He is not being mentioned for the North Carolina job and this a job that would have a similar candidate list to WVU. You're the guy who said we can get a great coach. You stated that you never said that Fisher was a great coach. If that's the case, why do you want him? The word on Fisher is he's washed up and don't pretend you haven't heard that.
If he's not great than you shouldn't want him. If you're going to make a change and pay a buyout than it should be for a significant upgrade. Nothing suggests that a guy who had all the resources in the world and couldn't win will come to a place with significantly less and light the world on fire. You're a guy who holds on to the past to long. You should have learned that lesson today in basketball.
I agree with that actually. For some reason nobody thinks that's going to happen though. But the thing about it and the only reason I even bring up fisher is because there's a rumor that says he will come here for cheap and when you combine that with the rumor that we're not going to spend anything because we're too poor then it seems to make sense. If that rumor is not true then I would rather look elsewhere. If we're going to pay big money then I would probably try to get someone else but that doesn't mean that Fisher isn't going to prove everybody wrong. Texas A&M has their own problems that don't involve him. He could very well take a job and prove to be the shit. I don't think he will but it's possible.
I'd be curious about your take on coaches. If we are going to replace brown, do you have a short list? Because honestly my mind is pretty open still at this point.
Look at the UNC list that is what is out there. UNC is a comparable program to Wvu. If we make a change, you will see quite a few of the same names being mentioned at Wvu. Anyone not mentioned is someone we shouldn't be pursuing. Most College football analysts believe that this year's coaching pool is very weak. It's one of the reasons that schools have been reluctant to make a change. Sometimes it's not worth paying a buyout when all you're doing is firing your coach to hire the same quality coach.
I don't disagree with your point, the problem with WVU and brown is they let this get ugly when they really should have let him go two years ago. I know the contract buyout that Shane gave him was ridiculous and that's what really screwed things up, but the problem with it is we are over a half a decade into the worst half of a decade since the 60s or 70s. Now it has become personal for a lot of fans. They are going after Neil Brown. It should have never come to this but if we keep him and he doesn't do good next year, it's just going to be awful for him and his family and for every fan. It sucks were in this position but at this point the situation has become almost toxic. I'm a huge Neil Brown critic as far as his coaching, but I have met him personally and I know damn well he is a very good person and he has a very nice family and they deserve peace. And WVU deserves a better coach. So what do we do? It's a tough situation for sure
Yeah it’s just silly. Jimbo has chosen not to coach. He’s won a lot of games. He had 2 bad years his final 2 at Texas A&M. Nehlen had a similar stretch between 1989 and 1992. Was he washed up? No. It happens. If you took Jimbos stretch at both FSU and Texas A&M from 2010-2023 and compared it to any similar stretch in WVU history, it would be considered the greatest in the schools football history. And he’s only 58 today. I’m not sure what the man did to make these few posters dismiss him as washed up, but it’s absolutely foolish.
That's a really good point about Nehlen having a similar stretch. I don't know if Jimbo will ever have the same success that he did at Florida state, but bad coaches don't win national championships no matter what. His offensive system is definitely a little out of date, but him as a head coach probably has a lot of gas left in his tank. Get that man a good OC and he will surprise a lot of people most likely. He can recruit and he knows how to run a team. The guy we have has a complete failed philosophy. He coaches a player led team which is kind of a new coaching phenomenon and it really has fell flat on its face everywhere I have seen it. Fishers hard nose coaching style would instantly improve this team.
Another really good point right there. I mean that's pretty true. I can't think of one but I'm not the best person to ask that kind of question. There is something I always think about that I don't think it's really measurable. And it's just how good does a coach fit in a particular place. That type of thing is why I never once had a doubt that Rich Rod was going to fail at Michigan in record speed. Everything about him , his coaching style and his system was a bad fit at michigan. They deserved what they got out of Rich Rod for not recognizing that. feel like if you were going to hire somebody like Nick Saban to coach a team like USC or oregon, it would be similar. I just don't think he would fit there very good. Purely speculation of course but I do believe there's something to that. I think Fisher was a much better fit at Florida State than he was Texas A&M also. Fisher is 58 which really isn't that bad either. He is definitely better than brown but like you said so is Dana.
