its just here really..not realityI can’t believe people think the PAC and the ACC are going to fold.
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its just here really..not realityI can’t believe people think the PAC and the ACC are going to fold.
Lol- it’s the opinion of most knowledgeable sports writers out there, far from just people here. Even Wilner discusses it when he isn’t trying to lash out at the BIG 12 because he knows what’s up For his league.its just here really..not reality
What is your vested interest in the Big12? It’s not fandom, so what is it?There are some spinners indeed- we see them right here every day, but there Is far more than just opinion happening Unless you have blinders on.
Ah...Bucky's "vested interest in the Big 12" might have something to do with WVU being a member.🤪What is your vested interest in the Big12? It’s not fandom, so what is it?
which ones exactly?Lol- it’s the opinion of most knowledgeable sports writers out there, far from just people here. Even Wilner discusses it when he isn’t trying to lash out at the BIG 12 because he knows what’s up For his league.
The BIG 12 only lost two teams recently and they haven't left yet. Talking about a decade ago before the current configuration is meanignless, especially since the lot of those schools left BECAUSE of one of the schools leaving in a few years.which ones exactly?
Because from the common sense perspective you lost your best 6(mizzou is arguable 6th) best teams. the acc did an even swap (better on field, worse market) and put the clamp on and lost nothing else.
Fandom is exactly what it is.What is your vested interest in the Big12? It’s not fandom, so what is it?
Obviously your reading comprehension is lacking or you only read certain thingsFandom is exactly what it is.
It doesn't go unnoticed shills like you won't state who you root for or why you are shilling on a BIG 12 board/WVU board trying to downrate the BIG 12 and WVU. Obviously your bosses are very afraid of both.
I am and have always been a Mountaineer fan and thus the conference WVU plays in.
The best position of the three still doesn’t mean anything and is not good.The BIG 12 only lost two teams recently and they haven't left yet. Talking about a decade ago before the current configuration is meanignless, especially since the lot of those schools left BECAUSE of one of the schools leaving in a few years.
The PAC was already less valuable, less watched, lower fanbase, not making the playoffs, not competitive in the major sports for the better part of the last decade. How could it be more valuable now with the only market that mattered gone and its top major brands gone?
You've got your head buried in the sand if you have not seen the multiple articles by national writer's and sports media stating the BIG 12 is in the best position of all of the non B10/SEC P5 going forwards for a variety of reasons. Sure the PAC has two or three pundits trying to save the league with disinformation, but it doesn't seem to have worked out very well--it didn't convince anyone since ESPN reportedly just lowballed them despite the tv ratings spin.
so in other words you can't answer my question and can't actually name 1 that isn't named 'the dude' or a baylor/colorado beat writer?The BIG 12 only lost two teams recently and they haven't left yet. Talking about a decade ago before the current configuration is meanignless, especially since the lot of those schools left BECAUSE of one of the schools leaving in a few years.
The PAC was already less valuable, less watched, lower fanbase, not making the playoffs, not competitive in the major sports for the better part of the last decade. How could it be more valuable now with the only market that mattered gone and its top major brands gone?
You've got your head buried in the sand if you have not seen the multiple articles by national writer's and sports media stating the BIG 12 is in the best position of all of the non B10/SEC P5 going forwards for a variety of reasons. Sure the PAC has two or three pundits trying to save the league with disinformation, but it doesn't seem to have worked out very well--it didn't convince anyone since ESPN reportedly just lowballed them despite the tv ratings spin.
Expansion is an incremental process. The reality is the big 12 has lost half its original members. To say what happened in the past means nothing is pure hogwash. The big 12 was much more marketable 20 years ago then it is today. You don't replace the loss of 4 blue bloods with G5 and mid level power 5 teams and come out ahead.The BIG 12 only lost two teams recently and they haven't left yet. Talking about a decade ago before the current configuration is meanignless, especially since the lot of those schools left BECAUSE of one of the schools leaving in a few years.
The PAC was already less valuable, less watched, lower fanbase, not making the playoffs, not competitive in the major sports for the better part of the last decade. How could it be more valuable now with the only market that mattered gone and its top major brands gone?
You've got your head buried in the sand if you have not seen the multiple articles by national writer's and sports media stating the BIG 12 is in the best position of all of the non B10/SEC P5 going forwards for a variety of reasons. Sure the PAC has two or three pundits trying to save the league with disinformation, but it doesn't seem to have worked out very well--it didn't convince anyone since ESPN reportedly just lowballed them despite the tv ratings spin.
I've heard B1G has interest in Stanford, California, Utah, Colorado. They would prefer ND over California which would give them the annual Stanford vs ND game.This is all going to play out, once NBC and Notre Dame either work out a deal or they don't work out a deal. My guess is that they'll likely work out a deal ND will like and accept. If that occurs, then dominos may begin to fall between the Big XII and PAC. It's also possible, based on comments the B1G commissioner made earlier, that they could potentially go after more PAC teams. One rumor, and I emphasize rumor, suggested the B1G may be looking at going after Utah and Colorado next, as opposed to say, Washington and Oregon. Kind of makes sense, if the B1G wanted to stay connected state by state across the entire United States, with the exception of Nevada, which surprisingly, doesn't have a P5 program.
byu is wrong for the big12, byu is wrong for the big12, byu is wrong for the big12. Oh and rootie tootie is owned. 🤣Tyler. Anti Christian. Tylerite. Anti WVU. Tylerite. Bigot.
