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Can someone explain to me why Rich Rod would be a bad hire...

Can somebody explain to me why Rich Rod would want to come back?
Legacy. One rarely gets a chance to rewrite mistakes. Once Michigan fired him, he knew it was a mistake to leave WVU. With Pastalong gone, I think he wants to return.
 
...without citing how he left, and the fact that you think he's a scumbag, or the devil, or whatever?

I'm pretty sure the guy is a good coach, and at this point, I think we all just want to win. I think he was deserving of more time at Michigan, and he's obviously (slowly) turning Arizona around in a more competitive Pac-12 than the Big East was. Granted, I think there are legitimate potential concerns with Casteel's defense against Big 12 offenses, and Gibby is much better.

When you consider what coaches are "available" right now, and what coaches we can realistically attract while competing with all the other schools that have or will have coaching vacancies at the end of the season, I think someone at Rich's level (of being a proven head coach) is probably the best we can do without taking a chance on another highly-regarded coordinator.

And lets be honest, in all likelihood, the guy probably deeply regrets not only how he left, but leaving in the first place.
Because he believes West Virginia is nothing special and he is a scum bag and the devil.
 
What makes anyone think that RR would do any better against Top 15 teams. He crashed at Michigan and hasn't beat many good teams in the PAC 12. If he was our coach, I doubt that our record would be any better with our brutal schedule. On this board, the trolls and low information fans are going to trash any new coach just as much and will conclude after every loss that we were better with Holgorsen. TCU was a top 5 teams and we had to play them at their stadium. Some perspective is needed!
 
I don't understand all the knob-slobbering over Rich Rod. His talents and acomplishments as a coach aside......HE'S NOT GOING TO COME BACK HERE. If he moves anywhere it will likely be because the opportunity is a step up, not a lateral move. Plus he's not bombing or on the hotseat at Arizona right now, so he's not going to be forced out. All the arguments of whether we want him back here or not are stupid. We might was well be arguing about having Saban as our coach....because that isn't going to happen either!

RR may well regret leaving in the first place but he's not coming back to WV. He might end up back east but I don't see him wanting or needing to go through the trouble that would be a return to WV. He's not going to put his kids and family through that either.
 
First, do I really need to address everything he accomplished here? We all thought he was a good coach then, but since he's left, there have been so many revisionist fans that continually downplay what he achieved.

At Michigan, I think many people can agree that way too much pressure was put on him from the beginning, and it was impossible to live up to those expectations in the timeframe given. If you noticed, he really did have some good players coming in, but unfortunately, Brady Hoke was the one to inherit them.

And he's clearly turning Arizona around in a tough Pac-12, and anyone who has been paying attention can see that. Arizona also isn't a job that its easy to just go in and start dominating with, either.

Stop with this nonsense that he's not a good coach. He is.


Umm, maybe you thought he was a good coach while here. I saw him for what he is and that is a gimmick coach. Everyone was starting to figure him out and I was calling for his firing a couple years before he left. So no, he may be a good coach to yet, but not to everyone.
 
and I was calling for his firing a couple years before he left.

I can understand people disliking or distrusting Rich. I can understand people saying he is overrated. I can understand people being opposed to bringing him back. Say all of those things, and I won't question the sincerity or reasonableness of your positions.

Boasting that you were calling for his firing "a couple of years before he left," or in other words, in the midst of one of the best most exciting seasons in school history, does cause me to question your objectivity and judgment.
 
"he knew it was a mistake to leave WVU" Where would you get that impression? He may regret the way it went down, but from Garrison's deposition he was quoted as he no longer thought WVU was a special place.

"Garrison, in his just-released deposition, quoted Rodriguez as saying that he did not feel that WVU was, quote, “so F’ing special.”' (page 366 in the deposition) Garrison admitted in the deposition that at one point in his conversation with Rodriguez he became aggravated. “It was at the point in the conversation when I expressed my strong feelings, which I maintain today, that there is great value in coaching at your alma mater, as your home university, and in your home state.” (page 226 in the deposition) Rodriguez said he didn’t think the place was necessarily any more special than anyplace else.”
 
