Louisville And ACC Way Overrated
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Non P5 teams are routinely disrespected. Houston is the real deal, just like so many of the old Big East teams were the real deal. The media will never acknowledge it but on the field results and players in the pros do not lie.
I doubt that Acc fans really care about what fans from the big 12 think. Clemson did beat Auburn and FSU beat ole miss. Both these wins are better than anything the big 12 can claim in occ play. Louisville losing to Houston does not make the Acc look good but Houston smoked Oklahoma which is currently atop the Big 12.
Navy is good and SMU is a .500 team. Hardly earth shattering losses. Again, the routine disrespect to anyone outside of the top 25 is laughable. CFB is basically this
Tier 1 #1 and #2
Tier 2 #3 - #5
Tier 3 #6 - #20
Tier 4 #21 - #80
Tier 5 #81 - #120something
The top of FCS figure into Tier 4 somewhere, and teams within 1 tier of each other beat each other all of the time, with complete regularity regardless of whatever conference flag they fly.
Houston when healthy is as good as anyone in the country and yes they lost to Navy who is pretty good and SMU which is a little confusing but Right now Houston would give Penn St., Ohio St, Michigan, Oklahoma, WVU, Washington, Clemson, Florida St. even Alabama all they would want. I think if you put them in the BIG West , SEC East, PAC 12, Big 12 they might win those conferences or divisions
Houston was legit this year but they were also wildly inconsistent. I know injuries played into that which shows the difference between a Big XII and an American/ACC team. They just don't have the depth outside of FSU or Clemson to withstand injuries. That's what we lacked in 2012 and 2013. Houston can beat anyone (maybe sans Alabama) on a given night but they can also lose to anyone. Louisville was much in that same boat. FSU was incredibly overrated when they got spanked by the Cards and since that one game, Louisville was propped up to be one of the top 4. No one batted an eye with the Clemson loss because "it wasn't ugly like those hicks at WVU losing by 17."
The Big XII is obviously having a down year because injuries, coaching changes and graduation all came together at the wrong time for several schools. WVU still could finish 8-4 just as likely as going 11-1 because this conference is not miles apart from 1-9 (Kansas is just bad). The competition is still there, but just because Baylor, TCU and OU have lost games, the Big XII is not considered legit. I beg to differ as I have seen several teams with tons of talent that in a year will be VERY good, including our own if we retain our staff.
That version last night would. UH reminds me of RRods WVU teams. When we were on we were unstoppable, but we always had 1 or two awful loses every year.
Yea that is a good comparison. I have become a fan of Houston the last 2 years, I like the coach and I think if he stays at UH they will be tough for years to come. I think they play great football and the recruits in that Houston area are unreal. I am a Penn State fan who is ranked #8 right now and I would not want to play Houston. I get scoffed at over on the PSU board but i think the BIG should look at Houston if they expand. Huge TV market, very solid athletics program, Big State School
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I don't really see much relevance to a one time zone difference makes. We make that trip once every two or so weeks. In my professional career I would do that and a 3rd/4th time zone a few times each week. No big deal.
A loss is a Loss no matter what the score is. No big 12 team has an OOC win of any significance.
I'm not arguing that. You stated Houston "smoked" OU when it wasn't anywhere close to true. OU was beaten, and the game wasn't in doubt, but OU was much, much more competitive in that game than Louisville was at any point last night.
The Houston Oklahoma game was close in the 1st half not so much in the 2nd Half. Oklahoma scored a late TD to make the score more respectable but the game was pretty much over mid way through the 3rd quarter. Oklahoma is a blue blood and should have the resources to compete for the national championship on most years. They shouldn't be losing to the likes of Houston. The only teams that benefited from Louisville's loss where Big ten teams, Sec teams and maybe the pac 12. It didn't do anything to help the big 12's cause. Attacking the Acc is pointless considering the big 12 has no wins of any significance. If the big 12 wants respect from the committee then it should stop losing Ooc games to Stanford,AZ State,Cal,Arkansas,OSU,CMU.
I have to laugh when people make the statement "no significant wins". Every win is significant by seasons end. It's the difference between a team having a winning record or mediocre record.
I listen to sports radio through the day in my office. One guys say the committee values significant wins; next guy says it's "good losses"; another guy says you have to pass the "eye test".
So a team that has a significant win, while not getting beaten badly in their losses, who also plays hard and is well coached should be in the running. So why isn't BYU ranked? They meet all the criteria.
So if a team from the mac or other non power five conference goes undefeated and gets to the playoff over a 1 loss power five team then at least we know you won't be complaining.
You should start protesting the lack of respect Western Michigan is receiving. They deserve to be in the playoff more than any of the teams mentioned on here. 10-0. all significant wins by your logic.
Go hug your "significant win" and at seasons end would you rather have a 6-5 team with "significant wins" or a 10-1 team and conference title win no "significant win?" Which is very possibly where the Mountaineers could be at seasons end.
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The new system is biased just like the old system. Until we go to an 8 team format and let the players play to sort out who is best it won't change
Right on point! Comparing the Oklahoma loss to Houston to the Houston drubbing of Louisville is laughable.
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You need to learn football. You've embarrassed yourself enough.
What ever you say punisheer. Can you please tell me one significant win a Big 12 team has in OOC play this year? See you next season sucker
Trying to rip the Acc when the big 12 hasn't won a significant occ game this season is laughable.
Ole Miss 5-5
Auburn 7-3
Color me not impressed.
Big 12 wins (since you think ACC is a god)
Pitt
BYU
Just as good as the 2 you show. Ole Miss and Auburn would have a tough time with BYU.
Auburn and ole miss actually play good teams. Never said the acc was good but Byu isn't that good and pitt is slightly better than average
Last time you sent me a vine was before the okie state game. You decided to say hello today look what happens. your sure do bring bad luck upon yourself. BTW how's that crow tasting?
Hank, Im not sure about the crow since im not eating any. Nice try though. I never said anything about winning against Oklahoma.
Hey punish you know how to pick em each time you try to blow Dana's horn he gets exposed.
Um ok, Hank lol. Dana is still 13-3 in the last 16 games and 8-2 this year. Stop embarrassing yourself lol
