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2 years in a row a 1st round pick from WVU.

Since 2013 the 1st year that Wvu players participated in the NFL draft as members of the big 12 we have had a total of 14 players drafted which places us 2nd only to Oklahoma in that time span. Oklahoma has had 20 players drafted in that time period. Baylor is 3rd with 13 players drafted, Tcu is next with 10 followed by Texas at 9, K State with 7, TTech with 5, Okie state and Kansas both have 4 and Iowa state is last with 3. These numbers don't exactly endorse the we can't compete because where in the Big 12 now theory. In terms of NFL draft talent Wvu should be competing for big 12 titles. You can search all draft picks by school on this site it hasn't been updated for the 2016 draft yet

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=W&collegeName=West+Virginia&abbrFlag=0&type=school
This proves two points. The excuse Ollie and Dana were pushing that we had no talent and depth are wrong, and the on field coaching has been lacking.

Can we say we have had more talent then any other time in WVU football history?
 
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This proves two points. The excuse Ollie and Dana were pushing that we had no talent and depth an wrong, and the on field coaching has been lacking.

Can we say we have had more talent then any other time in WVU football history?

It definitely damages the we can't do better than 7-5 where in the big 12 now theory. The posters that defend DH haven't had much to say about wvu draft success considering it damages the credibility of one of their favorite excuses. OL wasn't really giving DH a ringing endorsement at least in his final days at Wvu. I remembers him saying that we where leaving to many wins on the field and we could do better.
 
All of the spin stories are falling apart. Stew left us with no talent, Dana cant recruit at WVU, and we will never compete in the Big 12.

Come on coach, "Coach'em up" lets win. Get serious about this job and stop playing the California Surfer Dude. Get to work!
 
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You can argue results, but I don't think Coach DHs work ethic should be questioned. By all accounts he's been busting his ass to win football games.
 
You can argue results, but I don't think Coach DHs work ethic should be questioned. By all accounts he's been busting his ass to win football games.
Well he is still not putting up the wins compared to his talent level our expectations
 
A "California surfer dude" from Iowa.

Interesting.

Like I've always said, they simply don't like him because he's not from WV.

RR is from WV and didn't want to coach here.

Saban is from WV and doesn't want to coach here.

Jumbo is from WV and doesn't want to coach here.

5150 wants Terry Bowden, it's no secret. I bet he's on Lyon's short list too.
 
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"5150 wants Terry Bowden, it's no secret."

No, it isn't a secret.................. but it is retarded........
 
"5150 wants Terry Bowden, it's no secret."

No, it isn't a secret.................. but it is retarded........

Demographically, WV is a very, very old state. I think this is just an extension of their plans to make the state the worlds largest Senior Living Community and they want their football coaches to represent that same image.

I don't know about you, but I want my Head Coach to look like he gets lost on his way to the bathroom and drives with his turning signal on for 30 miles on the highway.
 
He cuts out all the newspaper articles of the local "stars" and mails them to Casey Smithson with a threatening note about how if Dana doesn't offer these kids, Doc is going to take over the state.....
 
Like I've always said, they simply don't like him because he's not from WV.

RR is from WV and didn't want to coach here.

Saban is from WV and doesn't want to coach here.

Jumbo is from WV and doesn't want to coach here.

5150 wants Terry Bowden, it's no secret. I bet he's on Lyon's short list too.
Actually I do not want Terry Bowden, but the coach from Ole Miss or the guy from Temple are a good place to start.
 
Your expectations are completely irrelevant.
expectations were set when we fired a coach for winning 9 games a season. I know the standard come back is we were in the Big East but at what point to we stop making excuses and expect success.
 
expectations were set when we fired a coach for winning 9 games a season. I know the standard come back is we were in the Big East but at what point to we stop making excuses and expect success.

We fired a coach who was unqualified and in over his head. And, if I may add, at the time our expectations were certainly higher than 9 win seasons, as we had one of our best teams ever returning - and sadly, Stewart failed to produce anything of measure. Just because Dana is producing average results doesn't mean Stewart was any better. He inherited a coaches dream and squandered it. Dana, in his defense, inherited some nice individual talent and went out and won a conference championship and a BCS Bowl.

I don't know what our expectations are in the B12, or what Lyons feel is acceptable. I do know you're rooting against WVU, and it's football team just so Dana loses his job and I have a feeling your wishes will be granted. When our next coach only wins 7 games a season, you'll still be on this board trying to raise Stewart from the dead and WVU can have the status of being the only football program in America with a Weekend At Bernie's head coach.
 
expectations were set when we fired a coach for winning 9 games a season. I know the standard come back is we were in the Big East but at what point to we stop making excuses and expect success.

You're free expect whatever you want, but those are just wishes. Wish in one hand, crap in the other and tell me which gets full first.
 
