The wins against Georgia in the sugar and Oklahoma in the Fiesta were much bigger than any win Dana has given the Program.
What's up with Dana?
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The wins against Georgia in the sugar and Oklahoma in the Fiesta were much bigger than any win Dana has given the Program.
That 70-33 pounding of Clemson with a national TV audience was impressive.
Beating 2 top ten teams in the Sugar and Fiesta is more impressive than beating a team ranked 16th and finishing the year ranked 22nd with 4 losses
All three were BCS wins tho, right? and the domination of Clemson was Epic, right?
It might have been a BCS bowl but beating Clemson is not as impressive as beating Georgia or Oklahoma. Clemson Hadn't been to a BCS bowl or any major Bowl of that stature in 30 years same can't be said of Georgia or Oklahoma. They where also not ranked anywhere close to the top ten while both Oklahoma and Georgia where top ten teams.
Staying out of this one, but all three wins were worth a big, "Hell, yeah!" So was the first win over Penn State in a million years in 1984. WVU was ranked 18th and PSU 19th but it was still Penn State. Some guy named Rodriguez had an interception in that game, but not the winning one.
Actually the Clemson win was the most impressive. There was more talent on Clemson than Georgia or Oklahoma.
But all 3 of them were huge for WVU.
Name current NFL players under RichRod.
Name current NFL players under Stewart. Now name current NFL players under Holgorsen.
But all 3 of them were huge for WVU.
Name current NFL players under RichRod.
Name current NFL players under Stewart. Now name current NFL players under Holgorsen.
What does NFL talent have to do with anything? and when you say there was more Talent on Clemson than there was on Georgia or Oklahoma where do you come up with that? The Georgia team of 2005 that we beat in the sugar bowl had 7 players drafted in the 2006 draft and went on to put a total of 22 player into the nfl that would have been eligible to play in that game. The Oklahoma team we beat put 4 players in the draft in 2008 and a total of 20 players where drafted from that team that where eligible to play that night. Clemson had 4 players drafted in the 2012 and a total of 18 went into the nfl from that team that where eligible that night. Clemson had the least talent in terms of Nfl talent. Beating an sec champion is by far more impressive than beating an Acc champion. When we played Clemson it was the 1st time they had been too an orange bowl or any bowl of that stature in 30 years. They where nothing but underachieving scrubs. Since then they have raised their profile by beating LSU, OSU and Oklahoma twice but you can't apply the 2015 perception of Clemson to the 2011 they are worlds apart.
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we beat Clemson by 37 points and beat Georgia by 3 points in a game we tried our hardest to give away. also, the SEC wasn't dominant back then like it is now, they really didn't start their run till '08.
Clemson win > UGA win but OU trumps them both.
Clemson win > UGA win but OU trumps them both.
Just try and enjoy the game that the Mountaineers bring to your living room each week during football season. Don't demand the very best and you will be rewarded for years to come.
The sec has always been dominant . Beating an Sec champion is always more impressive than beating an ACC champion with 3 losses that's ranked 16th. The game against Georgia was also played in the Georgia dome. Why do you say the OU was the most impressive that's not what you originally said?. What does nfl talent have to do with anything?
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I think the biggest issue with Dana is he needs to have better defenses to compete for the Big 12 title. He's always produced pretty good offenses with his Air Raid system. And I know the Big 12 is known more for its up tempo high powered offenses. But if you look at last year Oklahoma won the Big 12 because they were better on defense than anyone else in the Big 12 was.
I don't think any team in the Big 12 will win any championships until there is an improvement in defenses. Oklahoma might have had the best defense but their defense wasn't great for a team trying to compete for a national championship. Wvu had a decent defense by Big 12 standards last season but for all the lofty expectations surrounding the defense they still finished behind the offense at the end of the season
Even better, enjoy the game in Mountaineer Field. Watching on TV is nowhere near the same as being part of the crowd singing "Country Roads" after a victory. I get chills when I do it. Plus, WVU benefits when people pay to attend the games. Isn't that what we really want, to help WVU do better financially?
Did I say anything about NFL talent? The SEC was not dominant during that time period. In 2003, an undefeated Auburn team with Jason Campbell, Cadillac Williams, and Ronnie Brown got left out of the NC game in favor of OU and USC, and part of that was because of perception of the SEC not being being up to snuff.
In 2005 you had a good but certainly not great UGA team with DJ Shockley at QB that won the league.
Spurrier was gone from FL
Fullmer had UT on the decline
Saban was in the NFL
Miles was in his first year at LSU and dealing with Katrina
MSU, Ole Miss, UK, VU, and SC sucked as is the norm for them.
I guess Arkansas was ok under Houston Nutt, but they were no better than mediocre.
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GetYa is right. Georgia wasn't ranked in the Top 5 as most, if not all, of the SEC Champions have been since then. Clemson's defense was horrible, and WVU's thrashing of it spelled the end for Clemson's D-Coordinator. The Oklahoma win was the best, despite the fact that the Sooners were missing at least a couple of defensive starters. One of the best jobs of motivating a team that had lost its head coach that you will ever see.
The OU win was a blessing and a curse for WVU. We won over Bradford and OU, but we had endure 3 seasons of Stewart.
Say what you will about Dana, but he never roll over and play dead when you have a top 5 team playing against ECU, and get shut out by a mid major.
That was the most pathetic loss I have ever seen.
Say what you will about Dana, but he never roll over and play dead when you have a top 5 team playing against ECU, and get shut out by a mid major.
That was the most pathetic loss I have ever seen.
Well that Oklahoma program got punked by a Wac team the year before and in that same year Florida blew out Ohio State for the national championship. Can't remember the last time a Sec champion lost to a Wac team in a bowl game. Wvu team speed was far superior to Oklahoma we made them look fat and slow
The Sec might not have been as dominant back in that era but it was still the best conference even in that day. LSU won a national championship back in those days and OU was no match for USC. A win against an SEC champion is more prestigious than a win over a Acc champion. Spurrier may have been gone at Florida but they had a better coach in Urban Meyer
Colorado: Your best argument is that Bowl Flop Bob's teams lost five BCS bowl games in a row, and the Fiesta vs. WVU was in the middle of this losing streak. However, Oklahoma had been playing very well down the stretch in 2007. Georgia was ranked #7 before the 1/2/06 Sugar Bowl, which is the lowest that an SEC Champ has been ranked for as long as I can remember.
Surely no one with even minimal knowledge of college football would question that statement. If WVU had beat Alabama, it would mean far more than beating Florida State or Clemson.
Well an sec champion is an sec champion some are better than others but Georgia still was a top ten team and wvu beat them in the Georgia dome. The big 12 is not even in the same zip code as the SEC in football. The wvu team that beat Oklahoma won because they where a much better team. we ran all over that team they where fat and slow and we exposed them but why are you surprised its seem the Big 12 gets exposed most years come bowl time
I fear for the patients that are subjected to people like you and punishEER.
The SEC is better than the Big 12 in football, but the difference isn't big.
Well the amount of National championships the Sec has won in the recent future says it is and considering the big 12 only has 2 winning bowl seasons since 2008 doesn't suggest its anywhere close to the sec either.
stupid logic lol. "I disagree with your opinions over WVU athletics, so I fear for your patients.". Actually, I fear people like you who vote. That is the real fear. Lol
Have to agree with you. You have probably taken care of him he is probably one of the frequent flier Etoh'ers that bitch all night on the call light taking care away from people that actually need it
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