Not sure MAF has any reason to be pleased how he's gone from local hero to afterthought in Las Vegas.......but it'll always be a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately business.https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/fleury-doesnt-want-distraction-asked-agent-remove-post/sn-amp/
Don't want to be a distraction? Well I'd argue you've failed in that regard Flower...
I can't imagine MAF's teammates being overly pleased with the entire scenario. And wonder what their discussion was with him. Something along the likes of 'Did you know about this? Don't really care if you did or didn't, we have games to win and no time for a pity party'.... Whether or not he deserves to sit on the pine doesnt matter either imo. As you said it's what have you done for me lately...Not sure MAF has any reason to be pleased how he's gone from local hero to afterthought in Las Vegas.......but it'll always be a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately business.
Meanwhile, all Lehner has done the past couple seasons is pretty much everything his teams have wanted from a goaltender, and he still can't earn a long term deal (for all the well known reasons). Wondering if Vegas will finally break that rule.....especially if he gets the Knights to the Finals again.
As per this... MacLellan says 'we need an experienced head coach' lol! You had him, and played russian roulette whether or not Trotz was playing hardball...deciding to bring in a substitute teacher as babysitter. Hell, whatever...it works for me...the curse of Barry Trotz? That'd be awesome imo...Todd Reirdon out in Washington, which I believe WAS expected after the Craps' egg laying vs the Isles. I wonder to what extent Craps fans have been taking ownership to task the past couple years for ejecting arguably THE best coach in the game. No guarantee they'd have won the Cup the last 2 years whether or not Trotz was still behind the bench, of course.......
So, the names I've been hearing associated with the Craps are the reflex answers.......Babcock, Gallant, and Laviolette.As per this... MacLellan says 'we need an experienced head coach' lol! You had him, and played russian roulette whether or not Trotz was playing hardball...deciding to bring in a substitute teacher as babysitter. Hell, whatever...it works for me...the curse of Barry Trotz? That'd be awesome imo...
Kapanen and a minor league D-man (sounds like a throw-in) to Pens for their (presumably) 2020 #1; I haven't seen enough of KK to know if that's a good/reasonable deal or not. From what I can tell, the kid can play.......but I'm not sure he's a good enough return for the highest pick they've had in a decade. Sounds like the deal includes no salary withhold by the Leaves.
This is nutz for our first??? This year? In a deep draft?I think jr is losing his mind.
This post has aged well.@ColoradoMountaineer ....I imagine since your Preds are out, you must be impressed with your Av's meantime? They look absolutely deadly as do the younger buck Canucks. This is the series I want to see. Plenty of skill with a small amount of dirty. **** Vegas, all of it with them. Dallas is not good enough on the whole imo. They have weak spots.
Agreed... so no teardown whatsoever. Instead this guy thinks he can turn the chicken shit we've all been watching to chicken salad while trading away legit assets .... btw Kap likes to sleep in from practice quite often. He'll fit into the country club quite nicely...Obviously, Rutherford continues to refuse to bide his time for draft picks to come around........I'd like to think he also believes KK to be a better long-term prospect than any winger that's expected to be available in this Draft. You're free to disagree with that (as I think I do). I'm also unsure why he was apparently so willing to move Hallander, who was (comparatively speaking) one of the team's better prospects.
Looks to me this remains a classic Rutherford deal where he's more interested in the short than long term; understandable for him, but why ownership continues to authorize these kinds of deals is hard to understand.
Hmmm.....I find myself wondering how happy KK was playing in Toronto. Can't tell that from where I live.Agreed... so no teardown whatsoever. Instead this guy thinks he can turn the chicken shit we've all been watching to chicken salad while trading away legit assets .... btw Kap likes to sleep in from practice quite often. He'll fit into the country club quite nicely...
The country club is the fvcking problem.Agreed... so no teardown whatsoever. Instead this guy thinks he can turn the chicken shit we've all been watching to chicken salad while trading away legit assets .... btw Kap likes to sleep in from practice quite often. He'll fit into the country club quite nicely...
He had every opportunity to play with the big guns and failed, under two different coaches. Doesn't enjoy discipline as a regular player. About the only good thing I can say about him is he's a decent guy on your PK for some strange reason. 5 on 5 or PP not so much. I guess we have to hope he can find a way to fit in...but I'm not holding my breath.Hmmm.....I find myself wondering how happy KK was playing in Toronto. Can't tell that from where I live.
Here you go...Hmmm.....I find myself wondering how happy KK was playing in Toronto. Can't tell that from where I live.
He will happily give the Leaves the cap room they so desperately needed however... which I am left wondering if GMJR is really talking out his ass about reducing the cap number. Sure he obviously wasnt planning on re-signing Rod, and jettisoned 400 g's from Warsofsky, all while taking on 3 point some mill of KK.The only way this deal would have been a good one is if we shipped JJ and his contract off as part of the deal.
It’s obvious GMJR had a hard on for Kap and he was hell bent on getting him no matter what the cost. A first alone would be too much. Ugh.
He will happily give the Leaves the cap room they so desperately needed however... which I am left wondering if GMJR is really talking out his ass about reducing the cap number. Sure he obviously wasnt planning on re-signing Rod, and jettisoned 400 g's from Warsofsky, all while taking on 3 point some mill of KK.
These deals of late stink of self preservation if you ask me...
Yes. Unfortunately. And this one makes me nervous. His father is an asshat of epic proportions and also best buddies with Mario....so hey, why not bring your son in to join the club and NEVER leave right Tie? F that...Has anyone else read that Domi to the Pens is a real possibility?
