his life would have been in jeopardy is due to how the very few, and I do mean very few, of the tragic cases have been handled over the past few years in the media circus. That's not to discount his feelings either, he's been as manipulated as everyone else by the agenda. We all have in one way or the other. It's all about eliciting a response, regardless of what that actual response is. If they can get you fully invested in either side, you'll keep clicking.
Talk to me about the "prick tugging" .... peaked my curiousity in the midst of these racist undertone statements.
Hey Crew. I am doing well; living in Memphis, TN. You're right we all are created equal but doesn't mean we all are treated the same or share the same experiences. I appreciate and respect everyone's perspective whether I agree or not.
Seriously ?? You are going to try to have a discussion with one of the more open racists on this forum....
"Good Luck" ~ Morgan Freeman animated gif
Profiling does occur, but not necessarily because of race.
Being a male - check.
Being a young male - double check.
Having an out of state license - check.
Driving on a known drug trafficking route - check.
Being alone - check.
I imagine if that same criteria were used, a decent percentage of vehicles driving into WV along I-77 from Columbus/Akron/Canton/Detroit would be flagged.
My son was once pulled over on some bogus infraction and was asked if he would give them permission to search the car. He agreed and luckily didn't have some remnant of pot in there. Given a warning.
Once I was in my son-in-laws vehicle in Colorado years back, when the cop pulled us over for speeding five miles over in a 40 mph zone. He sat in his vehicle with the lights on for what seemed an eternity before slowly walking up to the car. I think he thought we had drugs in the car or something. Asked us what were we doing (sight-seeing) and why were we in Colorado. Honestly, we sat there for at least half-an-hour before we got the ticket and could leave. It was somewhat unnerving, as I don't think we appeared to fit the criteria for appearing suspicious. The guy acted like he thought we were going to pull out guns or something. Also, we both had our wives in the car, which seemed like we were the obvious tourists cruising around.
My daughter has gotten out of several tickets just because she is attractive, and she was way over the speed limits.
Not blaming the cops on these things, but it does make you feel like a criminal when you seem "targeted."
Being a male - check.
Being a young male - double check.
Having an out of state license - check.
Driving on a known drug trafficking route - check.
Being alone - check.
I imagine if that same criteria were used, a decent percentage of vehicles driving into WV along I-77 from Columbus/Akron/Canton/Detroit would be flagged.
My son was once pulled over on some bogus infraction and was asked if he would give them permission to search the car. He agreed and luckily didn't have some remnant of pot in there. Given a warning.
Once I was in my son-in-laws vehicle in Colorado years back, when the cop pulled us over for speeding five miles over in a 40 mph zone. He sat in his vehicle with the lights on for what seemed an eternity before slowly walking up to the car. I think he thought we had drugs in the car or something. Asked us what were we doing (sight-seeing) and why were we in Colorado. Honestly, we sat there for at least half-an-hour before we got the ticket and could leave. It was somewhat unnerving, as I don't think we appeared to fit the criteria for appearing suspicious. The guy acted like he thought we were going to pull out guns or something. Also, we both had our wives in the car, which seemed like we were the obvious tourists cruising around.
My daughter has gotten out of several tickets just because she is attractive, and she was way over the speed limits.
Not blaming the cops on these things, but it does make you feel like a criminal when you seem "targeted."
I have for speeding. I was on my way to spring break with my girlfriend in the car. Heard a spiel from the cop, in front of my girl friend, that I don't come to their state speeding, I could go to jail, I better show up for the court date, blah blah blah. I was nothing but respectful to the cop too. After he let me go back to my car, with a nice ticket, I drove away with only hurt pride.
It is odd how many conservatives act like they care about rights and liberties but are more than willing to quiet and even supportive when those rights are being violated by the police.
Then you, of all people, know there are good and bad cops. Not as much to do with race that so many people want us to believe tho. Mostly has to do with power. Some cops just really want to get their gun on....
