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Lockdowns only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2%, study finds: 'Lockdowns should be rejected out of hand'....

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So lockdowns put people out of work and caused businesses to shut down. They caused more deaths than they saved lives and the masks do nothing. Also, leftist leaders didn't abide by their own lockdown and mask policies. They just enforced them on us peasants and our children, as shown and proven time and time again. You know. Rules for thee but not for me?

"That's some solid leadership right there! Baaaaahhh." -The Bleating Sheep

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Lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe, according to a Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies.
 
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And the vaccine doesn't stop the spread...... so let's let them mandate things that dont work ...
Cant make this up . Wonder what history will say about the last couple years?
 
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Can you imagine a private sector employee being this wrong on so many things? A CEO would get a multimillion umbrella & let go immediately while us working stiffs would just get fired...
 
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So lockdowns put people out of work and caused businesses to shut down. They caused more deaths than they saved and the masks do nothing. Also, leftist leaders didn't abide by their own lockdown and mask policies. They just enforced them on us peasants and our children, as shown and proven time and time again. You know. Rules for thee but not for me?

"That's some solid leadership right there! Baaaaahhh." -The Bleating Sheep

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Lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe, according to a Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies.
where are all the sheeples saying that Johns Hopkins is a useless form of information?
 
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And the vaccine doesn't stop the spread...... so let's let them mandate things that dont work ...
Cant make this up . Wonder what history will say about the last couple years?
That it was nothing but a giant scam.
 
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So lockdowns put people out of work and caused businesses to shut down. They caused more deaths than they saved and the masks do nothing. Also, leftist leaders didn't abide by their own lockdown and mask policies. They just enforced them on us peasants and our children, as shown and proven time and time again. You know. Rules for thee but not for me?

"That's some solid leadership right there! Baaaaahhh." -The Bleating Sheep

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Lockdowns during the first COVID-19 wave in the spring of 2020 only reduced COVID-19 mortality by .2% in the U.S. and Europe, according to a Johns Hopkins University meta-analysis of several studies.
Shut downs were put in place while Trump was in office, and no one is arguing for lock downs now. So...
 
Shut downs were put in place while Trump was in office, and no one is arguing for lock downs now. So...

It was Dem governors who pushed the draconian bullshit. PA/NY/MICH/NJ, all lockdown Governors - multiple lockdowns.

NY still has a statewide mask mandate...as you are aware.
 
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It was Dem governors who pushed the draconian bullshit. PA/NY/MICH/NJ, all lockdown Governors - multiple lockdowns.

NY still has a statewide mask mandate...as you are aware.
The topic was shut downs, which no one is advocating for now. So, its a meaningless topic.
 
Shut downs were put in place while Trump was in office, and no one is arguing for lock downs now. So...

LINK: Trump says nationwide lockdown would ‘ultimately inflict more harm than it would prevent

PUBLISHED MON, AUG 3 20206:06 PM EDTUPDATED MON, AUG 3 20206:57 PM EDT

President Donald Trump insisted Monday that shutting down the United States in an attempt to curb the coronavirus would cause more harm than good, doubling down on previous comments that he would not call for a nationwide lockdown.

“It’s important for all Americans to recognize that a permanent lockdown is not a viable path forward producing the result that you want or certainly not a viable path forward and would ultimately inflict more harm than it would prevent,” Trump said during a White House briefing on the virus.

He said the U.S. only initially shut down to prevent the overflow of hospitals and to allow U.S. health officials and scientists to learn more about the new virus, including developing effective treatments to fight it. He said the U.S. is doing “really well” on developing coronavirus drugs and vaccines.

“Lockdowns do not prevent infection in the future. They just don’t. It comes back many times, it comes back,” Trump said.

While Trump said he would not shut down the U.S., he urged Americans to stay “vigilant” against the coronavirus as U.S. officials begin to see new “flare-ups,” including in states like Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Oklahoma and Missouri. Trump said there are 18 states that have reported low coronavirus cases and positivity rates below 5%, including New Jersey, Connecticut and New York, once seen as the nation’s epicenter at the beginning of the outbreak.

“In our current phase, we must focus on protecting those at highest risk while allowing younger and healthier Americans to resume work and school with careful precautions. Ideally we want to open those schools. We want to open them,” he said.

State lawmakers, rather than the federal government, have imposed harsh restrictions on residents and businesses throughout the nation’s coronavirus response. But with the U.S. economy straining under the social distancing rules, Trump has loudly called on the country to reopen.

Trump has insisted that he wouldn’t close the country if a second wave of coronavirus cases emerged. Instead, the U.S. will “put out the fires” as they arise. In recent weeks he’s pushed for schools to reopen in the fall regardless the state of the nation’s Covid-19 outbreak, saying that keeping schools closed “is causing death also.”

The World Health Organization has previously warned that countries with rapidly spreading coronavirus outbreaks might have to reinstate lockdowns to curb the virus’ spread, even those that were once successful when reopening. White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci has suggested some states hit the “reset button” and pause or roll back reopenings if cases climb.

Earlier on Monday, Fauci warned the rate of coronavirus tests that have come back positive in some states outside of the southern region of the nation is beginning to increase. It’s the same “insidious” rise that the Sun Belt region saw a month or so ago before cases surged, he said.

Fauci said states should take a “serious” reexamination of where they are in the process of reopening. “You may need to pause, you may need to drop back a little bit. I don’t think you necessarily have to revert to go all the way back to reclosing,” he said Monday.
 
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That's debatable

What's not debatable is that leftists used COVID as a political tool. They didn't follow their own guidelines, which should tell you something, if you are free-thinking and not part of the flock. They're doing everything they can to keep it going, like in New York and other leftist cities.

Free-thinkers, though, are exposing the leftist hypocrisies, lies and scams. Only a bleater would turn a blind eye to the truth, in fear of hurting their "team".....
 
That's debatable, but its not debatable that time has passed.
No Sir it's not "debatable". The non existent reasons for locking this entire economy down over that virus are STILL as non existent today as they were back when Fauci & you fear mongers on the Left first started with this scam.

All that's passed is time, and hard proof now it was all nothing but a giant fear porn scam! YOU just can't admit that now, so to you it's perhaps "debatable"...but your opinion on that is not based on the hard cold facts. (masks didn't work, lockdowns didn't work, quarantines didn't work, and those so called vaccines didn't work)

In fact nothing you say ever is based in provable facts. Lies? Yes. Facts?
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What's not debatable is that leftists used COVID as a political tool. They didn't follow their own guidelines, which should tell you something, if you are free-thinking and not part of the flock. They're doing everything they can to keep it going, like in New York and other leftist cities.

Free-thinkers, though, are exposing the leftist hypocrisies, lies and scams. Only a bleater would turn a blind eye to the truth, in fear of hurting their "team".....
Exactly!
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its not debatable that time has passed.
This is the only thing you said I agree with that is based in fact and just so happens to be true. However time has exposed the giant scam this entire Covid hype has turned out to be, and it's time that YOU recognize what that elapsed time has allowed the facts about it to prove.

Question for you which you can either answer correctly or avoid. What is the survival rate of all patients who've been infected with Covid? Do you know? There is a correct answer if you don't know it.

Once you find that answer, post it here, then explain to us why it was necessary to shut down the entire U.S. economy over such a small possibility of fatality from a novel (more contagious) cold virus? It wasn't even as fatal as the Influenza virus in all of its various strains when you compare the hard numbers.

Fact.
 
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@NYC_Eer ...just FYI


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An estimated 32 million Americans have come down with influenza since this year’s flu season began in late September, resulting in about 18,000 deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

In contrast, as of Thursday, health officials have confirmed 97,876 cases of coronavirus infection resulting in 3,347 deaths across the entire globe.

*editor's note: this article was a reprint from a year ago...posted here for comparison purposes
 
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Here's another question @NYC_Eer will avoid like the coward he is. Why have we not shut the country down over the "killer" influenza virus which historically over time has proven to be far more deadly than Covid ever has been?

Why are there no "mandates" for Flu vaccines?

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The topic was shut downs, which no one is advocating for now. So, its a meaningless topic.

It's not meaningless.

People were harmed by them. That means something. There should be accountability. It isnt something we should forget simply because they are done with them - for now.
 
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LINK: Trump says nationwide lockdown would ‘ultimately inflict more harm than it would prevent

PUBLISHED MON, AUG 3 20206:06 PM EDTUPDATED MON, AUG 3 20206:57 PM EDT

President Donald Trump insisted Monday that shutting down the United States in an attempt to curb the coronavirus would cause more harm than good, doubling down on previous comments that he would not call for a nationwide lockdown.

“It’s important for all Americans to recognize that a permanent lockdown is not a viable path forward producing the result that you want or certainly not a viable path forward and would ultimately inflict more harm than it would prevent,” Trump said during a White House briefing on the virus.

He said the U.S. only initially shut down to prevent the overflow of hospitals and to allow U.S. health officials and scientists to learn more about the new virus, including developing effective treatments to fight it. He said the U.S. is doing “really well” on developing coronavirus drugs and vaccines.

“Lockdowns do not prevent infection in the future. They just don’t. It comes back many times, it comes back,” Trump said.

While Trump said he would not shut down the U.S., he urged Americans to stay “vigilant” against the coronavirus as U.S. officials begin to see new “flare-ups,” including in states like Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Oklahoma and Missouri. Trump said there are 18 states that have reported low coronavirus cases and positivity rates below 5%, including New Jersey, Connecticut and New York, once seen as the nation’s epicenter at the beginning of the outbreak.

“In our current phase, we must focus on protecting those at highest risk while allowing younger and healthier Americans to resume work and school with careful precautions. Ideally we want to open those schools. We want to open them,” he said.

State lawmakers, rather than the federal government, have imposed harsh restrictions on residents and businesses throughout the nation’s coronavirus response. But with the U.S. economy straining under the social distancing rules, Trump has loudly called on the country to reopen.

Trump has insisted that he wouldn’t close the country if a second wave of coronavirus cases emerged. Instead, the U.S. will “put out the fires” as they arise. In recent weeks he’s pushed for schools to reopen in the fall regardless the state of the nation’s Covid-19 outbreak, saying that keeping schools closed “is causing death also.”

The World Health Organization has previously warned that countries with rapidly spreading coronavirus outbreaks might have to reinstate lockdowns to curb the virus’ spread, even those that were once successful when reopening. White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci has suggested some states hit the “reset button” and pause or roll back reopenings if cases climb.

Earlier on Monday, Fauci warned the rate of coronavirus tests that have come back positive in some states outside of the southern region of the nation is beginning to increase. It’s the same “insidious” rise that the Sun Belt region saw a month or so ago before cases surged, he said.

Fauci said states should take a “serious” reexamination of where they are in the process of reopening. “You may need to pause, you may need to drop back a little bit. I don’t think you necessarily have to revert to go all the way back to reclosing,” he said Monday.
Shame on Trump for being so completely and utterly right.
 
That's debatable, but its not debatable that time has passed.
I heard a talking head former HOR from Tenn say that you it only save 1800 it was worth it. Nobody asked him about all the suicides, drug overdoses, murder increases as a result. Was it worth it? No it wasn't. Believe the science
 
I heard a talking head former HOR from Tenn say that you it only save 1800 it was worth it. Nobody asked him about all the suicides, drug overdoses, murder increases as a result. Was it worth it? No it wasn't. Believe the science
More than that die from the open border policy from this & previous administrations not named Trump.
 
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