And then there’s West Virginia.

[WVU82]

http://footballscoop.com/news/dana-holgorsen-print-chart-mail-every-wvu-season-ticket-holder/

The folks at SB Nation compiled a chart tracking every blue-chip (four- and five-star) recruit from 2013 through the ongoing 2017 class. At the top were the usual suspects — Florida and Texas, then a small gap to California, then a large gap to Georgia, then a larger gap to Ohio and Louisiana.

The chart then cascades down through the likes of Alabama, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, all the way down to recruiting wastelands Alaska, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia and Wyoming — all of whom did not produce a single bluechip over the past five years.

One of those is, of course, not like the others.

Seven of those nine states don’t play FBS football. One, Wyoming, plays in the Mountain West.

And then there’s West Virginia.

Dana Holgorsen and the Mountaineers are the only Power Five staff tasked with stacking a roster without the benefit of a single bluechip recruit of the 1,642 produced over the last five years. Other states come close — Nebraska produced two, Wisconsin and Iowa five apiece, Kansas and Minnesota six — but not one else came up empty over half a decade. Yes, West Virginia recruits Florida successfully, and, sure, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Ohio and other nutrient-rich soils are nearby, but long-distance recruiting isn’t a complimentary strategy for the Mountaineers. It’s the only strategy.

With that inherent disadvantage baked into West Virginia’s football DNA, WVU must also fight uphill in a conference where the entire power base has the No. 2 state in producing bluechip talent and No. 1 state in overall FBS signees as its natural recruiting area. Nebraska is essentially in the same boat at West Virginia, but so are the teams Nebraska competes against. WVU doesn’t have that luxury.

It makes one wonder how West Virginia could possibly go 36-28 with one Big East championship and four seven-or-more win seasons in five tries under Holgorsen.

Or, at least it should.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

You're bragging about a (watered down) Big East Championship and seven win seasons??? LOL! Ohio, Western PA, and the Baltimore/DC area are fertile recruiting grounds right next door, and Damon Cogdell "persuaded" (wink, wink) some of South Florida's best recruits to travel to Morganhole to play college football. It hasn't been as difficult to recruit at WVU as you suggest.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Have you considered dropping football? Maybe you should. Or, maybe you should attempt to get your drunken coach out of his house and/or local beer joint and/or local casino (if he's even allowed in any these days), and do some recruiting outside of that shitty 30 mile radius you hicks call home?

You do realize Marshall is in the same state, right? Of course, the Herd doesn't belly ache, and still manages to finish ahead of the EARS for the last three consecutive years (aka, back to back to back)

 

[WVU82]

Are you having trouble with facts again ?

your SOS tells EVERYONE that recruiting doesn't matter for the moooooo...
you just pick up rejects and failures, which is good enough to win in 3482...

Try competing with Texas & Oklahoma...

There are more HS kids in Houston than the entire state of West Virginia.

http://mode.github.io/blog/2014-01-...x.html?_ga=1.232495647.1091812641.1467234503#
this map shows by position where every Div1 player is from...

Dallas County is the hub. A total of 404 players come from the county, the most in the area - which is not surprising when you consider the county includes all of Dallas, Grand Prairie, Cedar Hill, DeSoto, Richardson, Mesquite, Garland and Irving. Only two other counties in the nation exceed Dallas County's total: Los Angeles County [Calif.], 648; and Harris County [greater Houston], 498.

Harris County (Houston) has more players in Division I in nearly every position, except two: defensive backs and kickers/punters. Dallas County's 89 defensive backs just outpaces Houston's 86 (a quick look at the SportsDayHS Area Top 100 indicates that might not change anytime soon; more than a quarter of the list [27 players] are defensive backs). Dallas County's 20 kickers/punters is tied for most in the country with Los Angeles [Calif.] County.

 

[dave]

Of course, the Herd doesn't belly ache, and still manages to finish ahead of the EARS for the last three consecutive years (aka, back to back to back)

There is no data to back up this ridiculous claim.

 

[WVU82]

and another thing... WVU is new to the party of the $40M groupies.

These other Big12 schools have been in the big $$$$ for years.

We're playing catch-up.

and catch-up we will...

 

[WVU82]

and Tulane just lost their baseball coach to Texas...

helluva jump in pay...

 

[tOSUGrad90]

I guess that Texas doesn't think that Mazey is "all that." The losses to baseball powers like Canisius cancel out the wins over the Oklahoma States, and Texas must understand this, just as the NCAA tournament selection committee had understood it.

