RichRod Poll
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It was a decade ago.....get over it. wouldn't be anymore of a cancer to the program than what losing does to it!!!
I neither love him nor hate him. I don't have much respect for him as a man, but concede he's a pretty good (not great) football coach.
I will only go so far as to say that if presented with only two possible choices as coach, Rich or Dana, I'd reluctantly pick Rich. I don't think though we are limited to one or the other.
I will only go so far as to say that if presented with only two possible choices as coach, Rich or Dana, I'd reluctantly pick Rich. I don't think though we are limited to one or the other.
I will forever be grateful to Rich for getting my alma mater to the cusp of a national title game, which only Don Nehlen has done (1 1/2 times, depending on how you count the 1993 season).
I found his Michigan antics toward WVU distasteful, but I think the WVU administration at the time -- the president and Pastilong -- should share the blame for that situation. If Oliver Luck were AD then, Rich would have remained at WVU because he would have gotten the improvements he wanted, and the Oliver later provided to Dana.
Rich is a winner, at WVU and Arizona. Michigan has been a quagmire for a decade, with and without Rich. Jim Harbaugh may be changing that, but he hasn't been there a full season yet, so we'll see what happens when the Wolverines are no longer running on the fumes of Harbaught mania.
I found his Michigan antics toward WVU distasteful, but I think the WVU administration at the time -- the president and Pastilong -- should share the blame for that situation. If Oliver Luck were AD then, Rich would have remained at WVU because he would have gotten the improvements he wanted, and the Oliver later provided to Dana.
Rich is a winner, at WVU and Arizona. Michigan has been a quagmire for a decade, with and without Rich. Jim Harbaugh may be changing that, but he hasn't been there a full season yet, so we'll see what happens when the Wolverines are no longer running on the fumes of Harbaught mania.
Not me. A pound of sausage on three or four cathead biscuits is the choice south of Clarksburg. Not enough lard in those little bitty rolls for a real man with a functioning colon.
I pee on pepperoni rolls.
I agree 100%, but I also do not want him back. I place winning highly, but I place honor even higher and RR has none. I have been critical of both Stewart and Holgorsen but both men are honorable even if Bill stained his on the way out. I can forgive Bill his error but what RR did was premeditated and calculated to cause the greatest possible harm to WVU and its reputation.
If you're forgiving someone then you're basically writing they were not honorable.... ...and if you're one of the people that believe the speculation about what BS may have done... ....then how could you possibly believe it wasn't 'premeditated' ? What....he asked a reporter to slander a WVU coach (which then would include WVU) and it was just an instantaneous and emotional slip of the tongue ??
I have no idea if any of it's true.....but if you, and it seems you do, believe it then there's absolutely no way you should be forgiving Bill while at the same time refusing to be understanding of the siruation Rich was in...
lol Bill Stewart tried to ruin a mans career (Dana) that he didn't even know. All because he felt the school wronged him. Like Dana or not, he was a potential innocent victim in that attempted character assassination.
I can separate the motivations between RR and BS. RR did it to avoid paying money he owed and while I am probably in the minority, I think he was in contact with Michigan well before the Pitt game and winning the Pitt game would complicate his plans to exit immediately, which he very much wanted to do. What BS did was because he felt he was wronged and he was defending his own honor. I don't think any one else saw it that way, but his attacks were not against WVU or for money, they were against his replacement. I am sure you can see the difference in that. BS was reacting even if some of his actions were pre-mediated. RRs antics were all about him and designed to cause as much damage as possible.
I agree, but then I did not say anything about his honor, except that he has it. I have also not besmirched his coaching ability other than to say I believe he is currently over his head at a P5 school as HC. I think he can do the P5 OC thing and can handle the HC job at a mid-major just fine. I have made no attack on Dana.
I don't typically use personal insults.... ...but only an idiot would think a coach would throw the game (for another pending job) that would get him to the national title game. That's what you're suggesting, right (here's your chance to run away from that moronic opinion) ?
A game that would force EVERY school to wait on his services....that would make him MUCH more money.
Go ahead...defend your opinion....fun to watch...
Challenge accepted. I'll admit it Orlaco. Either he threw the Pitt game 28 point favorite at home. Best team in years against Pitts worst team. Averaged in the neighborhood of 40 points against them in previous years. Can't even score 2 tds? Also withdrew from the lawsuit against the university as soon as the judge ordered that they produce the timetable of UM negotiations. Either all of those things add up to prove that Rich Rod threw the game OR he was a shitty coach that lost to the equivalent of Kansas with a team that waxed Oklahoma. Take your pick.
You say shitty....I say stubborn.
He had a long history of being stubborn along with a few shitty coaching jobs (games) along the way.
NO COACH INTENTIONAL THROWS AWAY A SPOT IN THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME.... ...one that would have still got him the Michigan (or many others) job for even more money.
He had a long history of being stubborn along with a few shitty coaching jobs (games) along the way.
NO COACH INTENTIONAL THROWS AWAY A SPOT IN THE NATIONAL TITLE GAME.... ...one that would have still got him the Michigan (or many others) job for even more money.
its stupid to think Rod threw the Pitt game. A berth in a NC game would only enhance his resume. Plus it should be noted that the following 3 yrs after that dreadful night, Pitt was pretty good.
because he was likely in negotiations with Michigan. It doesn't mean he threw the Wvu Pitt game. Don't be soo stupid lol
From where I'm sitting, it's really stupid to think that a team that blows out Oklahoma loses to a 28 point dog at home bc the other team is "better"
Right...but from where you're sitting you most likely see the corner of a room and feel like you're wearing a tall pointed hat.
um yeah, upsets just never happen. Do they? Was his mind on other things? Possibly. Internal battles with pastilong, garrison, others? On Michigan? Possibly, even likely. To think he threw the game is ignorant. Plus like I said, Pitt took off winning almost immediately after that the next couple years. They even went to a bcs I believe? They were just coming together. And the most important part it was a bitter rivalry where records have never mattered. It's back and forth. Generally always close. And it was the 100th meeting. Get a clue lol
First time I've heard that. Got a link from anyone not named Rich (or Rita) Rod? I'd say looking back, they had good reason if they were going to. Seems pretty illogical that WVU would fire a coach who had a job offer in hand from UofM. But hey, I'm the one reaching here...