Interesting perspective.......not sure I agree with it, but I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.Good post @COOL MAN . It’s apparent their familiarity with Kaps is why they made the trade. Same thing goes for Sheary. The wanted guys they know and trust who are still young and have speed. Personally I’d take Kahun over Sheary and maybe even over Kaps. But it’s clear what GMJR is doing wether we like it or not. If we open the season with JJ on the 3rd pairing then I give up having any hope.
I admittedly begged to see McCann at C, by the looks of it, I was wrong. When re-introduced to the position at times this year he failed, and miserably imo.Here's one of.....if not the only........positive spin I've read thus far on the deal from columnist Joe Starkey of the Pitt Post Gazette. FWIW, I think he soft-pedals Ken Campbell's comments, and badly oversimplifies what's in the System when he compares it to that Ray Shero left (which I admittedly also thought was pretty slim).
The Penguins were one of the oldest teams in the bubble, it’s true. But that isn’t necessarily the case moving forward. It’s not like they’ll be attending team-wide early bird specials before games next season.
In fact, once you say goodbye to 40-year-old Patrick Marleau (the Penguins surely will) and maybe 33-year-old Jack Johnson (they surely should), this team could enter next season with only four players in their 30s: Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Kris Letang and Patric Hornqvist, and who knows if they try to deal Hornqvist (they shouldn’t)?
The Boston Bruins seem to be doing pretty well with a handful of guys in their 30s (Brad Marchand, Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci, Jaroslav Halak and 43-year-old Zdeno Chara). The key is to supplement those players with quality 20-somethings, because while aging stars can be major contributors, they don’t usually carry teams to Cups. David Pastrnak, 23, became the Bruins’ biggest star this season.
The Penguins have plenty of 20-something talent on their roster. They got younger, faster and feistier Tuesday afternoon, when general manager Jim Rutherford sent a first-round pick and other pieces to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for a player Rutherford drafted, parlayed into Phil Kessel and has long since admired — speedy right winger Kasperi Kapanen.
The logical spot for Kapanen is Sidney Crosby’s right wing (not sure if you’ve heard, but Sid needs a winger). That would potentially give the Penguins a top six of Jake Guentzel, 25, Crosby, Kapanen (turned 24 last month), Jason Zucker, 28, Malkin and Bryan Rust, 27. I’m thinking a lot of teams would trade for that top six.
Whether Kapanen can thrive alongside Crosby is of course an open question. Veteran reporter Ken Campbell of The Hockey News is based in Toronto, so he has seen plenty of Kapanen. I asked Campbell if he sees Kapanen as a fit for Crosby.
“I don’t think he’s the answer, but you never know,” Campbell said. “There’s a lot of guys like that, where their hand speed doesn’t match their foot speed, and I think this is probably another one of those guys.”
Fair enough, but a guy doesn’t have to be Mike Bossy to play next to Crosby. He needs to think the game like him and play fast. Guys such as Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis were excellent linemates.
Critics trotted out Kapanen’s questionable advanced stats Tuesday, but guess what? Those numbers might look a little different playing next to Crosby and Guentzel.
Crosby could bring out the best in Kapanen, who scored 20 goals two years ago. Shoot, if he can hit an empty net from the goal line, he’ll be an upgrade from the likes of Dominik Simon. But if things don’t work out there — and it’s never a guarantee when you’re attempting to collaborate with a great player — Kapanen could upgrade the bottom six.
In any case, this was a step in the right direction. And for those of you flipping out over Rutherford trading another first-round pick, plus prospect Filip Hallander, relax. You’re probably the same people who accused Ray Shero of leaving an empty cupboard. You know, before players such as Rust, Matt Murray, Olli Maatta, Dumoulin and Guentzel helped the Penguins win Cups.
There are many ways to procure young players. The Penguins are pretty good at signing college free agents, for example. But if you’re still hung up on losing those precious first-round picks, just pretend John Marino was one (he’s 22 and was stolen from Edmonton for a late-round pick). Pretend Marcus Pettersson, 23, was another. Pretend Kapanen is this year’s 15th overall pick — the bonus being that he has already proven he can play.
I don’t look at this deal as one of those “window-closing” type moves, even if Rutherford seems to.
“When you look at what our goal is, to contend within this group of Sid, Geno and Tanger, these are the kind of deals you have to make,” he said. “You know at some time you might pay the price for that down the road. But this is what we feel we need to do to continue to contend."
To acquire a likely top-six winger who just turned 24 for the uncertainty of the 15th pick? I like that deal. It’s not like you just traded the fifth pick.
Meanwhile, the Penguins hardly are decrepit. Besides all the players already mentioned, Brian Dumoulin and Brandon Tanev are still in their 20s. Presumptive No. 1 goalie Tristan Jarry is 24.
A key question moving forward is what to do with 24-year-old Jared McCann. Is he the No. 3 center? He went downhill fast the second half of the season, and the Penguins just brought in a $3.2 million salary in Kapanen’s. They might have to make a tough decision on McCann, a restricted free agent.
Rutherford has plenty of tough decisions ahead. I’m thinking he made a good one Tuesday.
Not that I really care overall but will be interesting to see does Deboer stick with Lehner after 4 g against last night (which according to several analysts I heard weren't really weak ones), or 'stick' the sword wielding backstopper in there tomorrow... my bet says they/ he sticks with Lehner, a bit juicy regardless....