 

[dave]

I guess that Texas doesn't think that Mazey is "all that." The losses to baseball powers like Canisius cancel out the wins over the Oklahoma States, and Texas must understand this, just as the NCAA tournament selection committee had understood it.

Texas probably didnt think a lot of losing to Mazey.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Yeah, brag about beating Texas, which was so bad this season, that it decided to force its legendary coach to retire. Of course, you're partial to Texas, as their away uniforms resemble the cones that you lasso on a daily basis. LOL

 

[dave]

Yeah, brag about beating Texas, which was so bad this season, that it decided to force its legendary coach to retire. Of course, you're partial to Texas, as their away uniforms resemble the cones that you lasso on a daily basis. LOL

I am sorry you are a miserable person with such a pathetic life that you use the internet to spew anger at people who laugh at you and generally dont give a famn about you. Have a greatday sucking in Scott Depot.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

I'm not angry at you, Dave. Why would I be mad at some poor slob who has to labor in unbearable heat and humidity in a slum like Morganhole just to make a buck?

 

[WVU82]

Mazey is a Clemson grad... and I wish they would take him.

and the Texas coach had to play the Clemens boys....Roger said so.

 

[dave]

I'm not angry at you, Dave. Why would I be mad at some poor slob who has to labor in unbearable heat and humidity in a slum like Morganhole just to make a buck?

Of course you are angry. One needs only read your replies to see it.

70 and air conditioned at my office. I also dont have to live in Scott Depot or pretend to be a fan of a good team because my alma mater is a world class joke.

 

[dave]

Mazey is a Clemson grad... and I wish they would take him.

and the Texas coach had to play the Clemens boys....Roger said so.

We should definitely get rid of Mazey.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

We should definitely get rid of Mazey.

Why, does he allow blacks on your team like your old coach didn't?

That sure must make a lot of you racist hillbillies uncomfortable.

 

[WVU82]

insults, name calling, pot-stirring...

Have you ever considered being ethical ?

You're so toxic... it's a terrible way to live.

You must be a miserable person to be around.

 

[dave]

Why, does he allow blacks on your team like your old coach didn't?

That sure must make a lot of you racist hillbillies uncomfortable.

This coming from the guy who filed a frivolous lawsuit against a southern HBCA school. Hypocrite.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

This coming from the guy who filed a frivolous lawsuit against a southern HBCA school. Hypocrite.

I had two lawsuits filed. So, which of them are you claiming was frivolous?

Schools don't offer as much money as they did if their attorneys thought it was frivolous. Schools don't fire their in-house counsel and then their first two outside counsel if they are just defending against frivolous lawsuits . . . and I did all of that by myself.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

I had two lawsuits filed. So, which of them are you claiming was frivolous?

Schools don't offer as much money as they did if their attorneys thought it was frivolous. Schools don't fire their in-house counsel and then their first two outside counsel if they are just defending against frivolous lawsuits . . . and I did all of that by myself.

That would be the racial discrimination lawsuit, but I'm sure you knew that.

Did poor wittle wifle get his wittle feewings hurt ... there there wittle baby

 

[lenny4wvu]

[pfftt]

Have you considered dropping football? Maybe you should. Or, maybe you should attempt to get your drunken coach out of his house and/or local beer joint and/or local casino (if he's even allowed in any these days), and do some recruiting outside of that shitty 30 mile radius you hicks call home?

You do realize Marshall is in the same state, right? Of course, the Herd doesn't belly ache, and still manages to finish ahead of the EARS for the last three consecutive years (aka, back to

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Of course you are angry. One needs only read your replies to see it.

70 and air conditioned at my office. I also dont have to live in Scott Depot or pretend to be a fan of a good team because my alma mater is a world class joke.

Yeah, it makes no sense for me to root for my alma mater. I mean, you root for West Virginia State, your alma mater, right? Was David Cone your favorite pitcher, David Orange Cone?

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Was David Cone your favorite pitcher, David Orange Cone?

 

[TIREPUNK]

Why, does he allow blacks on your team like your old coach didn't?

That sure must make a lot of you racist hillbillies uncomfortable.

How many African Americans does Moo U have on their baseball team?

I bet zero.....

 

[dave]

Yeah, it makes no sense for me to root for my alma mater. I mean, you root for West Virginia State, your alma mater, right? Was David Cone your favorite pitcher, David Orange Cone?

I do donate money to WV State but I am not an alum of WV State. Was Randy Moss your favorite football player? He wears the colors of the best team he ever played everywhere in public, but he actually went to Marshall.

 

[MichiganHerd]

dave, why did you spend all day on a message board Saturday, when you could have assisted those in need during the flooding?