After scheduling two MAC teams, a IAA, and possibly the worst P5 team in the country. Keep on whining...
I love the whining of "we can't help our schedule"...
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Yes because we knew 5 years ago, a conference champion would be reduced to trash.
A regional rival who has been a constant winner the last 10 years is a bad choice to play.
A P5 who we played on the back end of a 1 for 1 who when the series was schedule was coming off a bowl game
And a 1AA that you played last year. I guess it was alright for WVU to play Norfolk State
A regional rival who has been a constant winner the last 10 years is a bad choice to play.
A P5 who we played on the back end of a 1 for 1 who when the series was schedule was coming off a bowl game
And a 1AA that you played last year. I guess it was alright for WVU to play Norfolk State
We're not whining ..just beating who lines up in front of us! It's the WVU chorus that whines about who we beat....we don't worry about stuff we can't control!
I thought your AD scheduled down so Doc could get some wins!!! So mooU did control their schedule!!
We played a P-5, a I-AA ( just like WVU does), and a regional rival ( just like WVU does)....who do you want us to play OOC? 'bama, Ohio State and the NE Patriots?
no...just continue scheduling like you have been! I really don't care who mooU schedules or plays tony....I like the comedy that some of obsessed mooU fellas post here...I would not be on a WVU message board beating my chest if I were a mooU fan...tony do you see the comedy in that?
The MU fans I see on the board understand that our schedule is soft but they also understand the reasons behind that fact. It's the WVU boys that attempt to demean MU's victories, while they post loss after loss. Do you not see the comedy in that phenonmenon?
I only see the mooU boys on the WVU message board after a WVU loss...they seem to come out of the woodwork like cockroaches!! Don't you see the comedy in that tony? You want to defend them?... the mooU phenomenon know as "Little Man Syndrome".
Do you seriously not see the difference in NEEDING to play a brutal OOC schedule, to make up for an awful conference (like Boise state does, and Marshall needs to) and playing a brutal conference schedule and using your OOC as your easy games? You are smarter than that, Tony...
I don't demean the victories, but call out the mentality of being perfectly happy with such a shitty schedule if it means more victories instead of standing up and measuring yourself against the best.
Good or bad, we know where we stand because we stand up and show it on the field instead of wondering what might have been or what might happen on a message board.
I also didn't run to Penn State's board to tell them they suck when they lost. What can I say to them when we played them every year for decades and only beat them twice in my lifetime? I'd have even less to say if we'd never beat them at all.
That a bit disingenuous Whitetail. First it takes two to dance, no guarantee that 'bama or Ohio Sate would play us in a given year and if they did it would be 8-10 years from now.
Nothing disingenuous about it at all. Step up and play. We laced 'em up against Alabama last year in addition to playing the Big XII schedule. We are getting VT back on the schedule, BYU, Penn St., Pitt, etc. etc. So, on top of playing Okie State, OK, Texas, Oklahoma, TCU, and Baylor every year we are stepping up non-conference as well.
Your problem is that you insist on a home and home and you aren't in a position to be doing that.
Disingenuous is Marshall pointing to Norfolk State and saying "well you guys played them last year". Yes we did, but we also played Alabama and UMD OOC on top of the Big XII schedule.
OOC without a return game ....seems shortsighted to me! Even if we played Ohio Sate without a return game , which we've done several times probably couldn't be scheduled until 2026.
That's why you schedule way in advance ... You were in the MAC and then CUSA, the administration would have had to have known that to get any serious respect you'd have to schedule up but you didn't. We tried and tried to get Penn St. back on the schedule and finally got it for '23-'24.
You should have been scheduling up for these years back in 2005-2006. Why didn't you?
Maybe because we thought we'd be playing a ranked Memphis club ( legit), a ranked Houston squad( legit) and a ranked Temple bunch ( suspect). Sorry we don't have a crystal ball!
Not a single one of those is more than a flash in the pan type of team. You don't see them consistently in the Top 25, and you guys don't go after any of them that are.