I don't think the Big 10 or Sec really intends to expand any further in this cycle. When it comes to Notre Dame they have an open invitation to join whatever conference they want. If the Big 10 were to expand with anyone not named ND I'm sure they would want something closer then going back to the west coast. I am not sure anything really meets the criteria at this point. Utah and Colorado don't really meet the big 10's latest criteria but every expansion cycle has been motivated by different sets of criteria. I am sure Utah and Colorado would jump at the opportunity if offered. Its pretty clear that the Sec and Big 10 is the path to stability in todays world of college football. Anything else is only temporary.This is all going to play out, once NBC and Notre Dame either work out a deal or they don't work out a deal. My guess is that they'll likely work out a deal ND will like and accept. If that occurs, then dominos may begin to fall between the Big XII and PAC. It's also possible, based on comments the B1G commissioner made earlier, that they could potentially go after more PAC teams. One rumor, and I emphasize rumor, suggested the B1G may be looking at going after Utah and Colorado next, as opposed to say, Washington and Oregon. Kind of makes sense, if the B1G wanted to stay connected state by state across the entire United States, with the exception of Nevada, which surprisingly, doesn't have a P5 program.
America has always been obsessed with being number 1. The sec and Big 10 are 1A and 1B everyone else is 50 feet of crap below that and will never have stability.The best position of the three still doesn’t mean anything and is not good.
In not playing forum games dumbass. You, Tylerite, are an ignorant, backwoods, anti Christian, bigot who just wastes oxygen.byu is wrong for the big12, byu is wrong for the big12, byu is wrong for the big12. Oh and rootie tootie is owned. 🤣
You’re a joke and everyone knows it. Just because I and the majority of people don’t share your warped sense of reality you resort to crying and lashing out. And what you say about me is not even close to who l am. All you are doing is making assumptions and trying to pass it off as fact. Go back and crawl into your grandma’s basement. I proved you make crap up and everyone saw that. Even though I can keep retorting you, and I proved you wrong, it now has becomes a bore and is wasting my time.In not playing forum games dumbass. You, Tylerite, are an ignorant, backwoods, anti Christian, bigot who just wastes oxygen.
To be honest, none of us really know jack squat about what's really going on with this. As is usually the case, we'll all be surprised when something is actually announced. Makes for decent message board BS banter though, and keeps bucky busy scouring the internet for the latest scoops.I've heard B1G has interest in Stanford, California, Utah, Colorado. They would prefer ND over California which would give them the annual Stanford vs ND game.
I remember reading an article a month ago when they asked a coach about this. He stated he doesn't pay any attention because the majority of the things stated never happen. I see the same scenario starting to play out again.To be honest, none of us really know jack squat about what's really going on with this. As is usually the case, we'll all be surprised when something is actually announced. Makes for decent message board BS banter though, and keeps bucky busy scouring the internet for the latest scoops.
What you have proven Tylerlite is exactly what you are...backwoods, ignorant, anti Christian, bigot.You
You’re a joke and everyone knows it. Just because I and the majority of people don’t share your warped sense of reality you resort to crying and lashing out. And what you say about me is not even close to who l am. All you are doing is making assumptions and trying to pass it off as fact. Go back and crawl into your grandma’s basement. I proved you make crap up and everyone saw that. Even though I can keep retorting you, and I proved you wrong, it now has becomes a bore and is wasting my time.
That comment just shows how stupid you truly are. Cause there is no basis for it. Get a real life.What you have proven Tylerlite is exactly what you are...backwoods, ignorant, anti Christian, bigot.
Funny another ignorant poster can’t even get it right.Funny to see two ACC shills play fighting on a Mountaineer message board in order to try to derail a thread about the ACC GOR.
Yeah I know you two can't get anything right.Funny another ignorant poster can’t even get it right.
Lol, how many times do I have to correct you? And you wonder why posters get tired of your act.Yeah I know you two can't get anything right.
Or are you claiming you shill for someone else besides the ACC? Please tell us more.
Correct me? You’d have to post something besides trolling, shilling or disinformation or derailing such as here first.Lol, how many times do I have to correct you? And you wonder why posters get tired of your act.
Jumping on Bucky will not get you, TYLERLIGHT, into the cool crowd...nothing will. ACB.Lol, how many times do I have to correct you? And you wonder why posters get tired of your act.
You can’t read obviously. I’ve told you already dummy. You are choosing to ignore it. You’re just mad because I know the Big 12 is in a bad position and I want WVU out and into a stable and premier league that is the SEC . But just in case since your brain lapses again and again, the Big 12 failed the 7 member schools with the moves.Correct me? You’d have to post something besides trolling, shilling or disinformation or derailing such as here first.
But your bosses don’t pay you to do that soooo.
Seriously, I’m sure everyone here would be interested in who you work f eerrr root for? Why are you intent on hiding that?
I mean you are so sure of your shill hits against WVU and the BIg 12, why are you so ashamed to say who supports err who you support?
Oh the BP is still hereJumping on Bucky will not get you, TYLERLIGHT, into the cool crowd...nothing will. ACB.
It's fun to read what you Tylerlight drool in a post lol. Always waiting for more of your anti Christian bigotry to surface.Oh the BP is still here
BPIt's fun to read what you Tylerlight drool in a post lol. Always waiting for more of your anti Christian bigotry to surface.