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So is the war in Ukraine now acceptable?

no not necessarily, but it should go back to what it was founded on including not fighting foreign wars and not getting entangled in foreign alliances

just a few examples
Quincy Adams: "But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy."
George Washington: "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world"

Our founding fathers were right to try to limit government as much as possible and to no try to dominate the world, I'm not sure why conservatives disagree with this now. I guess its the whole "We got power now why shouldn't we use it" idea.

For a totally nerdy reference it was very Isildur of them. Once they became the most dominant country in the world instead of staying a small limited power government they tried to wield that power to recreate the whole world in their image, which is exactly what the founding fathers warned against.
Also **** Alexander Hamilton for his views of central banking.


Sound great. The rest of the World isn't going to comply though.
 
Comply with what? Our rules? Our founding documents? The ideas our nation was founded on?
They shouldn't have to.

I like what Trump is trying to accomplish. It's a great goal. I hope he can pull it off. Just incase he can't we might want to get our Military Functioning properly again. The 🌎 isn't as simple as you wish it was. Unfortunately.
 
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I like what Trump is trying to accomplish. It's a great goal. I hope he can pull it off. Just incase he can't we might want to get our Military Functioning properly again. The 🌎 isn't as simple as you wish it was. Unfortunately.
Were the founding fathers wrong in their ideas of what our country should be?
 
Were the founding fathers wrong in their ideas of what our country should be?
No, it's the permanent political class that has bastardized the govt into it's own little piggy bank to further their own bottom line and that means over funding programs that channel back funds to enrich them or engaging in crooked deals. Some of this stuff hitting the fan is unbelievable. A company getting a no bid 14 mill a month payment to house illegals that were never placed in them. Obama getting million dollar royalties for Obama care. Just crooked
 
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Were the founding fathers wrong in their ideas of what our country should be?

No and they definitely wouldn't had a problem with us killing some Nazis, Communist, or Islamic Jihadist when necessary either. They did fight the Indians and British in their day. So let's not pretend they were a bunch of passive bitches.
 
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No and they definitely wouldn't had a problem with us killing some Nazis, Communist, or Islamic Jihadist when necessary either.
Sounds a lot like going abroad in search of monsters to me and our alliance with Israel sounds exactly like what G Washington was warning against.


No, it's the permanent political class that has bastardized the govt into it's own little piggy bank to further their own bottom line and that means over funding programs that channel back funds to enrich them or engaging in crooked deals. Some of this stuff hitting the fan is unbelievable. A company getting a no bid 14 mill a month payment to house illegals that were never placed in them. Obama getting million dollar royalties for Obama care. Just crooked
Your right but things didn't just start going bad when Obama got into office. They did get worse (primarily because of the QE after the recession), but the problems had already started. Regan was already warning about the military industrial complex, i think that was early 80s. If you want an inflection point I'd say probably Woodrow Wilson.
 
Sounds a lot like going abroad in search of monsters to me and our alliance with Israel sounds exactly like what G Washington was warning against.



Your right but things didn't just start going bad when Obama got into office. They did get worse (primarily because of the QE after the recession), but the problems had already started. Regan was already warning about the military industrial complex, i think that was early 80s. If you want an inflection point I'd say probably Woodrow Wilson.

You understand we ship shit all the world right. That's how we got the USMC. We are also in competition with everyone else. So like I said. I like what Trump is trying to accomplish. Let's hope our enemies fear us enough to attempt to have peace. Peace through Strength doesn't work without the Strength. That's how you get conquered. Right now we need to work from the inside out.
 
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Sounds a lot like going abroad in search of monsters to me and our alliance with Israel sounds exactly like what G Washington was warning against.



Your right but things didn't just start going bad when Obama got into office. They did get worse (primarily because of the QE after the recession), but the problems had already started. Regan was already warning about the military industrial complex, i think that was early 80s. If you want an inflection point I'd say probably Woodrow Wilson.
I never said it started with Obama, I was pointing out what has come to light recently. It was Eisenhower who talked about the military industrial complex but you are correct about Woodrow Wilson. FDR was rife with communist in his admin and his VP, Wallace I believe, was forced to resign because of his communist alliances. Operation Venona uncovered communist infiltration of FDR's cabinet. Where there's billions, there's a chance for millions to be stolen. I can't believe that we funded circumcisions in Africa.
 
no not necessarily, but it should go back to what it was founded on including not fighting foreign wars and not getting entangled in foreign alliances

just a few examples
Quincy Adams: "But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy."
George Washington: "It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world"

Our founding fathers were right to try to limit government as much as possible and to no try to dominate the world, I'm not sure why conservatives disagree with this now. I guess its the whole "We got power now why shouldn't we use it" idea.

For a totally nerdy reference it was very Isildur of them. Once they became the most dominant country in the world instead of staying a small limited power government they tried to wield that power to recreate the whole world in their image, which is exactly what the founding fathers warned against.
Also **** Alexander Hamilton for his views of central banking.
Did our founding fathers take this land from it's original natives?
 
Sounds a lot like going abroad in search of monsters to me and our alliance with Israel sounds exactly like what G Washington was warning against.



Your right but things didn't just start going bad when Obama got into office. They did get worse (primarily because of the QE after the recession), but the problems had already started. Regan was already warning about the military industrial complex, i think that was early 80s. If you want an inflection point I'd say probably Woodrow Wilson.


This is ridiculous.
 
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Zelensky has lost Senator Graham.





President Trump stood up to being lectured by President Zelensky, whose behavior was beyond unacceptable and whose lectures are wearing thin. The same people who are panicking over President
@realDonaldTrump
and Vice President
@JDVance
’s handling of President Zelensky yesterday in the Oval Office are the ones who allowed Putin to roll through Ukraine.
 
The EU has now lost Senator Graham.






To the hand-wringing Europeans who felt offended by President Trump rejecting being lectured by President Zelensky: Be my guest to defend Ukraine from Putin. It is long past time for the Europeans to show they are capable of defending their own continent. They’ve allowed their militaries to be hollowed out and when Europe speaks, no bad guy listens. I say this with great sadness: The last group of people that I would count on to defend freedom are the Europeans.
 
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