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This is chess. Not checkers. Which conference is stronger when Clemson, FSU leave? Which conference do you think VT and Pitt will prefer? The B12 is waiting for the ACC to implode. And it will. The B10 and SEC are also waiting and they want UVA and UNC. Be patientGoal was coast to coast. Didn't happen. Big 12 is regional. ACC and BigWhatever are national.
True enough...but can't call it coast to coast either.I don’t know if I would call a conference that covers 4/5 of the of the contiguous United States “regional”.
We can confirm and call you a twat though.True enough...but can't call it coast to coast either.
ACC is hanging as FSU and Clemson still don't like it.Goal was coast to coast. Didn't happen. Big 12 is regional. ACC and BigWhatever are national.
Neither does UNC. All 3 will be leaving as soon as they can.ACC is hanging as FSU and Clemson still don't like it.
ACC commissioner and ESPN know it's coming soon.Neither does UNC. All 3 will be leaving as soon as they can.
They won't take it.We should give California back to Mexico
Barring a really major earthquake, not quite coast to coast. I think we’re better off without Stanford and Cal anyway.Hey look...tootie is upset about something...what the hell do you call from Arizona to Florida dumbass?
"Not quite"...sounds like the mission statement for WVU sports now days.Barring a really major earthquake, not quite coast to coast. I think we’re better off without Stanford and Cal anyway.
Not true. Bowlsby engineered the survivor four to the conference...Cinncinati, Houston, UCF and BYU. He also held the eight existing members together. Set the table for overrated Yormark.Yormark far better than previous commissioner Bob Bowlsby who would rather promote G5 schools than attack another P5 conference on the ropes. If Bowlsby was still at the helm then Big 12 would be the dead one already instead of the PAC.
Where would WVU be then? The MAC?
Yormark came in and got the TV contract set for 5 more years. Bowlsby was just sitting around playing with himself waiting for contract expiration date. Big 12 would not be here if not for the aggressive renewal by Yormark.Not true. Bowlsby engineered the survivor four to the conference...Cinncinati, Houston, UCF and BYU. He also held the eight existing members together. Set the table for overrated Yormark.
Good grief you are so clueless. You do write good fiction however. ForYormark came in and got the TV contract set for 5 more years. Bowlsby was just sitting around playing with himself waiting for contract expiration date. Big 12 would not be here if not for the aggressive renewal by Yormark.
If not for contract renewal WVU would be in a conference without TTU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, ISU, TCU and Baylor and BYU. WVU would have gone to AAC.
You can hate Yormark all you want I don't really care. I know you are full of shit and just trying to stir pot.
Thanks for proving my point. Keep your spoon spinning troll.Good grief you are so clueless. You do write good fiction however. For
knowledgeable fans who want facts you are just a funny little side dish.
Noise...from the former Caped one lol.Thanks for proving my point. Keep your spoon spinning troll.
And Luck got Stanford and Cal into the ACC. For all those in WV who consistently trash Oliver Luck for being a stooge, the truth is we should be grateful. He saved WVU. He got us into the B12. His status in major college athletics can not be Under appreciated. The man has the contacts and is a major player.It was Luck, hired as a consultant, that lined up Cinn, Central FL, BYU, and Houston as additions.
It was BY that cut the line and got a new TV contract, and saved the conference.
Bowlsby? Other than collecting big paychecks and giving an occasional lame speech, what exactly was his affiliation with the Big 12? He was caught flat footed by Texas and Oklahoma leaving the conference. He was another GK at best.
Personally, I am glad those two woke, commie schools (Standford and Cal) are not part of the Big 12. I would be OK, with adding OSU and WSU, if they had more media value and were closer geographically.
Lol..oh where to start young fellow. Bowlsby did engineer and facilitate the additions. Bowlsby had the initial discussions with media once Txs and Okie ran. Yormark followed through. BTW...it's Stanford NOT Standford lol.It was Luck, hired as a consultant, that lined up Cinn, Central FL, BYU, and Houston as additions.
It was BY that cut the line and got a new TV contract, and saved the conference.
Bowlsby? Other than collecting big paychecks and giving an occasional lame speech, what exactly was his affiliation with the Big 12? He was caught flat footed by Texas and Oklahoma leaving the conference. He was another GK at best.
Personally, I am glad those two woke, commie schools (Standford and Cal) are not part of the Big 12. I would be OK, with adding OSU and WSU, if they had more media value and were closer geographically.
Deny truth as you like. And, I could careless about the typo.Lol..oh where to start young fellow. Bowlsby did engineer and facilitate the additions. Bowlsby had the initial discussions with media once Txs and Okie ran. Yormark followed through. BTW...it's Stanford NOT Standford lol.
You mean "care less." Two words. Btw...what does Vernon have to do with your "careless" spelling?Deny truth as you like. And, I could careless about the typo.
I have been here since Vernon started this board. Ask him if you like. There used to be a lot of good posters here, but nearly all left and went to the Blue lot when Vernon started it.
UVA is coveted like UNC. SEC will likely grab them both to increase their footprint and complete the old south. They will also likely grab FSU and Clemson to make 20. Just like the Big10. At that point, you have to imagine the B12 will go after 4 more and will likely choose between Louisville, Miami, VT, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, NC State, GTWell the ACC existence benefits Notre Dame. They can have their cake and eat it too. Even if FSU goes to the B1G, which is rumored to have been discussed, along with North Carolina. Clemson goes to the SEC, which seems to be the spot for them. The ACC can survive with Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and NC State..They can copy what the Big 12 did, invite Memphis, San Diego State, USF to fill those vacated spots.
Heck they could even invite Washington State and Oregon State, since geography means nothing.
When you get your ass handed too...all you can do is point out typos....you really are a piece of shit.You mean "care less." Two words. Btw...what does Vernon have to do with your "careless" spelling?
Yeah, but the three who seem committed to leaving are the the three who voted no on expansion. The Big 10 is gonna want to expand it's footprint. Invade the South so to speak. FSU has improved it's academic standing the last decade, just missing AAU status this past go around. Ironically enough they lost out to USF. The Big 10 could grab Miami if it wanted a big market with academic prestige, but Miami is a private institution. FSU is a big public land grant University, with great football history. FSU also turned down the SEC numerous times, and there are still bitter feelings from both sides.UVA is coveted like UNC. SEC will likely grab them both to increase their footprint and complete the old south. They will also likely grab FSU and Clemson to make 20. Just like the Big10. At that point, you have to imagine the B12 will go after 4 more and will likely choose between Louisville, Miami, VT, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, NC State, GT