Is profiling racist? The FBI profiles all the time, white, black, hispanic, etc. I don't understand the problem with profiling. If we have a serial killer, I think it is extremely smart for the police to have a profile of the killer which might help save a life (White are the most likely race to commit these types of crimes). Likewise, I think it wise for police to have a profile of drug mules to stop delivery of dangerous drugs. Preventing a crime is much better than arresting someone after the crime has been committed because it may save lives or at least stop harm. I realize this may be an unpopular view, but I support profiling as a preventative means as long as officers do not abuse those people being investigated. If Chicago did what NYC did years ago, how many lives would have been saved?
Just to clarify, which one of his rights and liberties were violated?
So you think its OK for the police to randomly pull over white males to investigate if they might be a serial killer? There are more violations of constitutional rights by law enforcement in the name of "crime preventions" than any other excuse.
I got a ticket for going 15 over in 2012 on I-95 north of Philly. I hired an attorney to plead it down and went to my court appearance (the cop told me to do this). My attorney talked to the police officer for 30 seconds and told me they would accept a plea of guilty of <10 over. I went up and pleaded and was ready to leave when the attorney told me to stay to watch a couple more pleadings. Four black motorcycle riders were a couple of minutes later. They were charged for reckless >90 and weaving in and out of traffic. He said the officer actually approached them right before he talked with them and told them he would let them plead down to <10 over. They refused.
They stood up there pleaded not guilty. The judge prompted them by saying he was willing to let them plead to a lesser charge of going <10 under. They refused. The officer then gets involved and gives testimony. They had video and eye witness accounts of them weaving in and out traffic going over 90 MPH. It took them over 10 miles to get them to stop. The riders then said they were only pulled over because they were black. The judge asked them how the police knew they were black as they all had on leathers and helmets and gloves....needless to say, the judge offered a reduced charge one more time and they repeated that the officer (the same officer who pulled me over) was indeed a racist...the judge looked at them and said..."this might be the dumbest thing I have seen in my court in a long time". He then pulled their licenses and set a court date...they went nuts yelling at the judge and they were escorted out...My lawyer was laughing...but mostly at me for paying $400 for something I could have done by myself.
I never said I wasn't pulled over for no reason. I was speeding.
Haha I don't know the guy, I just notice he gets blasted constantly in everything he seems to post
What rights are being violated? It is not illegal for an officer to pull over someone for an offense, even a minor offense. Based on what I read from FW's account, no ones rights were violated. Inconvenienced yes, violated no. Broken window policing which greatly reduced crime and saved lives is not violating anyone's rights. Criminal profiling is not illegal, racial profiling is.
Many, many years ago, my brother-in-law had a very good friend that was pulled over on I 95. He was not speeding and in fact the officers never informed him as to why he was pulled over. His attorney found out that he was pulled over based on the route he took, his age and the type of car he was driving and they used the fact that he failed to use his turn signal when changing lanes to justify pulling him over. After the search of his car they found that he was transporting drugs from Florida to DC. He spent time in prison. He was white. That is criminal profiling and is not illegal. Below is a description of criminal profiling that is perfectly legal:
Another factor of criminal profiling is recognizing that crime has demographics. Officers are trained and experienced in the areas they serve to notice certain factors that are present in most of the crimes, suspects and areas they patrol and investigate.
You have to differentiate racial profiling from criminal profiling. One is illegal and one is legal. And yes, using criminal profiling to try and prevent crime is something I support.
Yeah, White people never get profiled tho. Never ever.
I have a indian cousin tho, he cannot drive five milles down the road before he gets pulled over. Its gotten so bad that he has to leave the house an hour early for every trip to allow for the getting pulled over time. F'ing pigs.
Not that I recall, though my privileged ass was pretty pissed they wouldn’t bump it down and give me a warning...
just saw you absolutely apologizing to BFW under this tweet "im sorry this happened to you brother" which is it? You sorry something happened, is he your brother, or is he one of these kids just looking for a reason. If you think the latter, why say youre genuinely sorry in your tweet to him?
No. Such an insensitive remark. Walk a mile in their shoes and see how you would feel.
