HCNB introducing Chad Scott seemed

[mountaineermaniac34]

Very similar to a consolation game speech to a fourth grade bitty ball YMCA Saturday evening tournament in Ranger West Virginia.

The “Make the most of it comment” sounded like he was getting punished and make lemonade out of a lemon.

I truly hope he’s a Calvin McGee 2.0.

 

[WVUALLEN]

What hire did you expect with coach on his last leg?

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

What hire did you expect with coach on his last leg?

Maybe he wasn't expecting a better hire, but rather a better effort at selling the bullshit. Like I said with the media, they are trying to convince you not to believe your lying eyes about Brown literally being a deadman walking. We know he'd be out on his ear if Lyons and Gee hadn't mortgaged the entire athletic department with such a garbage contract. But unlike the media, Brown comes off as just resigned to this obvious fate and is not trying to spin it as though there were hope.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Brown has to have someone to throw under the bus if we suck, like he did Harrell. After he did that, if In were Scott I would've refused the position. This is embarrassing. Neal Brown is a total schmuck. He's not fooling everybody.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Brown has to have someone to throw under the bus if we suck, like he did Harrell. After he did that, if In were Scott I would've refused the position. This is embarrassing. Neal Brown is a total schmuck. He's not fooling everybody.

He's fooled a lot of clowns, and will be cashing his Shame Lyons money in the bank...then I bet Shame gets a piece on the back end from Kneels agent.

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

Maybe he wasn't expecting a better hire, but rather a better effort at selling the bullshit. Like I said with the media, they are trying to convince you not to believe your lying eyes about Brown literally being a deadman walking. We know he'd be out on his ear if Lyons and Gee hadn't mortgaged the entire athletic department with such a garbage contract. But unlike the media, Brown comes off as just resigned to this obvious fate and is not trying to spin it as though there were hope.

^^This. I didn’t expect the slam dunk. Hell even the Mumme tree brethren have turned their back. The delivery and the worn out videos of HCNB TV was beyond underwhelming. We get it. You’re a dead Man walking and your Setting back to program an additional year because of your buyout. Do a better job selling us the bullshit. Come on Neal? Where’s the juice!!

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

^^This. I didn’t expect the slam dunk. Hell even the Mumme tree brethren have turned their back. The delivery and the worn out videos of HCNB TV was ?
beyond underwhelming. We get it. You’re a dead Man walking and your Setting back to program an additional year because of your buyout. Do a better job selling us the bullshit. Come on Neal? Where’s the juice!!

It also shows his lack of integrity. It is obvious he hasn't done his job and no matter what he thinks led to this underperformance, it is obvious thar he us hamstrung going forward. He knows its an even harder task than before given his tenuous situation with recruits, transfers, and staff hires. His body language and posture says he has no faith in his ability to turn this around and earn that contract. He knows if he doesn't improve it will hurt the program and the longer he stays in limbo the more depleted the coffers will be for the next hire both in financial capital, but also personnel. He knows he is lining his pockets only to likely then leave the next guy with a mess like the one he wants to blame all his lack of results on.

So while it is not immoral what he is doing. But it certainly is not virtuous or showing a high degree of integrity. The most stand up thing to do is admit that no matter the cause, this albatross around your neck isn't going to kill your performance and the program. Thus if WVU doesn't have more than 6 wins next year, you will walk with a reduced buyout.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Brown has to have someone to throw under the bus if we suck, like he did Harrell. After he did that, if In were Scott I would've refused the position. This is embarrassing. Neal Brown is a total schmuck. He's not fooling everybody.

Don't think he threw Harrell under the bus. Harrell just wasn't as good as advertised.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Don't think he threw Harrell under the bus. Harrell just wasn't as good as advertised.

Seems like no one is ever good while working for Kneel...

 

[WESTBGVA]

It also shows his lack of integrity. It is obvious he hasn't done his job and no matter what he thinks led to this underperformance, it is obvious thar he us hamstrung going forward. He knows its an even harder task than before given his tenuous situation with recruits, transfers, and staff hires. His body language and posture says he has no faith in his ability to turn this around and earn that contract. He knows if he doesn't improve it will hurt the program and the longer he stays in limbo the more depleted the coffers will be for the next hire both in financial capital, but also personnel. He knows he is lining his pockets only to likely then leave the next guy with a mess like the one he wants to blame all his lack of results on.

So while it is not immoral what he is doing. But it certainly is not virtuous or showing a high degree of integrity. The most stand up thing to do is admit that no matter the cause, this albatross around your neck isn't going to kill your performance and the program. Thus if WVU doesn't have more than 6 wins next year, you will walk with a reduced buyout.

of course..I'm sure you'd just give up millions of dollars to do the "right thing"..me..I have a contract you're paying my ass..

 

[WVUALLEN]

Seems like no one is ever good while working for Kneel...

Except the one who was fired for yelling at players and hurting their feelings.

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

of course..I'm sure you'd just give up millions of dollars to do the "right thing"..me..I have a contract you're paying my ass..

Like I said, it is not immoral. But it is certainly not virtuous. Kind of like a casino letting someone gamble who that they know is pissing away their rent or grocery money. It's not an immoral act to let someone do something to their detriment and your benefit. But no one would call you noble either.

Also I'm not saying you walk away with nothing. Even if he agreed to half, he would still get like 8 million on top of the 4ish he makes for coaching the season.

