WVU ranked #14. As Donald Trump would say, the system is rigged
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We have no path to the final 4. 3 loss usc is now ahead of wvu, along with 6, 2 loss teams. putting Wisconsin and darling PSU so high assures the B1G 2 bids along with Bama and Clemson or UL.
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Apparently a major shift has taken place, in that, it seemed forever an early loss could be overcome and of little consequence, if a team went on a roll the rest of the season. Now an early loss seems to hurt more than a late season loss which this year doesn't even seem to count as a loss.
Well, it’s obvious that the College Football Playoff Committee has NO respect for WVU.
There are SIX 2-loss teams ranked ahead of #14 WVU. OK, #11 Oklahoma State won by 17 in a head to head matchup and #9 Oklahoma is living off its reputation. But #14?
I think some of the disrespect comes from the erratic WVU offense and the teams we have beaten so far. The Mountaineers have not beaten ANY team in the CFPC’s top 25.
That’s where Saturday night’s Oklahoma game in Mountaineer Field takes on added importance. A WVU victory, particularly if by more than a TD margin, might change some minds. Plus, since only ONE 3-loss team is ranked about WVU, the 2-loss teams might drop below the Mountaineers if they suffer a 3rd loss.
I can only hope.
But winning out surely will at least give WVU a New Year’s Day bowl 6-pack assignment.
We can only hope.
So, does that mean this will NOT be the 3rd time in Mountaineer Field history that two top 10 teams met? Or do we go with the #9 and #10 of the coaches and writers so we can make that claim?
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16
T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17
A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10
I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37
N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21
E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
There are SIX 2-loss teams ranked ahead of #14 WVU. OK, #11 Oklahoma State won by 17 in a head to head matchup and #9 Oklahoma is living off its reputation. But #14?
I think some of the disrespect comes from the erratic WVU offense and the teams we have beaten so far. The Mountaineers have not beaten ANY team in the CFPC’s top 25.
That’s where Saturday night’s Oklahoma game in Mountaineer Field takes on added importance. A WVU victory, particularly if by more than a TD margin, might change some minds. Plus, since only ONE 3-loss team is ranked about WVU, the 2-loss teams might drop below the Mountaineers if they suffer a 3rd loss.
I can only hope.
But winning out surely will at least give WVU a New Year’s Day bowl 6-pack assignment.
We can only hope.
So, does that mean this will NOT be the 3rd time in Mountaineer Field history that two top 10 teams met? Or do we go with the #9 and #10 of the coaches and writers so we can make that claim?
- Alabama 10-0
- Ohio State 9-1
- Michigan 9-1
- Clemson 9-1
- Louisville 9-1
- Washington 9-1
- Wisconsin 8-2
- Penn State 8-2
- Oklahoma 8-2
- Colorado 8-2
- Oklahoma State 8-2
- Utah 8-2
- Southern Cal 7-3
- West Virginia 8-1
- Auburn 7-3
- LSU 6-3
- Florida State 7-3
- Nebraska 8-2
- Tennessee 7-3
- Boise State 9-1
- Western Michigan 10-0
- Washington State 8-2
- Florida 7-2
- Stanford 7-3
- Texas A&M 7-3
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16
T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17
A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10
I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37
N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21
E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
They're not going to allow the Big 12 in the top 4 unless it's Oklahoma and unless some top 8 teams lose.
I find it funny that our win against Texas was laughed at by many......and we were rewarded by moving up 2 spots.
Michigan and Clemson LOSE to UNRANKED teams and their punishment was........to remain in the top 4......
How is this system better?
Michigan and Clemson LOSE to UNRANKED teams and their punishment was........to remain in the top 4......
How is this system better?
Completely rigged- obviously they'll only allow UT or OU in from the BIG 12.
The psychological disadvantage the conference faces is absurd. 2 and n3 loss teams ahead of WVU based on phony rankings of their opponents is total bs
The psychological disadvantage the conference faces is absurd. 2 and n3 loss teams ahead of WVU based on phony rankings of their opponents is total bs
and the loss was at #11 Oklahoma State. It's not like WVU lost to a team from outside the Top 25. It was to Oklahoma State in Stillwater
Only with other losses inside the top 10. A 3 loss Oklahoma team will no longer be considered a great win unfortunately. So jumping 6 to 8 spots solely on a win over Oklahoma is a huge reach or blind hope.
