Look at the strength of schedule for the most over rated team this year. Washington played their first game against a decent team and lost. Both should drop below WVU this week. 0-12
Michigan gets curbed stomped on its first game on the road agianst an average team
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I'll be surprised if you jump ahead of both Michigan or Washington. WVU struggled against a marginal Texas team I'll be surprised if you crack the top 10. No disrespect but no way Clemson, Michigan, Washington with 1 loss moves lower than WVU with 1 loss
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Michigan didn't show up to play. Loss won't hurt them, as they still control their own destiny. Win out, which will be a tall task, and they'll make the playoff.
I've watched more college football this year than I have in years and I've seen every WVU game this year. I will probably take some flak for saying it but I don't believe WVU is one of the ten best teams in the country regardless what the polls say. Top 15 maybe.....but certainly not a playoff caliber team IMHO.
I dont disagree with your prediction of the CFB playoff ranks but Michigan lost on the road to a team probably equal to Texas.
I totally agree with this. I'm happy we're 8-1. It's better than I thought we would be but a top 10 team we are not.
Going in to Saturday, Iowa, Texas and Pitt were all 5-4. Basically they are similar teams in regards to how good they are. It is no big deal that Clemson and Michigan lost but WVU does not get credit for taking care of business? Washington has beat one good team and played a horrible schedule. There is no reason we should be ranked any lower than 10th or be behind Penn State.
You play in a league with ZERO defense so his national leading rushing stats mean very little to anyone outside the B12.
Link to prove it? My point is idiot the B12 is known for high octane offenses and ZERO defense, the gaudy offensive stats the B12 throws up are often taken with a grain of salt. Furthermore, the B12 is the 5th ranked conference in the country so outside of Oklahoma right now no one is being taken seriously, and at this point they're a long shot. The reason WVU is ranked below numerous 2 loss teams is you have no signature win vs anyone of note. Beat Oklahoma and you can begin your argument, lose and it's just a nice season for you to build off.
You have a SOS rank of 90, 2 2 loss teams ranked ahead of you makes sense and I agree with based off who they've played and beat
Wisconsin 40th
Penn state 11th
Washington I'll give you with a SOS of 140 or so. I think they're overrated also.
Here's the link I used to get my info from in case you're wondering, idiot
http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/ncaaf_pac12_Men.html
http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/ncaaf_pac12_Men.html
Are you referring to the same Texas team who was beat by Cal? The same Cal team who was beat by SDSU and destroyed by Washington? And you really think UT would best PSU by 45? lol you're an idiot
Your posts in this thread set a new standard for pure stupidity. Maybe, fat ass Foreman would run for 300 yards against tOSU, but he'd have to carry the ball 100 times to do it. Did you take up a crystal meth habit over the weekend?
You've completely lost your mind, 82. Ohio State embarrassed the Big 12's best team, and no more than two Big 12 schools play any defense at all. If the B1G is "soft," then what is the powder puff Big 12?
If the B10 is soft as toilet paper than the B12 is the babies ass they're wiping it with.
The top team in the B12 lost to a non ranked UH team and the top ranked big10 team. I see no way the B12 gets in barring a collapse of many, many teams.
Has no bearing on my statement whatsoever ... the best team in the Big12 hasn't been determined yet.
At the time OPINION was that it was Oklahoma
Opinion is really all that matters considering it's the "opinion" of a panel that picks.
If all goes to plan and those favored win out the final 4 will be BAMA, UofL, Clemson, and the winner of the OSU-UM game. But Wisconsin or PSU can slip in even with 2 losses, UW can slip in with 1. The only way WVU or OU get in is if there are no more 1 loss teams left and a few of the higher ranked 2 loss teams suddenly lose 3.
Doubtful that'll happen
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Now the entire thought that provoked this has gone completely off the rails.
It would be great if some of you guys could keep a constant thought in your heads ... but let's recap.
To which I said that the top team in the B12 is yet to be determined.
Now it's turned into a discussion on the opinions of the playoff committee and how that's chosen.
Let's go back again ... "the top team in the B12 lost to a non ranked UH team and the top ranked big10 team" ... the team that lost those games was Oklahoma, but they may not be the best team in the B12. At the time ... it was the OPINION of many that they WERE GOING TO BE the best team in the B12. They could very well lose 2 more games.
If they do that, it will be proven that they AREN'T the best team in the B12 and therefore the thought that "the top team in the B12 lost to a non ranked UH team and the top ranked big10 team" would be disproven.
