you and mneilmont mentioned JC Snead below. My golf course was located inside a city park. Whenever we would cut down trees we would sell the wood for $5 a pickup load. I was sitting in my office one chilly afternoon when this guy walks in to get a wood permit.He's got the typical bibs, beard with tobacco juice look. I had a pitching wedge in the corner...guy picks it up, puts the perfect grip on it and says,,"you might not believe this but I'm the man who taught JC Snead how to hit 4 wood off the hardpan".....after he left I called my boss who was from Bath County and he said that after 5 locals could play for next to nothing, and that those farmer type looking dudes would shoot 72 and take every dollar in your wallet