Memphis is for real, their QB is awesome! Houston can score but Temple I'm selling short!
Ain't nothing weak about Memphis...check 'em out, their Coach may reside in Morgantown next season!
Like WhiteTailEER said, they are a flash in the pan. If you can predict a flash games in the pan, five years before it happens, can I get some stock picks or lottery numbers?
If you want to prove yourself (which obviously Marshall doesn't), then do neutral site games. We've played JMU at FedEx field, we'll be playing BYU there next year, we played UMD at the Raven's stadium, Alabama in the Georgia Dome, etc.
Reaching AAALLLLL the way up to schedule Memphis? Whew, gutsy.
Appalachian State once beat Michigan. Marshall once beat Kansas State's second string. Upsets happen all the time...
They have the longest current winning streak in the country....sell 'em short a tyour own risk!
Thank you for defining flash in the pan .... so, they're here to stay in 2015? OK, that's one year, they are not a traditional top 25 team, and definitely not a program that you could expect to be in the top 25 5-10 years from now. Flash in the pan.
Even if they are "here to stay" in 2015 ... they aren't on your schedule, nor are they on your schedule at any foreseeable time in the future. So, I'm not sure what your point is, unless it's to say that they would have been on your schedule ... but even if that's your point, it doesn't counter mine at all because here are their rankings back to 2000
mcubed PFPG PAPG
Year Rank Rank Rank Score W L T GWF BLF OW% OOW%
2014 24 22 11 0.641 10 3 0.295 -0.361 42.6 51.5
2013 106 112 46 -2.583 3 9 0.104 -2.158 55.4 47.6
2012 99 88 81 -2.069 4 8 0.099 -1.690 45.5 48.3
2011 118 115 105 -2.791 2 10 0.002 -2.946 44.4 48.8
2010 114 119 117 -2.228 1 11 0.052 -2.444 51.0 46.1
2009 110 96 110 -1.776 2 10 0.039 -1.975 54.5 46.5
2008 98 48 71 -0.943 6 7 0.132 -1.548 43.0 49.9
2007 89 52 97 -0.816 7 6 0.127 -1.495 38.5 49.0
2006 117 60 103 -2.551 2 10 0.062 -2.769 48.1 48.2
2005 78 53 36 -0.351 7 5 0.476 -1.437 49.2 47.5
2004 31 10 90 0.617 8 4 0.296 -0.380 48.0 49.3
2003 56 32 20 0.170 9 4 0.622 -1.178 47.9 48.1
2002 106 71 69 -1.890 3 9 0.086 -2.223 48.9 48.4
2001 75 54 59 -0.366 5 6 0.256 -1.096 50.0 49.1
2000 81 104 13 -0.646 4 7 0.150 -1.246 45.8 49.3
Including last year, they've had FIVE winning seasons in 15 years, and at a glance I would guess an average ranking around 70-ish.
In short, it is foolish to suspect they'll ever have any sustained success.
