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New assault rifle being sold to civilians is twice as powerful as the AR-15 and capable of shooting through bulletproof vests, report says

Repubs need to ditch the gun fetish and fanaticism and let public safety take the lead for a change.

Like open borders, defunding the police, allowing riots, government officials bailing out criminals so they can get back to rioting, decriminalizing public urination and defecation, store robberies, not prosecuting criminals, etc...

That kind of public safety? No thank you.

You, my fellow American, are extremely ignorant and blind to what America haters, you vote for, are doing to this country. You are one example, of many, of what's wrong with this country.
 
Repubs need to ditch the gun fetish and fanaticism and let public safety take the lead for a change.

New assault rifle being sold to civilians is twice as powerful as the AR-15 and capable of shooting through bulletproof vests, report says

It's not the rifle It's the caliber that can go through certain levels of body armor. News Flash alot of calibers can go through certain levels of body armor. It's a 8,000 gun that most can't afford. As long as we keep them out of the hands of Democrat voters we should be safe.
 
I'm seeing a pricey upgraded AR-10. Am I off?

I would have to see it defeat a ceramic plate to believe it. That takes rounds made of certain material and has little to do with the caliber. Not alot of people wearing level 4 plates at Krogers or Walmart. So the media trying to make it sound scary is funny. The military needs to upgrade from the 5.56. I think the 6.5 grendel would be the way to go. Great ballistics and long barrel life to save tax payers money. Recoil is managble for all troops.
 

The concept of the ,277 fury isn't new. They have been playing with the 6.8 for awhile. It may work out. Obviously the government isn't going to pay Sig 8,000 dollars a gun however it will be more than previous guns and ammo cost. I would like to see what the barrel life will be. The 6.5 grendel has been out for almost twenty years now. Should have went to that along time ago. Guess we will see. I think going to the Sig Sauer pistol they are currently using was not a good move. But that just my preference and I'm sure the younger generation likes it because it weighs less than the Beretta or 1911.
 
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The concept of the ,277 fury isn't new. They have been playing with the 6.8 for awhile. It may work out. Obviously the government isn't going to pay Sig 8,000 dollars a gun however it will be more than previous guns and ammo cost. I would like to see what the barrel life will be. The 6.5 grendel has been out for almost twenty years now. Should have went to that along time ago. Guess we will see. I think going to the Sig Sauer pistol they are currently using was not a good move. But that just my preference and I'm sure the younger generation likes it because it ways less than the Beretta or 1911.
I was affiliated with one of the companies on the NGSW competition. Our project lead was a STA guy, had some Ramadi still in his ass.
 
Repubs need to ditch the gun fetish and fanaticism and let public safety take the lead for a change.

New assault rifle being sold to civilians is twice as powerful as the AR-15 and capable of shooting through bulletproof vests, report says
You have no idea what you are talking about. Very few so called 'assault weapons ' are involved in mass shootings and many more semi-automatic rifles with extended magazines are involved in successful home defense.

That's all an 'assault weapon' is, a small caliber scary looking rifle with an extended magazine. My .270, .308. and .30-06 are all 3 more powerful but they are classified as hunting rifles. They sell cars to the public that can go 180 mph but that doesn't mean you have to go that fast.

If you don't want an AR-15, don't buy one, but don't tell me I can't. Unless you bust through the front or back doors of my home you will never see it except at the range. Nobody will. Make it unlawful to carry it on the street, that's fine. But stay out of my well reinforced and secure gun closet.
 
I was affiliated with one of the companies on the NGSW competition. Our project lead was a STA guy, had some Ramadi still in his ass.
For a squad weapon it may end up being a good choice. Not sure about as a battle rifle in that caliber for everyone. Don't know enough about the recoil factor for regular troops. I know it will cost more. Personally I think they got it right decades ago with the 308. Should have stuck with that and conducted more PT. Hard to beat it's accuracy, barrel life, and knockdown power. No matter how many times they try to reinvent that wheel it still checks alot of boxes IMO.
 
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For a squad weapon it may end up being a good choice. Not sure about as a battle rifle in that caliber for everyone. Don't know enough about the recoil factor for regular troops. I know it will cost more. Personally I think they got it right decades ago with the 308. Should have stuck with that and conducted more PT. Hard to beat it's accuracy, barrel life, and knockdown power. No matter how many times they try an reinvent that wheel it still checks alot of boxes IMO.
The best Marine Corps weapon is and always will be the M14.
 
The best Marine Corps weapon is and always will be the M14.

Definitely one of my favorites. I have a SOCOM, SCOUT, and Classic. I understand they are heavy and not everyone likes them. However I love them and would never sell them. If someone could only have one the scout is a great all around gun.
 
AR-10 is 7.62 not 5.56
The article, had you actually read it, compares the new round to an AR-15. Here’s the headline.

”New assault rifle being sold to civilians is twice as powerful as the AR-15 and capable of shooting through bulletproof vests, report says”

The 7.62 goes back to the 50’s, so nothing new there.

The SPEAR, initially offered in .277 FURY (6.8 x 51) is easily converted to both 7.62 NATO and 6.5 Creedmoor.
 
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0.277 Sig Fury (about 7mm) is the new cartridge, not 7.62 (0.308)

It's a 6.8x51. It's an intermediate caliber like the 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel and not an AR-10 like the 6.5 Creedmoor or 308. The 6.5 grendel and 6.5 Creedmoor are both 6.5 but do have not the same capabilities. That's like comparing a 243 win to a 6mm ARC. Will it be more effective than the 5.56 out side of urban conflict? Yes but that's not saying much. The person writing the article is trying to scare people without understanding ballistics and whats already available. Failure drills and optics defeat all body armor so there's that factoid for liberals to chew on.

Look forward to seeing the real training and operational barrel life and how expensive that gets. There alot of calibers that are ballistically better than the 5.56 and 308. However they eat barrels. So this might end up being an expensive adventure.
 
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The concept of the ,277 fury isn't new. They have been playing with the 6.8 for awhile. It may work out. Obviously the government isn't going to pay Sig 8,000 dollars a gun however it will be more than previous guns and ammo cost. I would like to see what the barrel life will be. The 6.5 grendel has been out for almost twenty years now. Should have went to that along time ago. Guess we will see. I think going to the Sig Sauer pistol they are currently using was not a good move. But that just my preference and I'm sure the younger generation likes it because it ways less than the Beretta or 1911.


They still got some work to do.





Why Troops say the XM-7 is a total disaster​

 
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