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So, I just read the savings between now and the end of season on NB's buyout is 100K.

Is that accurate?

If so, wouldn't the opportunity cost of those weeks for retaining players and recruits and starting a new coaches recruitment process, be worth it? (I guess if our new coach is not employed of course.)
 
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So, I just read the savings between now and the end of season on NB's buyout is 100K.

Is that accurate?

If so, wouldn't the opportunity cost of those weeks for retaining players and recruits and starting a new coaches recruitment process, be worth it? (I guess if our new coach is not employed of course.)
Don't think so. I think it is somewhere around $2 million in savings.
 
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Don't think so. I think it is somewhere around $2 million in savings.
Not a solid source, but read this today:
Q: What is Neal Brown's current contract, and what is the buyout and time of buyout reduction?

A: Brown's contract runs through the end of the 2027 season, thanks to an extension that took place in the offseason. With the new deal, though, Brown's buyout dropped from 100% to 75%. So if West Virginia decides to move in a different direction now, at the end of the season, or at any point before his contract expires, the university will owe him 75% of his remaining salary. Right now, it's approximately $9.8 million. By the end of the season, it will be roughly $9.7 million.
 
New Contract - 75% of his remaining 2024 salary ($1.00 million) plus 75% of the remaining three years ($4+4.3+4.4 for a total of $12.7). Seventy-five percent of that number ($13.7) comes out to a grand total of $10.275 million.

Result? With the new extension, WVU is paying out $645,000 more to Brown if they fire him at the end of this month than they would have under the old deal.



Okay, let's now go to Brown being fired at the end of the season. All money paid this year is a sunk cost, done and gone. So we're just looking at future salaries. In that scenario, WVU would have paid $8.6 million (100% of his remaining contract) under the old deal, but will pay $9.525 (75% of $12.7 million) under the new deal, which equals $925,000 more. Take away $100,00 because of the savings in salary, and your true difference is $825,000.



Let's say WVU pulls a reverse-Dana and waits until January 1st to make their move, prompting the 85% trigger in the old deal. That would have saved WVU $1.3 million on the old deal, bringing the buyout down to $7.31 million..... while it would still remain $9.525 under the new deal.



How about the ship gets righted, WVU finishes 8-4 on the season, and they ride it out for one more year, but things go horribly in 2025? WVU moves on after the 2025 season. That would mean Brown got his salary for all of 2025, then the buyout for beyond that. In the old deal, that would be a total of $7.94 million ($4.2 million in salary plus $3.74 million in buyout), while the new extension would have paid him $10.525 million ($4 million salary plus $6.525 million in buyout). That's a difference of $2.585 million - saving $200,000 in salary, but paying $2.785 million more in buyout.
 
When they fix the football program, donations, ticket sales, wvu overall attendance and everything will get better. His buyout will seem like chump change.
 
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New Contract - 75% of his remaining 2024 salary ($1.00 million) plus 75% of the remaining three years ($4+4.3+4.4 for a total of $12.7). Seventy-five percent of that number ($13.7) comes out to a grand total of $10.275 million.

Result? With the new extension, WVU is paying out $645,000 more to Brown if they fire him at the end of this month than they would have under the old deal.



Okay, let's now go to Brown being fired at the end of the season. All money paid this year is a sunk cost, done and gone. So we're just looking at future salaries. In that scenario, WVU would have paid $8.6 million (100% of his remaining contract) under the old deal, but will pay $9.525 (75% of $12.7 million) under the new deal, which equals $925,000 more. Take away $100,00 because of the savings in salary, and your true difference is $825,000.



Let's say WVU pulls a reverse-Dana and waits until January 1st to make their move, prompting the 85% trigger in the old deal. That would have saved WVU $1.3 million on the old deal, bringing the buyout down to $7.31 million..... while it would still remain $9.525 under the new deal.



How about the ship gets righted, WVU finishes 8-4 on the season, and they ride it out for one more year, but things go horribly in 2025? WVU moves on after the 2025 season. That would mean Brown got his salary for all of 2025, then the buyout for beyond that. In the old deal, that would be a total of $7.94 million ($4.2 million in salary plus $3.74 million in buyout), while the new extension would have paid him $10.525 million ($4 million salary plus $6.525 million in buyout). That's a difference of $2.585 million - saving $200,000 in salary, but paying $2.785 million more in buyout.
On the buyout. Would you rather pay $9.525 million over three years or $8.6 million over two years?
 
New Contract - 75% of his remaining 2024 salary ($1.00 million) plus 75% of the remaining three years ($4+4.3+4.4 for a total of $12.7). Seventy-five percent of that number ($13.7) comes out to a grand total of $10.275 million.

Result? With the new extension, WVU is paying out $645,000 more to Brown if they fire him at the end of this month than they would have under the old deal.



Okay, let's now go to Brown being fired at the end of the season. All money paid this year is a sunk cost, done and gone. So we're just looking at future salaries. In that scenario, WVU would have paid $8.6 million (100% of his remaining contract) under the old deal, but will pay $9.525 (75% of $12.7 million) under the new deal, which equals $925,000 more. Take away $100,00 because of the savings in salary, and your true difference is $825,000.



Let's say WVU pulls a reverse-Dana and waits until January 1st to make their move, prompting the 85% trigger in the old deal. That would have saved WVU $1.3 million on the old deal, bringing the buyout down to $7.31 million..... while it would still remain $9.525 under the new deal.



How about the ship gets righted, WVU finishes 8-4 on the season, and they ride it out for one more year, but things go horribly in 2025? WVU moves on after the 2025 season. That would mean Brown got his salary for all of 2025, then the buyout for beyond that. In the old deal, that would be a total of $7.94 million ($4.2 million in salary plus $3.74 million in buyout), while the new extension would have paid him $10.525 million ($4 million salary plus $6.525 million in buyout). That's a difference of $2.585 million - saving $200,000 in salary, but paying $2.785 million more in buyout.


Again. That extension only benefited Brown.
We still have to pay out the nose to get rid of him and he gained a significant cut in what he would have to pay to get out of the contract if he didn’t suck this year.

His agent needs a raise and we need a real A.D.
 
Don't waste your time. He's gone at the end of the season.
Not if EGG has any say in it. Remember he said 5-7 was a good year. The claim from fraud steeleer that the AD is problem is baseless. As most his claims are. People are forgetting the political power that EGG has over the BOG. He blocks any movement from Wren wanting to hire a new coach.

Even if he got approval The BOG would put it on the back burner due to needing to find a new President of the university.
 
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