The shit I have the spell out for you guys is ridiculous.
OU is the top team in the B12 right now. They're the only team without a loss in the B12. That's not hard to figure out. Since they are the best team in the B12 they have losses by a G5, and a B10 team.
OSU the second best team in the B12, also a loss to a G5 school
We can only talk about the past and current state of the B12, we can talk about the future until after it happens. :sunglasses:
OSU the second best team in the B12, also a loss to a G5 school
We can only talk about the past and current state of the B12, we can talk about the future until after it happens. :sunglasses:
The records aren't opinions, WhiteFail. Let's review:
Big 12 Conference
Oklahoma 7-0
Oklahoma State 6-1
West Virginia 5-1
Yes, Oklahoma is the best team in the Big 12, and the numbers prove it. Until somebody in the Big 12 beats Oklahoma, your lame argument fails.
Big 12 Conference
Oklahoma 7-0Oklahoma State 6-1West Virginia 5-1Yes, Oklahoma is the best team in the Big 12, and the numbers prove it. Until somebody in the Big 12 beats Oklahoma, your lame argument fails.
OSU didn't lose to a G5 school. They had more points when the clock hit zero ... they won ... then the officials made up a rule that resulted in an extra play that shouldn't have happened.
Yes, OU is the top team in the B12 right now, but before you said they were the BEST team in the B12 ... there's a big difference there, especially when that determination was made before a single B12 game had even been played.
The records aren't opinions, WhiteFail. Let's review:
Big 12 Conference
Yes, Oklahoma is the best team in the Big 12, and the numbers prove it. Until somebody in the Big 12 beats Oklahoma, your lame argument fails.
Everybody gets a chance to play everybody else ... the end of the season will reveal who the best team in the B12 is.
I like that about the B12, we don't get to duck all the good teams in our conference to protect the big names like the B10 does.
Who exactly has Ohio State "ducked?" The Buckeyes have played Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Northwestern in the B1G West, and missed the lousy teams in that division, such as Purdue and Illinois. Wrong season to make that lame argument. Further, Oklahoma is the best Big 12 team as of today, and this FACT cuts you deeply, I see.
I didn't say Ohio State now did I? Apparently that cut a little too deep for you to immediately take offense to it. LOL
I see you don't understand what the word "FACT" means like so many of your Marshall brethren.
I wish there was a pill to make you smarter, but you're stuck being an idiot your whole life. It's OK, there's plenty of the rest of us to do the important work.
Using that logic, I could have argued that Va Tech was the best team in the ACC on 14 October since they had no conference losses at that point.
Marine & I continue to argue facts and figures, and the delusional WVU homer fans continue to predict the future. Beat Oklahoma by 21 points, then tell me how great WVU is. WVU still hasn't beaten a ranked team, and Saturday night's game will be its last chance to do so during the regular season, due to the weakness of this year's Big 12.
Iowa knocked off third-ranked Michigan with just 66 passing yards.
Pitt stunned second-ranked Clemson with a kicker surnamed, off all things, Blewitt.
And Ole Miss toppled eighth-ranked Texas A&M with a freshman quarterback donning 20 as his jersey number.
This was the weekend of chaos that the Big 12 had been longing for. LikeAdoree' Jackson's backflip commemorating USC's takedown of No. 4 Washington, the college football world was turned on its head, as No. 2, No. 3 and No. 4 lost on the same day for the first time in 31 years.
West Virginia, according to FiveThirtyEight, would have a 26 percent shot of making the playoff by defeating Oklahoma, Iowa State and Baylor to finish 11-1. But that number would jump up to 40 percent with a Louisville loss to Houston.
Pitt stunned second-ranked Clemson with a kicker surnamed, off all things, Blewitt.
And Ole Miss toppled eighth-ranked Texas A&M with a freshman quarterback donning 20 as his jersey number.
This was the weekend of chaos that the Big 12 had been longing for. LikeAdoree' Jackson's backflip commemorating USC's takedown of No. 4 Washington, the college football world was turned on its head, as No. 2, No. 3 and No. 4 lost on the same day for the first time in 31 years.
West Virginia, according to FiveThirtyEight, would have a 26 percent shot of making the playoff by defeating Oklahoma, Iowa State and Baylor to finish 11-1. But that number would jump up to 40 percent with a Louisville loss to Houston.
You argue your opinions. Your opinion is the OU is the best team in the B12. That is not a fact as they have yet to play OSU and WVU. We only have to win by 1 to go to 9-1 and jump all the 2 loss teams.
