Starting to think that Jake may end up staying with the Pens....lots of folks think he's going to VAN, but they decided to go with Mantha on the cheap instead.
Mantha went to Vegas. I read that a three team deal for Jake involving Vancouver and Boston could happen. I’d love to get Lekkerimaki from VAN as part of the deal.
Yep up until the recent heater I’ve been rooting for losses to keep that pick. Still going to be an uphill battle to get in but I hope we don’t fall just short hole screwing our selves out of that pick. It would be such a Pens thing to do lolHey guys, long time no talk with you guys. Hope all has been well with everyone! I absolutely hated to see Jake go. Ned is looking great in the pipes, makes paying Jarry 5 million a year look foolish. Shocked we are on the run we are on, was kinda hoping for tanking the season post the Jake trade to get a lottery pick we wouldn’t have to give up to San Jose because of the Karlsson trade.
I totally expect to miss the playoffs but fall out of lottery contention, so that pick will be gone. Also, the canes won’t make the finals, so we will essentially get no sizzle from the Guentzel trade. Bunting is a pro, but he is no Jake. The prospects we obtained were B grade, not 1 A minus type IMO.Yep up until the recent heater I’ve been rooting for losses to keep that pick. Still going to be an uphill battle to get in but I hope we don’t fall just short hole screwing our selves out of that pick. It would be such a Pens thing to do lol
Terrible trade. Can’t believe that’s the most we could get.I totally expect to miss the playoffs but fall out of lottery contention, so that pick will be gone. Also, the canes won’t make the finals, so we will essentially get no sizzle from the Guentzel trade. Bunting is a pro, but he is no Jake. The prospects we obtained were B grade, not 1 A minus type IMO.
It’s a shame we dig such a huge hole. And on the end the worst case scenario happened. Just missed the playoffs, and forfeited what would have been a lottery pick had we finished in top 10.So, what will this team look like at camp next October ??
Easy to say they'll take an earth mover to the roster. But I have absolutely no clue as to what they can realistically expect to move and receive something useful in return. Of course, that's before we discuss anyone's current opinion on Dubas (and Sully, for that matter).
As was the case last year, I myself will assume KD's primary marching orders from FSG will be to do whatever is necessary to sell as many 2024/25 season tickets as he can.
The Penguins made the mistake that many teams that win the Stanley cup make. They held on to the past to long when they should have been looking to the future. The rebuild should have started two or three seasons ago. Bringing in guys like Karlsson and Carter were a mistake. They needed 20-year-old versions of these guys not guys in their 30's. These guys may have made the team better, but you weren't going to win a cup by adding them. The Chicago Blackhawks are another example of waiting too long to acknowledge the party is over.It’s a shame we dig such a huge hole. And on the end the worst case scenario happened. Just missed the playoffs, and forfeited what would have been a lottery pick had we finished in top 10.
Still not sure how Reirden managed to keep his job. Let alone Sullivan. How many years of futility does it take to force a change?
I agree 100%. That being said, Carter is retiring and I wish Geno would do the same. We need to clear some cap space first. So moving Graves and perhaps Jars would be a great start. I think Ned is our #1 now and we need that cap space.The Penguins made the mistake that many teams that win the Stanley cup make. They held on to the past to long when they should have been looking to the future. The rebuild should have started two or three seasons ago. Bringing in guys like Karlsson and Carter were a mistake. They needed 20-year-old versions of these guys not guys in their 30's. These guys may have made the team better, but you weren't going to win a cup by adding them. The Chicago Blackhawks are another example of waiting too long to acknowledge the party is over.
Think a team would take Jarry since he is a 5 million per year deal/cap hit? I hope we can find a sucker if so!I agree 100%. That being said, Carter is retiring and I wish Geno would do the same. We need to clear some cap space first. So moving Graves and perhaps Jars would be a great start. I think Ned is our #1 now and we need that cap space.
We’d probably have to retain some salary to move Jars. Hated that deal when it was made. I live the young defensive duo. Hope we can get Graves off the books.Think a team would take Jarry since he is a 5 million per year deal/cap hit? I hope we can find a sucker if so!
Carter comes off the books. We still have a couple more years before Jack Johnson comes off our cap hit. Karlson’s deal is a MAJOR anchor that is not helping our cause.
All we can do currently is waiting until some of the anchors are finally removed via time because most teams will not want to take them unless we sacrifice more and we can’t. We must accumulate draft picks, so let’s hope Carolina makes it out of the East since we give a #1 to San Jose.
Personally, I hope we lock down our young defensive pair of Shea/St. Ivany. I think they have done enough to warrant a much longer look/placement into the rotation. Also, extend Ned.
Still not sure how Reirden managed to keep his job. Let alone Sullivan. How many years of futility does it take to force a change?
We’d probably have to retain some salary to move Jars. Hated that deal when it was made. I live the young defensive duo. Hope we can get Graves off the books.
I personally don’t mind Sullivan. It’s TR that is surprising to me. Think Dubas has it in him to force movement in that way?Everything I read claims FSG.....and (IMO) by extension, Dubas.....loves Sullivan to death, presumably because he's a Boston guy. So, unless something really shocking/unexpected occurs, I expect him to be behind the bench fulfilling at least a majority of his new contract.
All I'll say is that I expect Dubas to pitch Jarry to Carolina, especially if the Canes' goaltending disappoints in these playoffs. Might seem a silly thought, but remember that Carolina's defense is good enough to improve pretty much any goaltender. I also think this would be part of Dubas' attempt to leverage the fact Waddell got Guentzel from him on the cheap.
Maybe they can call Edmonton......again, if their goaltending disappoints this Spring.......but I don't know who else would even consider Jarry. Certainly hard for me to imagine anyone else in the East (beside Carolina) would bite on him.
As for Graves......unless Jersey really wants him back for some unknown reason......I can't figure out who'd want him right now at ANY price.
All I know is that somebody has to pay for this season's PP disaster, and it isn't going to be anyone who carries a stick. I think the chances are reasonable that Sully cleans house behind the bench.....if for no other reason than personal cover.......though I haven't the foggiest idea what direction he'd go with that.I personally don’t mind Sullivan. It’s TR that is surprising to me. Think Dubas has it in him to force movement in that way?
I’d love to see Carolina take Jarry. They do offer better protection in front, so he may become more serviceable for them. He has value in the league, but his over inflated contract drastically reduces that value.
Graves was bad this year, but I am not writing him off yet. For blue line convo, I commend Peterson and Joseph for working their tails off in covering for Tanger and EK this past year.
For selfish reasons, I want Guentzel back this offseason.
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