5150...you are missing the point the DH lover boys are making. It apparently is now all about "cool" and "hip" and "video game style" and not wins and losses. Somehow a 56-42 loss is now better than a 21-17 win.
 
5150...you are missing the point the DH lover boys are making. It apparently is now all about "cool" and "hip" and "video game style" and not wins and losses. Somehow a 56-42 loss is now better than a 21-17 win.

You wouldn't know something cool and hip if it sat down on your face and wiggled and I doubt Dana would give you the pleasure anyways.
 
9 games a season on schedules missing nearly any top 25 opponents......


not excuses....................... reality.

The one time Dana played a schedule of equal value, he won 10.


Here are my "expectations"

9+ wins........... we've rebounded from one bad season with 7 wins and then 8. We get to 9 in 2016

Dana is progressing. If the QB doesn't blow off his play call against KSU, we'd have 9 wins last year anyways...
 
9 games a season on schedules missing nearly any top 25 opponents......


not excuses....................... reality.

The one time Dana played a schedule of equal value, he won 10.


Here are my "expectations"

9+ wins........... we've rebounded from one bad season with 7 wins and then 8. We get to 9 in 2016

Dana is progressing. If the QB doesn't blow off his play call against KSU, we'd have 9 wins last year anyways...

Won't be good enough. You better win every game if you want 5150's support. That man has standards. He wants undefeated seasons with rosters only filled with players from West Virginia.
 
Darth...you said it best..." I want my Head Coach to look like he gets lost on his way to the bathroom and drives with his turning signal on for 30 miles on the highway." You just didn't realize you were describing your current lover boy HC Dana. We forgive your oversight.
 
Darth..."You wouldn't know something cool and hip if it sat down on your face and wiggled and I doubt Dana would give you the pleasure anyways." Well...do you enjoy it? LOL
 
Won't be good enough. You better win every game if you want 5150's support. That man has standards. He wants undefeated seasons with rosters only filled with players from West Virginia.
so you don't think having the second most players drafted in the big 12 in relation to wins is a problem. No reason to not expect 9 wins seasons in the league with our talent, but Im sure 7 wins is just fine.
 
Like I've always said, they simply don't like him because he's not from WV.

RR is from WV and didn't want to coach here.

Saban is from WV and doesn't want to coach here.

Jumbo is from WV and doesn't want to coach here.

5150 wants Terry Bowden, it's no secret. I bet he's on Lyon's short list too.

I don't really care where the coach comes from as long as he maximizes the potential of the team with wins and losses. When it comes to NFL draft picks the fact that wvu is 2nd in putting players into the pros from the big 12 since we have been members doesn't exactly endorse the we can't - do better than 7-5 where in the Big 12 now. If you look at rivals recruiting rankings over the past 4-5 years outside of Texas and Oklahoma wvu classes are similar to the majority of the conference and are superior to K State, Iowa state, and Kansas. The Big 12 doesn't stock the NFL with talent so making excuses that we can't win more based on talent doesn't pass the sniff test
 
You can argue results, but I don't think Coach DHs work ethic should be questioned. By all accounts he's been busting his ass to win football games.

Well the amount of players he has put in the pro's over the last 4 years in comparison to wins and losses compared to the rest of the conference seem to indicate underachievement
 
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Darth..."You wouldn't know something cool and hip if it sat down on your face and wiggled and I doubt Dana would give you the pleasure anyways." Well...do you enjoy it? LOL

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so you don't think having the second most players drafted in the big 12 in relation to wins is a problem. No reason to not expect 9 wins seasons in the league with our talent, but Im sure 7 wins is just fine.

What does it matter if only a couple of them are from WV? I don't care about NFL talent, I want West Virginia kids to fill the roster because that's the only way we can win. We need to recruit the state and Dana isn't doing a good enough job.

Just the other day I read about a 5'9 205 lbs. Offensive Lineman from McDowell County. The kids got talent and Dana won't even visit him. We will never win if we let kids like him go and Dana spends all his time trying to recruit NFL level players, imo.
 
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so you don't think having the second most players drafted in the big 12 in relation to wins is a problem. No reason to not expect 9 wins seasons in the league with our talent, but Im sure 7 wins is just fine.

Yep, and Joseph was out for most of the season but I'm not sure you're argument is sound. Either way, the fact that you are spinning producing NFL talent as a negative just shows your agenda even more.

If we had no one drafted you'd be raising hell because Dana didn't develop players....you'll never be pleased until Terry Bowden is our coach and we are in the AAC.

My life doesn't change if we win 7 or 9 and I'll support the team either way.
 
Its the image he puts off, you know what I ment. It the laid back image, rather be hanging out then watching film image.

Dana's never put off that image whatsoever. You probably think everyone not from your small town is like that.
 
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