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A look at the new turf

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Is the AD making any plans to sell pieces of the old turf? It may not be a hot item, but I would have to think that a little money could be made from sales, and every cent helps these days.

I recently saw where SMU, who is also apparently replacing their turf, is selling pieces of turf. Of course, they are selling the pieces in displays similar to what WVU did with pieces of the hardwood from the Fieldhouse.
 
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Is the AD making any plans to sell pieces of the old turf? It may not be a hot item, but I would have to think that a little money could be made from sales, and every cent helps these days.

I recently saw where SMU, who is also apparently replacing their turf, is selling pieces of turf. Of course, they are selling the pieces in displays similar to what WVU did with pieces of the hardwood from the Fieldhouse.

I wouldn't want turf from the Neal Brown era in my house.
 
Anyone have any insight on the latest tech upgrades/changes to the turf? Turf in general.

I just finished this project with our very own Chris Edmonds. We used Shaw turf with 1 5/8” infill for the field itself. Really impressive system utilized by most of the NFL teams in the northern part of the country. Blue was not my choice, but that’s what he and his partners wanted.

 
The turf at Old Mountaineer Field wasn't that great. I would have much rather played on a grass field. If you didn't scrub your turf burns out thoroughly after practice, more than likely they were getting infected. This happened to me and still remember to this day being held down in the trainer's room while Lewellyn scrubbed out my burns on my knees. Of course, they never healed during the season, so you repeated the process daily. Just one of those things' fans may not realize. Penn State had the best surface we played on unfortunately we never were able to get the result we needed. Richmond had the worst. Some parts of their grass field were gravel.
 
The turf at Old Mountaineer Field wasn't that great. I would have much rather played on a grass field. If you didn't scrub your turf burns out thoroughly after practice, more than likely they were getting infected. This happened to me and still remember to this day being held down in the trainer's room while Lewellyn scrubbed out my burns on my knees. Of course, they never healed during the season, so you repeated the process daily. Just one of those things' fans may not realize. Penn State had the best surface we played on unfortunately we never were able to get the result we needed. Richmond had the worst. Some parts of their grass field were gravel.

Wasn't our old field just asphalt with a quarter inch of artificial turf?
 
Wasn't our old field just asphalt with a quarter inch of artificial turf?
Most places with the old style artificial turf it was asphalt or concrete with the turf laid directly on top. The turf did have an integrated pad, but didn't do much for absorbing blows. The new turf and infill is way more 'bouncy', almost too much, given that use of artificial turf now shows increased incidents of head injuries, which is mostly from bouncing and repeat impacts after initial impact.
 
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What new tech can be shared?

The turf fibers themselves are so long and plush now that, even without any rubber infill, it’s nearly safe enough to play on. Once the infill is added, the “g force” rating is half of what the old turfs used to be.

So, there should hypothetically be less joint injuries, concussions etc with these newer systems.

Of course, guys keep getting bigger and stronger and are getting high end college/nfl style training at a very early age now. So maybe that will balance out?

I’m just a RE developer, not a sports scientist or trainer. But I learned enough to be dangerous during this project.
 
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I still remember being at games on the original Astroturf when I was a kid.

Jim Braxton, Oscar Patrick.

Great times.
Not for our players and their knees, feet and skin. Those guys don’t need challenge coins, they just show an elbow! 😎😎
 
The turf at Old Mountaineer Field wasn't that great. I would have much rather played on a grass field. If you didn't scrub your turf burns out thoroughly after practice, more than likely they were getting infected. This happened to me and still remember to this day being held down in the trainer's room while Lewellyn scrubbed out my burns on my knees. Of course, they never healed during the season, so you repeated the process daily. Just one of those things' fans may not realize. Penn State had the best surface we played on unfortunately we never were able to get the result we needed. Richmond had the worst. Some parts of their grass field were gravel.
Andy, Richmond was a city stadium and their equipment guy told me the budget was tight. The sideline turf itself ended (onto asphalt) ONE foot past the painted sideline. Endzone backline the same.
 
Wasn't our old field just asphalt with a quarter inch of artificial turf?
The story I got as a manager in ‘72.
AstroTurf was laid in 1969. October of ‘69, the night before theRichmond game, snow mixed with ice fell. Call is made to Monsanto (not many fields in areas with snow yet). “Plow it off”, so instead of roller brush (think Patriots game), VDOT plow, broke blades off to nubs. There was a replacement clause in place, with percentage for WVU AD, like 20% at that time-we didn’t have enough $$ to do it, so we got an indoor/outdoor carpet quality field until either ‘73 or ‘74 when a brilliant plan was executed to put new turf from 20 yard line in on each end. I watched Ron Lee and his size 13 plant his forefoot on the new stuff, on an end around, he was hit and his heel on the old flat stuff spin nearly 180 degrees.
Full Disclosure: I vouch for the person who told me the history, but perhaps not the full story.

Bonus tidbit that is probably more legend than fact: 1970-student protests against the Vietnam War across campus, someone germinates the idea to burn the turf in protest. The protesters are met by the team, including Jim Braxton and BC Williams who convince the protesters that this is not the wisest of moves.
 
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The turf fibers themselves are so long and plush now that, even without any rubber infill, it’s nearly safe enough to play on. Once the infill is added, the “g force” rating is half of what the old turfs used to be.

So, there should hypothetically be less joint injuries, concussions etc with these newer systems.

Of course, guys keep getting bigger and stronger and are getting high end college/nfl style training at a very early age now. So maybe that will balance out?

I’m just a RE developer, not a sports scientist or trainer. But I learned enough to be dangerous during this project.
Nice little fact on the latest turf. Thank you.
 
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