 

[eerdoc]

^^This. I didn’t expect the slam dunk. Hell even the Mumme tree brethren have turned their back. The delivery and the worn out videos of HCNB TV was beyond underwhelming. We get it. You’re a dead Man walking and your Setting back to program an additional year because of your buyout. Do a better job selling us the bullshit. Come on Neal? Where’s the juice!!

Any chance you c ould just SHUT UP and stop riding the same pitiful horse? You nit-pick like you suffer from a massive infestation of worms.

 

[WESTBGVA]

Like I said, it is not immoral. But it is certainly not virtuous. Kind of like a casino letting someone gamble who that they know is pissing away their rent or grocery money. It's not an immoral act to let someone do something to their detriment and your benefit. But no one would call you noble either.

Also I'm not saying you walk away with nothing. Even if he agreed to half, he would still get like 8 million on top of the 4ish he makes for coaching the season.

why would anyone settle for less from a place that wants to fire them?...no one that's who..WVU offered the contract..pay up or shut up

 

[WVUALLEN]

I have no problem with Chad Scott being named OC.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Don't think he threw Harrell under the bus. Harrell just wasn't as good as advertised.

I listened to the interview, and it sounded exactly like Neal Brown threw Harrell under the bus. Im not defending Harrell because his offense was only slightly better than previous years, but a real leader doesnt throw people under the bus, they take accountability. That being said, I dont think a good OC can overcome the downfalls of having a bad HC.

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

Any chance you c ould just SHUT UP and stop riding the same pitiful horse? You nit-pick like you suffer from a massive infestation of worms.

Well somebody lost her thesaurus. Worms? Really? Where is the juice? No juice award for you.

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

I listened to the interview, and it sounded exactly like Neal Brown threw Harrell under the bus. Im not defending Harrell because his offense was only slightly better than previous years, but a real leader doesnt throw people under the bus, they take accountability. That being said, I dont think a good OC can overcome the downfalls of having a bad HC.

Neal absolutely threw Harrell under the bus. However I don’t think there is really one person to blame. Our travel the transfer quarterback was not as advertised, i’ll fence continue to commit dumb pre-snap penalties and the defense continue to make the same mental errors, And Harrell want that great.

CJ went down and Neal lost the team….again. The Kansas and Pitt losses were devastating. Neal is not a HC that can rally teams week in and week out

 

[WVUALLEN]

I listened to the interview, and it sounded exactly like Neal Brown threw Harrell under the bus. Im not defending Harrell because his offense was only slightly better than previous years, but a real leader doesnt throw people under the bus, they take accountability. That being said, I dont think a good OC can overcome the downfalls of having a bad HC.

That's your opinion. Probably slanted by your dislike of Brown.

 

[deedoubleyou]

That's your opinion. Probably slanted by your dislike of Brown.

It was the tone of his voice when he said something like "well, if I had to do it over again, I wouldnt have hired an OC". Because of course they were talking about struggles, and it simply cant be Neal Brown's fault. It's everyone else. I have no respect for Neal Brown and that part has nothing to do with his poor coaching. It's his willingness to throw people under the bus and point fingers at everything but himself. Its not respectable.

 

[WVUALLEN]

It was the tone of his voice when he said something like "well, if I had to do it over again, I wouldnt have hired an OC". Because of course they were talking about struggles, and it simply cant be Neal Brown's fault. It's everyone else. I have no respect for Neal Brown and that part has nothing to do with his poor coaching. It's his willingness to throw people under the bus and point fingers at everything but himself. Its not respectable.

Sounds like conjecture by many who dislike Neal Brown. I wish he had not hired an OC last year either. Maybe he would be gone already.

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

For most, and for myself, the issue with Brown is that he says the right things but they just don’t translate to the field. The cursing in interviews and press conferences appears to be nothing but smoke and mirrors as he knows the fan base is extraordinarily disappointed and frustrated. It’s also unprofessional especially when it’s unwarranted because you got outcoached and your team has made the same stupid penalties every year since he came to Morgantown.

His actions on the sidelines are unwarranted most of the time. Dana was borderline crazy and still is. His actions earlier in the year were an embarrassment to Houston, however he turned it around. Brown doesn’t turn anything around.

His contract extension, combined with his phony rhetoric about the people of West Virginia and understands and sympathizes with their frustration, is what pisses me off. This is why we have so many transfers because the players just don’t buy what he is selling. This also appears to be the same thing when trying to find an outfit coordinator and he settled on Chad Scott. I think Chad is great, players loving, however he was a consolation hire.

So here we are at the bottom of the big 12 with very little hope and he has granted one more year because of a ridiculous amount of money it would cost to fire him. Brown has it made off of a terrible, horrible, disastrous contract extension and nothing else. He’s going to be even more of a multi millionaire and will always land at some FCS or Mumme tree job.

Yes he will land some good recruits on his sales tactics, however he’s not going to be able to retain them. Essentially everybody sees through the BS and/or his lack of ability.

But Gee loves him and loves 5-7. Gee was just as involved as Lyons on the buyout and fell on the sword. Wren is a yes man with his head in the clouds that he is at a very respectable institution with a significantly larger paycheck.

So we’re going to go through the motions in 2023 with a glorified Jeff Mullen as our HC.

 

[WVUALLEN]

People hate Brown because he's losing. Winning 8 or more a year and nobody would care or notice what he does.