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Big 12 basketball taking it on the chin
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Go cheer for the ACC then douchebag. If you aren't happy, go cry some more to them.
Lets see how many ACC or Big XII teams makes it to the final 4, i think the ACC has a good chance to get 1 in.
We could be looking at another 1988 style (KU,OU,KSU,AZ ) of final 4
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Duke was in the 1988 Final Four, not KSU.
You may be thinking of 1985, which is the only year that 3 teams from the same conference made the Final Four. It was champion Villanova, runner-up Georgetown, and St. John's--all of the Big East.
Settle down. And yes, I'll cheer for Duke and Nova now that we are out. I like Coach K.
Deal with it.
Seems like someone forgot to switch their screen names before posting.....oops.
Let's let the facts do the talking.
Kansas won it in 2008 and played in the title game in 1991, 2003 and 2012.
And in 1988, Kansas beat Oklahoma in the title game. NO conference has had two teams in the title game since, and that's been 28 years. I didn't bother to check back into ancient history, but I think I made my point.
Kansas and Oklahoma are the Duke and North Carolina of the Big 12.
Yes, 4 of the 7 Big 12 teams crapped out. But Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa State are in the Sweet Sixteen. That's 30% of the conference among the last 16 teams alive in March Madness. Not exactly a pratfall, I'd say.
Kansas won it in 2008 and played in the title game in 1991, 2003 and 2012.
And in 1988, Kansas beat Oklahoma in the title game. NO conference has had two teams in the title game since, and that's been 28 years. I didn't bother to check back into ancient history, but I think I made my point.
Kansas and Oklahoma are the Duke and North Carolina of the Big 12.
Yes, 4 of the 7 Big 12 teams crapped out. But Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa State are in the Sweet Sixteen. That's 30% of the conference among the last 16 teams alive in March Madness. Not exactly a pratfall, I'd say.
Let's look at the record.
Kansas won it all in 1988, 2008 and was in the title game in 1991, 2003 and 2012.
In 1988, Kansas beat Oklahoma in the title game. NO conference has had both teams in the title game since.
Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa State are in the Sweet Sixteen. That's 30% of the conference!
And it's possible for the Final Four to have three Big 12 teams.
It would be hard to diss the Big 12, unless you're an idiot or a masochist, if that happens.
Kansas won it all in 1988, 2008 and was in the title game in 1991, 2003 and 2012.
In 1988, Kansas beat Oklahoma in the title game. NO conference has had both teams in the title game since.
Kansas, Oklahoma and Iowa State are in the Sweet Sixteen. That's 30% of the conference!
And it's possible for the Final Four to have three Big 12 teams.
It would be hard to diss the Big 12, unless you're an idiot or a masochist, if that happens.
premature talk of over/underrated. KU hammered poll darling MD & OU handled SEC co-champ aTm. easy double digit wins to get to the Elite 8. the madness is over & reality has set it. typically the case. seeing George Mason, VCU & Butler make the Final Four was the real madness.
Beloved Duke finally had an opponent not a double digit seed from a sub-par league & bowed out to superior athletes by a big double digit margin.
the committee set it up with KU & OU on same half of bracket & UNC/UVA on same half. I guess we'll see how it'll play out, but it looks like 2 conference chalk rematches in Final Four barring mild upsets. looks like they were trying to avoid a National Championship rematch of conference opponents, but it's likely coming in the Final Four. blah. expected more out of this wild a year.
Beloved Duke finally had an opponent not a double digit seed from a sub-par league & bowed out to superior athletes by a big double digit margin.
the committee set it up with KU & OU on same half of bracket & UNC/UVA on same half. I guess we'll see how it'll play out, but it looks like 2 conference chalk rematches in Final Four barring mild upsets. looks like they were trying to avoid a National Championship rematch of conference opponents, but it's likely coming in the Final Four. blah. expected more out of this wild a year.
Oklahoma does not resemble Duke or Carolina in any way, and living vicariously through other conference schools doesn't result in adding any banners to the Coliseum's rafters.