Let's continue all the way back to 1960
1999 58 89 10 -0.035 5 6 0.177 -0.759 50.8 51.6
1998 94 82 91 -1.219 2 9 0.037 -1.528 52.8 46.8
1997 82 89 44 -0.802 4 7 0.039 -1.288 43.7 48.8
1996 74 109 31 -0.500 4 7 0.328 -1.289 55.4 52.2
1995 82 103 42 -1.031 3 8 0 0.106 -1.502 51.2 49.8
1994 62 98 8 -0.176 6 5 0 0.080 -0.884 37.7 52.0
1993 51 54 33 -0.002 6 5 0 0.139 -0.773 46.1 49.4
1992 45 19 20 0.150 6 5 0 0.163 -0.647 45.8 51.7
1991 57 63 49 -0.137 5 6 0 0.157 -0.842 51.7 50.4
1990 69 82 40 -0.392 4 6 1 0.102 -0.919 51.5 48.8
1989 94 94 87 -1.737 2 9 0 0.007 -1.645 49.1 52.1
1988 68 67 31 -0.411 6 5 0 0.231 -1.214 45.2 52.0
1987 64 72 33 -0.469 5 5 0 0.274 -1.281 45.1 54.8
1986 100 105 77 -2.789 1 10 0 0.003 -2.586 45.8 48.8
1985 71 96 56 -0.798 2 7 1 0.039 -1.128 54.0 50.0
1984 80 77 17 -1.017 5 5 1 0.218 -1.758 45.6 52.0
1983 38 35 41 0.397 6 4 0 0.215 -0.454 46.3 52.6
1982 102 107 87 -2.542 1 10 0 0.000 -2.621 52.9 50.7
1981 119 136 63 -1.755 1 10 0 0.003 -1.943 53.3 50.6
1980 131 134 96 -2.559 2 9 0 0.068 -2.896 42.1 53.7
1979 103 108 82 -1.047 5 6 0 0.140 -1.724 39.2 52.5
1978 88 95 124 -0.638 4 7 0 0.292 -1.388 52.5 50.6
1977 58 80 56 0.163 6 5 0 0.276 -0.752 49.6 52.3
1976 54 46 44 0.070 7 4 0 0.261 -0.912 40.4 52.8
1975 47 94 39 0.515 7 4 0 0.288 -0.496 46.5 49.1
1974 46 62 20 0.390 7 4 0 0.205 -0.541 43.9 54.6
1973 35 37 28 0.650 8 3 0 0.360 -0.524 43.1 52.0
1972 52 35 88 0.151 5 5 1 0.216 -0.652 47.2 48.5
1971 60 35 54 -0.023 5 6 0 0.289 -0.863 54.7 51.6
1970 50 48 40 0.338 6 4 0 0.392 -0.753 48.4 49.9
1969 13 14 51 1.313 8 2 0 0.556 -0.146 49.5 54.1
1968 36 31 41 0.614 6 4 0 0.430 -0.522 56.0 50.3
1967 26 31 58 0.822 6 3 0 0.609 -0.522 59.6 52.7
1966 28 90 19 0.851 7 2 0 0.667 -0.663 48.7 54.2
1965 68 30 55 -0.250 5 5 0 0.408 -1.187 52.0 48.8
1964 84 25 33 -0.583 5 4 0 0.200 -1.274 47.4 45.9
1963 7 27 2 1.382 9 0 1 0.386 -0.025 40.7 52.3
1962 11 3 11 1.308 8 1 0 0.439 -0.000 47.2 49.5
1961 67 3 9 -0.254 8 2 0 0.374 -1.162 43.8 48.1
1960 82 2 24 -0.557 8 2 0 0.217 -1.156 51.5 51.4
There's a LOT of 1-2 win seasons, and many more losing seasons.
Flash. In. The. Pan.
Take a look at your investment portfolio..." past results are no guarantee of future earnings". My point is they have a really good team in 2015. It'll be interesting to see if they run the table if they get in the playoff mix. My hunch is Toledo, in spite of being undefeated with two P-5 wins is going to be left in the cold! But BGSU could beat Toledo in a 69 -68 affair.
Toledo
Stony Brook Sea Wolves
at Arkansas Razorbacks
Iowa State Cyclones
Arkansas State Red Wolves
at Ball State Cardinals
Kent State Golden Flashes
Eastern Michigan Eagles
at UMass Minutemen
Northern Illinois Huskies
at Central Michigan Chippewas
at Bowling Green Falcons
Western Michigan Broncos
MAC Championship Game
You can't possibly be trying to tell me that's a championship team's resume'
Memphis
Missouri State Bears
at Kansas Jayhawks
at Bowling Green Falcons
Cincinnati Bearcats
at USF Bulls
Ole Miss Rebels
at Tulsa Golden Hurricane
Tulane Green Wave
Navy Midshipmen (HC)
at Houston Cougars
at Temple Owls
SMU Mustangs
AAC Championship Game
You can't possibly be trying to tell me that's a championship team's resume'
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