This is great on so many levels. First, I suspect you want Dana fired. Now you are making excuses for a REALLY bad loss from the guy you want as head coach.lets never forget the 3-0 Pitt vs Utah barn burner. Yeah great program they built up there off of that win...I've known a few Pitt fans and none of them will tell you that they were "just coming together". That team was a train wreck. That program was a train wreck. I guess I need a clue though
yeah you do need a clue. If pat mcafee makes those 2 field goals and pat white isn't hurt we would've won. Is that Rods fault as well?
Did Pat not return to the game? We should have won regardless. Brown was no slouch. McAfee had a bad game, nobody knows how that game turns out if he makes those field goals. Fact is he didn't and RichRod couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag in that game and hasn't set the world on fire anywhere else. I don't ever want to see him back and I'm growing tired of Dana as well.
you should brush up on your math skills. We lost 13-9. 2 field goals equal 6 points. 9 + 6= 15. Final score Wvu 15 Pitt 13
I'm well aware of what 9+6 is. I guess I wasn't basic enough for you to understand what I meant. How teams score, or fail to score, as an impact on coaching strategy and the way the rest of the game is played. Field position. The need for Pitt, if they were losing, to play more aggressively to take the lead back. It's not as simple as you think, just adding a couple field goals to the score. But hey, this is the WVU message board, let's stick with insulting people who don't think like us because that's a lot easier than having honest discussion.
I can't stand the clown. ...however doesn't prevent my assertion that the fools in this thread and life in general thinking RR threw that game? Wow! Just plain STUPID! LMAO!!!
The only basis for WVU to have planned to fire Rich prior to the game would be that he was in violation of his then new contract by having his agent enter negotiations with Michigan and was preparing to leave.
Successful coaches don't get fired for simply being a horse's ass. If that was the case, Woody Hayes and Bob Knight would have had very short careers. You've got to do something in violation of your contract or university policy to put your head in the noose.
If negotiations with Michigan were on, Rich paddled himself up the proverbial creek. He has no one else to blame.
And no, Rich didn't throw the game. He choked. If he'd got to the NC, he could have twisted both Michigan and WVU's balls in negotiations. Instead he dropped the paddle and had to be airlifted out of the creek and away from Morgantown that night. It's likely the pressure of that double game was too much for him.
Rich isn't the brightest guy in the world, or the mentally toughest. What other type of man in his 40's calls his Mom in to back up him up when he gets caught in a pack of lies heading out the door? Just Rich Rodiguez, the Eric Cartman of college football.
Successful coaches don't get fired for simply being a horse's ass. If that was the case, Woody Hayes and Bob Knight would have had very short careers. You've got to do something in violation of your contract or university policy to put your head in the noose.
If negotiations with Michigan were on, Rich paddled himself up the proverbial creek. He has no one else to blame.
And no, Rich didn't throw the game. He choked. If he'd got to the NC, he could have twisted both Michigan and WVU's balls in negotiations. Instead he dropped the paddle and had to be airlifted out of the creek and away from Morgantown that night. It's likely the pressure of that double game was too much for him.
Rich isn't the brightest guy in the world, or the mentally toughest. What other type of man in his 40's calls his Mom in to back up him up when he gets caught in a pack of lies heading out the door? Just Rich Rodiguez, the Eric Cartman of college football.
Yeah, this is such a crappy job. I doubt we would ever be able to find anyone but Dana or Rich Rod to fill it. Maybe we could exhume some old coaches and prop them up on the sidelines. Maybe, maybe we could get Doc Holiday to think about it since he used to play here. Nobody else out there that would even consider this job, unless they are washed up, stink, are too young or have other issues. Abandon all hope.
Defend my opinion to you? You think too highly of yourself. To think he threw the game is not logical, not reasonable and not something that even enters into the coaching world of a competitive sport like college football, but we are not talking about those things. We are talking about the inner workings of a mind that has displayed many questionable choices and thought patterns. I would not do it. You would not do it. But who is to say what RR would do if there was something he wanted more than a NC at WVU? I know it busts a few bubbles to say this, but an NC at WVU is not held in the same regard as one at Michigan - ask BYU or even Pitt.
I do not care what others think on this subject, I believe RR threw the game to get to Michigan as soon as he could.
Pitt sucked that year rather or not they won the next 3 years, and no the BCS year was in 2004 for pitt. Upsets do happen but this was all on RR and he blew his one and only chance at a national title, and trashed WVU on his way out. Could care less about him and it will be a big mistake if WVU even entertains the idea of him coming back.
Love em, Hate em? Where is the "He Can Suck My Dick" choice? Did I miss something? Surely there are other options.
YEP! thinking the same thing. What kind of fool would throw away a once in a lifetime chance at a NC in his home state at his Alma mater? He just got beat that day. Maybe he was not as sharp that day with all that was going on internally with him knowing he was leaving WVU and the heat would be on him. I do not want him back but maybe and I say maybe he was humbled after such a scandal but then again? LOL
RR did not throw the Pitt game. Pitt controlled the LOS. Here is also some reality. Even with RR WVU is going to post similar records as Dana in the Big 12. His teams will just be more physical and play some of these teams closer.