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I don't know about anything that was said internally (despite Garrison's comments---which while true, could have been taken out of context). I say he realized his mistake, because Michigan fans wanted him gone in a very short period. The pressure and uncertainty that came from moving up there had to have made him feel like it was a mistake. He could have been here for decades (even with bad years). He was one win away from the national championship game with his alma mater. Even now at AZ, he has a sort leash. WVU was the only program in the country where he had no real pressure....not after the Sugar Bowl anyway.
 
I don't know about anything that was said internally (despite Garrison's comments---which while true, could have been taken out of context). I say he realized his mistake, because Michigan fans wanted him gone in a very short period. The pressure and uncertainty that came from moving up there had to have made him feel like it was a mistake. He could have been here for decades (even with bad years). He was one win away from the national championship game with his alma mater. Even now at AZ, he has a sort leash. WVU was the only program in the country where he had no real pressure....not after the Sugar Bowl anyway.
good point. However, I disagree about lack of pressure here. Dana has played the hardest stretch of games the last 5 weeks this program has ever faced. And lost all 4 games to teams in the top 10-15. And his job is in jeopardy. Truth is, outside of maybe Rodriguez and Bowden, every Wvu coach (including Nehlen) would've gotten waxed in all 4 contests as well.
 
good point. However, I disagree about lack of pressure here. Dana has played the hardest stretch of games the last 5 weeks this program has ever faced. And lost all 4 games to teams in the top 10-15. And his job is in jeopardy. Truth is, outside of maybe Rodriguez and Bowden, every Wvu coach (including Nehlen) would've gotten waxed in all 4 contests as well.
Don lost 9 bowl games in a row, and never had a legitimate shot at winning a major bowl since Major left. He had no pressure here. He is still seen as a legend. I give him credit for consistently putting us in bowl games, but we were never great under him. Pressure from fans is different than pressure from donors and AD. Rod could have rolled through 10 years without pressure from those with influence after that Sugar Bowl win. We beat the SEC champ, it was the best win in program history.
 
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Don lost 9 bowl games in a row, and never had a legitimate shot at winning a major bowl since Major left. He had no pressure here. He is still seen as a legend. I give him credit for consistently putting us in bowl games, but we were never great under him. Pressure from fans is different than pressure from donors and AD. Rod could have rolled through 10 years without pressure from those with influence after that Sugar Bowl win. We beat the SEC champ, it was the best win in program history.
I think he left because Pastalong wouldn't commit to improvements. Look at all that has been done since Luck came into the job. The increases for assistants, meeting room, stadium upgrades....I think those were the issues. I think Rod got very frustrated with how Pastalong ran the program, and I also think that MAYBE JUST MAYBE Rod has shown class by not blasting Pastalong publicly. It might be just what I want to believe..... But I always thought Pastalong was a bad AD.
 
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...without citing how he left, and the fact that you think he's a scumbag, or the devil, or whatever?

I'm pretty sure the guy is a good coach, and at this point, I think we all just want to win. I think he was deserving of more time at Michigan, and he's obviously (slowly) turning Arizona around in a more competitive Pac-12 than the Big East was. Granted, I think there are legitimate potential concerns with Casteel's defense against Big 12 offenses, and Gibby is much better.

When you consider what coaches are "available" right now, and what coaches we can realistically attract while competing with all the other schools that have or will have coaching vacancies at the end of the season, I think someone at Rich's level (of being a proven head coach) is probably the best we can do without taking a chance on another highly-regarded coordinator.

And lets be honest, in all likelihood, the guy probably deeply regrets not only how he left, but leaving in the first place.

To be honest.......................I think Crows Eye just may be Rich Rod himself. Only Rich Rod could post such ridiculous junk! We all know RR is self serving.
 
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