Either Gonzaga or Syracuse will have a chance to make the Final Four, thats pretty out of the ordinary for a team like Syracuse who most said didnt even deserve to make it, and a Gonzaga team who needed to win their conference tournament to secure their place at the table to have that opportunity.
Coaching............it's all in the coaching. The players mean nothing when March Madness rolls in on little cat's feet.........................and then moves on for our Mountaineers. Dadgummit!
Oklahoma just made the final four and Kansas is playing tonight for a shot. Baylor and WVU are both solid teams they just ran into tough teams. It doesn't matter how many teams win tourney games it's about the Final Four aND the chsmpionship.
neither Stephen F Austin nor WVU looked "tough" as both shot barely 30% from the field
Also, it does matter because you can put a dollar value on each game played. The ACC will make $40 million for the 25 games it will have played in this tourney. The 25 games played is a tournament record. The 4 Big 12 teams that lost in the first round cost the conference $6 million total just by not playing a second game.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...d-money-earned-ncaa-men-basketball-tournament
"Each game played in this year's tournament is worth $265,791. That money is paid out in each of the next six years (2017-22), with the number for each game, or unit, growing each year of the payout. That puts the total value of a game played in this year's tournament at more than $1.59 million."
Not bad. Not bad at all. Just not the ACC. Man imagine if Louisville was in the NCAAs as a 3 Seed. Could have actually been 7 ACC teams in the Sweet 16. Sick! The ACC is sick. Imagine this league in 5 years.
not a conference chest thumper. more a home team fan & body of work admirer, especially appreciative of road winners. after watching the total season, it's not hard to tell a quality league. NCAA ones and dones don't yield the validation many foam over. BXII is & was as legit as the rest.
until someone stops Hield, it's his tournament for the taking. He is the hands down best player this season, NBA now quality playing on one of the top four college teams that's long battle-tested and peaking at right time. not even Duke Vitale can argue Hield isn't the best. WV's last win of the 2015-16 campaign should be a feather in the cap & confidence booster, that said.
generally you have to have star power to win & outstanding guards. OU has that plus return NCAA tourney experience & a hugely experienced coach. Kruger > Altman, all due respect. big ups Altman, though, for smashing Duke.
OU throttled Nova this season by 23 on a neutral floor at Pearl Harbor. they are getting supplementary contributions from Woodard & Cousins too. they're complete at this point.
Sooners easily out-gunned a top scoring Oregon in Anaheim & it's going to take an awful lot to beat them, I believe. They are also sound defensively, which gets overshadowed by Hield's scoring. No easy task holding the 81 PPG Ducks to 68 on the Elite Eight stage away from home in Calif.
Nova guarded KU pretty well too (59 points), but I doubt can stop OU similarly for 40 minutes.
until someone stops Hield, it's his tournament for the taking. He is the hands down best player this season, NBA now quality playing on one of the top four college teams that's long battle-tested and peaking at right time. not even Duke Vitale can argue Hield isn't the best. WV's last win of the 2015-16 campaign should be a feather in the cap & confidence booster, that said.
generally you have to have star power to win & outstanding guards. OU has that plus return NCAA tourney experience & a hugely experienced coach. Kruger > Altman, all due respect. big ups Altman, though, for smashing Duke.
OU throttled Nova this season by 23 on a neutral floor at Pearl Harbor. they are getting supplementary contributions from Woodard & Cousins too. they're complete at this point.
Sooners easily out-gunned a top scoring Oregon in Anaheim & it's going to take an awful lot to beat them, I believe. They are also sound defensively, which gets overshadowed by Hield's scoring. No easy task holding the 81 PPG Ducks to 68 on the Elite Eight stage away from home in Calif.
Nova guarded KU pretty well too (59 points), but I doubt can stop OU similarly for 40 minutes.
So the thread was about the Big 12 taking it on the chin. So let's change that to Big 12 taking on the chin except for Oklahoma. Is that better?
Yes, Greg, that's better. Oklahoma does count among BXII teams, right? I don't like it anymore than you, but the Sooners should count for something like it or not. Wish it were us, but I call it like I see it.
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