Was there any explanation about the no-call?

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

How can you rip a player's helmet off without getting a pass interference call?
It's illegal to go for the face or head. There's no way to rip a player's helmet off without going to the head.
As Yul Brynner said in "The King and I," "that's a puzzlement."


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor

 

[va87eer]

Refs made up for it by missing the offensive holding on the Durant touchdown. I'm ok with that.

 

[Orlaco]

Was his helmet even strapped? Didn't look like a penalty to me.

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Was his helmet even strapped? Didn't look like a penalty to me.

The defender had a hold of the facemask and pull it off. Typically grabbing the facemask is a 15 yard penalty.

 

[Orlaco]

The defender had a hold of the facemask and pull it off. Typically grabbing the facemask is a 15 yard penalty.

Didn't see it. If so, yea you're right.

 

[TexasforevEER]

Maybe the refs thought our guy was in the process of taking his own helmet off. But, if that's the case.............he would have had to sit out a play. MMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[CAJUNEER]

Was his helmet even strapped? Didn't look like a penalty to me.

 

[CAJUNEER]

Was his helmet even strapped? Didn't look like a penalty to me.

 

[Orlaco]

K. Point taken.

 

[Monroeer]

Didn't see it. If so, yea you're right.

This might help then - http://www.wvusports.com/blogs.cfm?blog=footballBlog&story=30844

 

[WVUALLEN]

Must have been the same officials that reffed the WVU - TCU game 2 years ago when they grabbed his face mask and slammed his head into the turf. He was never the same.

 

[coalcountry52]

Must have been the same officials that reffed the WVU - TCU game 2 years ago when they grabbed his face mask and slammed his head into the turf. He was never the same.

That also lost us the game as they'd grabbed all energy and momentum on that play.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Coach D made reference to it during the post-game presser; "They usually throw a flag for that!"

 

[CE4WVU]

Look at the first photo Cajun posted... Looks like that chin guard is secured to me.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Refs made up for it by missing the offensive holding on the Durant touchdown. I'm ok with that.

So if Gibson suffered a severe neck injury from the face mask and helmet pull I guess you are still OK with that.

Holding can be called on every play. A face mask doesn't happen every play.

 

[CE4WVU]

So if Gibson suffered a severe neck injury from the face mask and helmet pull I guess you are still OK with that.

Holding can be called on every play. A face mask doesn't happen every play.

I am not okay with a second such incident in two years that I am aware of. The first with Trickett against TCU in 2014 and then this one that the blind buffoons known as Big 12 referee's failed to call. Some angry calls to the Big 12 office needs to happens in catching this crap. Oh they can say over the summer that the hit by Joseph last year against OU should have been called, but they will say little to nothing about infractions we are on the receiving end of.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Was his helmet even strapped? Didn't look like a penalty to me.

That would explain it. And him or someone else is quoted as saying he's not comfortable with the strapping and the helmet comes off more than for other players. Could be dangerous if his helmet comes off and then he gets hit in the head with another player's helmet. It's like concrete hitting on flesh.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor

 

[WVUDisciples]

the guy was behind the play. of course it was a penalty, but from behind there's no way he could see it. would've been nice if another ref would have seen and called it, but if you go back and look at the angle the ref on the play had, he could not see it. he saw the effects, but not the foul itself.

 

[Monroeer]

the guy was behind the play. of course it was a penalty, but from behind there's no way he could see it. would've been nice if another ref would have seen and called it, but if you go back and look at the angle the ref on the play had, he could not see it. he saw the effects, but not the foul itself.

You may be right that he couldn't actually see everything but the ref could see that the defensive player had his hand/arm over the top of the helmet and that the offensive player's head/body is being pulled in the opposite direction of his momentum - shouldn't be too hard to figure out what is happening.

Isn't any shot to the head considered a penalty now anyways?

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

You may be right that he couldn't actually see everything but the ref could see that the defensive player had his hand/arm over the top of the helmet and that the offensive player's head/body is being pulled in the opposite direction of his momentum - shouldn't be too hard to figure out what is happening.

Isn't any shot to the head considered a penalty now anyways?

That was my initial reaction when the helmet went flying while Gibson was unprotected and 3 feet above the turf, particularly with today's emphasis on targeting and hits to the head and leading with the helmet. I thought there would be a kneejerk flag on the play when the ref saw the helmet flying off with Gibson so high in the air. He could have been seriously hurt, depending on how he landed, and how the defender landed on his unprotected head.
There's always at least 2 sides to every story, and every call by the refs. It's a tough job, and I don't envy them. They aren't going to get it 100% because no human gets anything 100%, including me.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor

 

[va87eer]

Gibson wasn't injured. At full speed the ref just missed the facemask and if you look at the angle he had you can see why. There may be holding on every play but there isn't holding where the players jersey is stretched far from his body, twice, on the same play. I watched the replay a couple times and it looks like there was another KSU player blocking the referees view.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Gibson wasn't injured. At full speed the ref just missed the facemask and if you look at the angle he had you can see why. There may be holding on every play but there isn't holding where the players jersey is stretched far from his body, twice, on the same play. I watched the replay a couple times and it looks like there was another KSU player blocking the referees view.

It's a lot tougher refereeing today's fast-paced games, particularly in the Big 12, that many on this board think. WVU players and coaches made a raft of mistakes in the game. So did Bill Snyder, one of the game's best minds, and his players. So the refs are entitled to a few misses, with bodies flying all around them, sometimes even taking out a ref or two during the game.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

After studying the play again on my DVR copy of the game, the defender grabbed Gibson's head. Isn't that a penalty, grabbing the head, helmet or facemask? Even if the helmet wasn't secured, the defender still grabbed Gibson's head. Not his shoulder or arm. I'm leaning toward a missed call again. And, again, it's tough to ref in these Big 12 games were the action is fast and furious. I mean, the refs are running up and down the field, too.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor

 

[Woody in Helvetia]

It took me several views of the replay to see what happened. Should have been called but I can see why the red did not see it.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

It took me several views of the replay to see what happened. Should have been called but I can see why the red did not see it.

I agree, Woody, that it's tough for the refs, even as many as there are now, to see everything in read time. We get replays, run it back and forth, to check it out. Often what I think I saw at Mountaineer Field didn't happen when I get home and look at my DVR replay of the game.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor