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Jill Stein said that Castro was a "symbol in the struggle for justice"

Castro was a symbol of the struggle for justice. He symbolized the kind of tyrants who oppose justice.

I just cannot understand that kind of thinking. She must be living on a completely different planet. And she was not the only one. Many Democrats and far left liberal's sent condolences
 
What planet do these lefties live on? I am overwhelmed over her naiveté and stupidity. Just how far left is the Dem party becoming? Lavishing praise on brutal dictators simply because of their political ideology, communism?


http://www.mediaite.com/online/jill...-castro-a-symbol-of-the-struggle-for-justice/
I would not disagree with that belief. The operative word has to be "WAS". When he came out of the mountains following the Batista overthrow, there was dancing in the streets of Cuba. Shortly thereafter, all professional people were in a dead run out of Cuba to avoid Castro imprisonment on their way to Miami. Cuba became the partner of USSR. Freedom by the working man never became the reality that was sold to them in effort to depose Batista. Rest of Cuba / US relationship is history of Fidel as a leader.
 
Uh, the whole premise of your argument is based on a falsehood. Nice try though.

Inthoroughly disagree. I think the Democrat party is moving extremely far to the left. For God sake look at how many votes Bernie Sanders got. And avowed socialist. and the various minorities that make up the Democrat party are clearly very far to the left.
 
Jill Stein is a weirdo just like Gary Johnson.

You may want to check out Jimmy Carter's comments.



No mention of the political prisoners. No mention of the death squads. No mention of the oppression of religion.
 
You may want to check out Jimmy Carter's comments.



No mention of the political prisoners. No mention of the death squads. No mention of the oppression of religion.

Jimmy Carter might be suffering from Alzheimers. Only way to explain that one.
 
The far left is losing touch. Hard to imagine any scenario where a brutal dictator who kept his country from progressing for 40 years or more is honored or celebrated. Just truly amazing.
 
Why would you mention those things in a condolence message? smh
"We would like to send our condolences to the people of Germany on the passing of your beloved leader, Adolf Hitler. He was a man of great vision who united his country for a common goal."

Seems appropriate, huh?
 
"We would like to send our condolences to the people of Germany on the passing of your beloved leader, Adolf Hitler. He was a man of great vision who united his country for a common goal."

Seems appropriate, huh?
We have freedom of speech in this country and if that's a message that you wanted to communicate then no one would stop you. Condolence messages are best sent soon after someone dies though.
 
We have freedom of speech in this country and if that's a message that you wanted to communicate then no one would stop you. Condolence messages are best sent soon after someone dies though.
Who's saying Carter doesn't have a right to send whatever message he wants? The question is whether the message is appropriate or not. It is clearly inappropriate. Castro brutalized his own people. Carter celebrates his life. It's interesting you have no problem celebrating Castro's life...or Hitler's evidently.
 
Who's saying Carter doesn't have a right to send whatever message he wants? The question is whether the message is appropriate or not. It is clearly inappropriate. Castro brutalized his own people. Carter celebrates his life. It's interesting you have no problem celebrating Castro's life...or Hitler's evidently.
Relax, I'm sure that others will join you in your whining.
 
Relax, I'm sure that others will join you in your whining.
Who's whining? But have you noticed how often you turn to insults when it dawns on you your position is the indefensible?
 
Who's whining? But have you noticed how often you turn to insults when it dawns on you your position is the indefensible?
You're whining, that's who. I could give two shits if Jimmy Carter sent that message. That's "my position". I hope that you can recover from the news of Carter's message.
 
You're whining, that's who. I could give two shits if Jimmy Carter sent that message. That's "my position". I hope that you can recover from the news of Carter's message.
I'm not whining. I'm discussing. You're insulting because your arguments are untenable. And your multiple posts contradicts the notion you don't care.
 
I'm not whining. I'm discussing. You're insulting because your arguments are untenable. And your multiple posts contradicts the notion you don't care.
The only "argument" that I made was in favor of free speech. Since you don't support free speech then I understand why you are being critical of the former president. I continue to not care that he sent the message.
 
The only "argument" that I made was in favor of free speech. Since you don't support free speech then I understand why you are being critical of the former president. I continue to not care that he sent the message.

Carter is embodies what is wrong with the left. Ignoring what is wrong with totalitarianism. We should have killed him back in the 60's.
 
The only "argument" that I made was in favor of free speech. Since you don't support free speech then I understand why you are being critical of the former president. I continue to not care that he sent the message.

Why would you mention those things in a condolence message? smh
No, you didn't argue initially for free speech. You argued mentioning Castro's human rights abuses was not appropriate in Carter's condolences. When I used an analogy to demonstration how preposterous it is to send condolences for a brutal dictator, you then made an argument about free speech in this country (which is ironic since Castro terminated free speech in Cuba). When I pointed out the argument has nothing to do with free speech but the propriety of sending condolences for a brutal dictator you turned to insults. Now you say I'm against free speech. Clearly you are confused. One can be critical of another's speech without believing the other has no right to speak. Having a right to free speech does not mean one is free from criticism concerning what one says.
 
No, you didn't argue initially for free speech. You argued mentioning Castro's human rights abuses was not appropriate in Carter's condolences. When I used an analogy to demonstration how preposterous it is to send condolences for a brutal dictator, you then made an argument about free speech in this country (which is ironic since Castro terminated free speech in Cuba). When I pointed out the argument has nothing to do with free speech but the propriety of sending condolences for a brutal dictator you turned to insults. Now you say I'm against free speech. Clearly you are confused. One can be critical of another's speech without believing the other has no right to speak. Having a right to free speech does not mean one is free from criticism concerning what one says.
Criticize away. Did you drink your breakfast?
 
I despise Castro and hope he rots in hell. I do hope the Cuban people find peace and one can despise Castro and wish Cubans well. That isn't exclusive and some of the criticisms towards dem leaders are a little unfair, imo. What else is new?

But I was talking to my very liberal son on Saturday and was very surprised of his warped opinion of Castro. I had to remind him that as Americans we do not support dictators that oppressed their people and represented values totally opposite of a free society while prisoning and killing his own people over politics. Don't think it did much good as his mind is very much warped over certain things but it was disturbing.
 
I despise Castro and hope he rots in hell. I do hope the Cuban people find peace and one can despise Castro and wish Cubans well. That isn't exclusive and some of the criticisms towards dem leaders are a little unfair, imo. What else is new?

But I was talking to my very liberal son on Saturday and was very surprised of his warped opinion of Castro. I had to remind him that as Americans we do not support dictators that oppressed their people and represented values totally opposite of a free society while prisoning and killing his own people over politics. Don't think it did much good as his mind is very much warped over certain things but it was disturbing.
It's the moral equivalency. Many believe there is basically no difference between the American treatment of protected classes and Castro's treatment of political dissidents. I'm not surprised your son believes this. The schools heavily promote this view.
 
It's the moral equivalency. Many believe there is basically no difference between the American treatment of protected classes and Castro's treatment of political dissidents. I'm not surprised your son believes this. The schools heavily promote this view.
Totally disagree with your schools comment as it isn't true throughout. I'm sick and tired or generalizations such as this.
 
Totally disagree with your schools comment as it isn't true throughout. I'm sick and tired or generalizations such as this.
Well, since I have many students from many different schools and they seem to consistently have this point-of-view, and since public schools have limited options for texts, and since most opt for Common Core materials I can say that's what's being taught.
 
Well, since I have many students from many different schools and they seem to consistently have this point-of-view, and since public schools have limited options for texts, and since most opt for Common Core materials I can say that's what's being taught.
It isn' t. They are getting crap fed to them off the internet. Same as white supremists and all other radical groups. The propaganda is not in public schools.
 
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and keep patting yourself on the back for some reason.
Where do you see any self-adulation in my statement? Do you mean my reference to you losing an argument? That's not about me.
 
It isn' t. They are getting crap fed to them off the internet. Same as white supremists and all other radical groups. The propaganda is not in public schools.
I'm sorry. It is. Go pick up a public school history book. You may be surprised.
 
Do you know who Jill Stein is? She was the Green Party presidential candidate which is a different political party from Republicans or Democrats.
I CERTAINLY know you are smarter than this.......Please correct me if I am wrong about your intellect.
 
Well, since I have many students from many different schools and they seem to consistently have this point-of-view, and since public schools have limited options for texts, and since most opt for Common Core materials I can say that's what's being taught.
Those who have not read current days text books simply have no way in hell of knowing what is being taught in public schools. A good bit of it is exactly 180 from what was taught in our time. I guess you just need to research to determine which era is wrong. It appears to be that current teaching openly inserts very liberal beliefs. The students have to read and accept what is in current print to pass the course. Don't blame the students for following what adults are approving to be in texts.

Oh, glad to see you were not in Qtr over the weekend. This AM news says none of victims were involved - just bystanders.
 
Where do you see any self-adulation in my statement? Do you mean my reference to you losing an argument? That's not about me.
Yes, you act like you won some argument when there was no argument but keep congratulating yourself as it will probably be the highlight of your day.
 
Yes, you act like you won some argument when there was no argument but keep congratulating yourself as it will probably be the highlight of your day.
There is nothing self-congratulatory about my statements. They are about your regular habit of wading into discussions without a sound argument then hurling insults when your point is refuted.
 
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