How does Clemson lose and jump 2 spots to #4? How does Michigan lose and stay at #3?
This CFP is 10 times worse than BCS.
This CFP is 10 times worse than BCS.
Bingo! Maybe even higher. The disrespect is aimed toward WVU's offense and the teams the Mountaineers have beaten so far. Those 17 points from WVU turning the ball over cost WVU dearly in the rankings.
The offense did everything it could, unintentionally, to let Texas win in the final 20 minutes but Tony's incredible marauders wouldn't allow it. Without the defense's performance, WVU easily could be 4-5. Remember what happened with the great Geno-Tavon-Stedman combination but a terrible defense for a 7-6 season? That's what would have happened, and worse, with the way the offense has been playing lately.
So it's up to the offense to get its head out of its butt and do its share against Oklahoma and Baylor. The defense will show up, as it does for every game. Thank goodness WVU has Tony as DC.
M anhandled Missouri, 26-11
O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21
U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32
N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16
T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17
A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10
I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37
N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21
E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20
E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma
R oll over Iowa State
S uffocate Baylor
My only complaint is.
Why doesn't WVU deserve to be #7?
Would it really be that crazy for WVU to be the lowest ranked 1 loss P5 team?
Why do Wisconsin, Penn State, Oklahoma, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Utah deserve to be ahead of WVU?
And don't tell me Oklahoma State beat WVU. Ohio State lost to Penn State.
And USC with 3 losses ahead of WVU shows the whole thing is a fkn joke
Why doesn't WVU deserve to be #7?
Would it really be that crazy for WVU to be the lowest ranked 1 loss P5 team?
Why do Wisconsin, Penn State, Oklahoma, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Utah deserve to be ahead of WVU?
And don't tell me Oklahoma State beat WVU. Ohio State lost to Penn State.
And USC with 3 losses ahead of WVU shows the whole thing is a fkn joke
Thank Oklahoma for cementing the Big 12 narrative this year. It's where everyone wants to go and the Sooners handed it to them by losing to what has proven to be a mediocre team and getting throttled by another. From that point it was lost. Not sure an undefeated team could have overcome it outside of Texas. Maybe.
I blame all of this on that damn Dr. Pepper stadium vendor who invented the CFP.
It's a travesty. There's absolutely no way in the world a 3 loss team should be ahead of WVU. Further the resume of the 2 loss teams... the committee has arbrarily used criteria which is based on bias. SOS is subjective. Even so, our SOS is better than at least half of those teams in front of us. To only look at wins and discount losses is simply a way for them to get the teams they want into the CFP. How can you discount losses? Colorado Ahead of WVU is ridiculous
Lol at everyone freaking out. If we beat OU, where we are ranked becomes relevant. As of right now our resume is 8-1, 7-1 vs. FBS, 0-1 vs. top 25 teams. Not a strong resume at all right now. If we beat OU, and a hopefully 8-3 Baylor team, we should expect to jump all of the 2 loss teams and certainly USC. The committee is not projecting out the rest of the schedule, they are ranking current resumes. Louisville can still jump Clemson without Clemson losing since they will have an extra win if they win out + 2 strong OOC wins, but the committee is not projecting that to happen.
The reality is the committee doesn't think we can beat OU. We win and we move to top six to eight. We win the conference and we move to top four or five. The system will exclude one P5 champion. This year it could be the B12 which has not had a banner year. Without any marquee wins and even if we win out, we will be a longshot to make the cfp. We just need to keep winning and hope for some key losses for those ahead of us.
Exactly. Im not getting all of these posters expecting the committee to do us favors when we frankly havent done any for ourselves yet other than beat mediocre competition, and in many cases winning against mediocre opponents with the aid of dramatic finishes (KSU/Texas/BYU). An OU win will validate our credibility, and even then we all know we need more things to happen. Get fired up for the biggest WVU football game in probably 9 years and dont stress about what WVU cannot control.
Bottom line, the QB has been slightly above average. He's not even a top 5 QB in the league and it's painfully obvious watching the games. Yeah, we have had some big drops but he struggles to throw the out route when it's wide open. I love Skyler and he's a true Mountaineer in spirit and a gamer. But we aren't IMO a top 10 team with him at the helm. Now if we win out maybe I'll change my tune.
Until we get a top flight QB (Next year???) this will be the case.
Worst case scenario we trade places with OK which is at #9. And number 9 with two games to go has a shot, I would think, to finish in the Top 6, if not higher.
But right now virtually no one nationally is expecting WVU to beat OU.
I gotta say that I pretty much agree with this. We have a pretty good defense. But it is not championship worthy without a consistent and productive offense. And I have to put much of that inconsistency on the QB. But you still gotta love Skylar's heart.
OK....well for those that say "we haven't done anything yet".....here is a schedule of a 2-loss Colorado team that is ahead of WVU......
Wins:
Colorado State
Idaho State
Oregon
Oregon State
Arizona State
Stanford
UCLA
Arizona
Losses:
Michigan
USC
So, just who has Colorado beaten to deserve their ranking?????? Yeah....it's all WVU's fault that we are #14......[pfftt]
Wins:
Colorado State
Idaho State
Oregon
Oregon State
Arizona State
Stanford
UCLA
Arizona
Losses:
Michigan
USC
So, just who has Colorado beaten to deserve their ranking?????? Yeah....it's all WVU's fault that we are #14......[pfftt]
If we beat Oklahoma and are still behind these teams, then unleash the waterworks, until then we as a fanbase need to ignore it
What? If we beat Oklahoma, which would be a 3 LOSS team in the eyes of the committee, will do us very little considering we are down at #14. And it's not "waterworks". It's the sentiment of the majority of America, including those NOT WVU fans. Teams like USC jumping ahead of WVU after one win? Teams like Clemson and Michigan losing and either not dropping or RAISING in the rankings? That has caused an outpouring of hatred and disbelief in this "new" system....
If we beat Oklahoma, the #9 team in the rankings, we will likely jump ahead of the 2 loss teams as it will replace 5-4 KSU as our best win and give us a 9th win (in case you havent noticed, we have a game in hand on the 8-2 teams).
As for Clemson and Michigan staying in the top 4, I dont have a problem with it. Louisville lost H2H to Clemson, the loser of Michigan-Ohio State is out, Washington got their asses handed to them at home the same week Michigan and Clemson lost, after that it doesnt matter.
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If we had beaten OSU they wouldn't be in the top 25 so we still wouldn't have a top 25 win.
You know its true!
Well....they have 2 good losses.
We only have 1.
Who knew good losses trump actual wins?
To a team that then has 3 losses and will drop out of the top 10.
Just like last week they discounted the Texas win on the road (where UT hadn't lost) as they beat a 5-5 team.
Complete body of work if we win out will ideally be:
11-1 (8-1)
Big XII Champs
Quality wins - 9-3 ranked OU / 8-4 BYU (maybe ranked?) / 8-4 Baylor (maybe ranked?)
Loss - @9-3 ranked oSu
Thats a solid resume, however things like wins vs. OU/Baylor and a Big XII title have not been added to it yet.
The problem with your opinion is Oklahoma will have 3 losses after WVU beats them, and WVU will beat them. There will have to be a legit shakeup like last week to get to 6 or 7 in ranking. Outside of that I'm thinking 8 or 9. Teams need to lose. A 3 loss Oklahoma will be nothing but a good win.
You do realize that IF Ohio State wins, they have placed them two so close together in the rankings that Michigan would likely drop out of the top 4.....HOWEVER.....Penn State would then rise up if they win out and would REPLACE them in the top 4......and Ohio State would also be in there sitting WITHOUT winning their conference.
I don't believe you have thought out the scenarios quite as much as you think you have.
There is no guarantee that happens, there is a chance but hardly a guarantee. am still of the mind that we will be on the way up if we win out and take the Big XII title. IMO if we win out we simply need
1. Louisville L
2. Washington L
3. Michigan wins B1G
It's the state's punishment for voting for something as terrible as this playoff system.
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