showing my age? Son I've been a fan through Nehlens entire career at WVU and before that.[/QUOTE
Either stupid or too young to know better.
PBODY - I agree with every word you wrote. Anyone that does not realize how tough the major powers in the east were in the years for 1980 to 1985 does not have a real clue about college football.I wish id read your post before you edited it out. I am pretty sure you hold coach nehlen in higher regard than the previous poster. I was in Morgantown for the Cignetti years. I can tell you Don was a breath of fresh air. and I didn't hate Cignetti. I mostly felt bad for him. Very bright man. but Don was a winner. he knew how to win and how to build a winner. he made us believe we could win. I remember being in Atlanta for the Peach Bowl and wondering how everybody could possibly pick Fl. to beat us. My buddies and I never once thought we even could lose. the next yr my roommate and I were in Norman and once again wondering how everyone thought UO could beat us. They hadn't lost a home opener since 1954 or something but we never even discussed losing. when we walked into the stadium I thought it was a dump. hay covered walkways and just dirty. When we made it to the stands there were probably 5000 or more WVU fans, many from our friend group in MOrgantown , sitting there all knowing we were going to win. Maybe we were naïve or just to drunk but that's the kind of belief Don gave us. granted he averaged out over time but outside beating Louisville and the introductiom of Pat and Steve, most all my favorite memories are from the Nehlen days. Even the BCS wins, as fun as they've been, haven't really given me the type of excitement and pride I felt with Coach Nehlen from 80 to probably 98. Even the down years were OK because you knew they wouldn't last. People also either don't know or cant remember the coaches who came thru here during Dons time here. The Nehlen coaching tree is pretty damn impressive.
Facts are facts when it comes to wins, losses, average wins per year. But so are the feelings many of my time will always hold dear and will always hold Don Nehlen in very high regrard. A HOF coach? If he had left in 89, I would have voted for him.
wrong. They did not play for a NC in 1993. Thanks for proving my point in this thread of "things WVU fans don't know".Thanks
10.). WVU did not play for a National Championship in 1993.
WVU did play for a national title in 1993. If they would have beaten Florida in sugar that year they would have split the title. Plain and simple.
you are very likely correct. As a member of the Big 12, WVU will never play such a weak schedule as that 1988 team did to finish undefeated. If Dana played that slate, he would be 11-0 as well.And that "very average coach" nehlen running the table and going 11-0 twice in the regular season - an amazing accomplishment at wvu that will not be touched again by another HC.
you are very likely correct. As a member of the Big 12, WVU will never play such a weak schedule as that 1988 team did to finish undefeated. If Dana played that slate, he would be 11-0 as well.
Did Nehlen **** one of your family members? It may be time to give it a rest.....we get it, Nehlen sucked, Miami sucked, Boston College w/ Flutie sucked, pitt with Marino sucked, VT with Vick sucked, Penn St sucked, Syracuse sucked, Maryland sucked, Ohio State sucked, Oklahoma sucked, Florida sucked, Notre Dame sucked,....they all sucked, Nehlen sucked....we get it.in fairness, there's really no way knowing WVU was "the best team in the country" before the injury. They played one team that finished above .500. Unless you count Pitt at 6-5 before their bowl loss. Syracuse was the only team above. The rest all had losing records.
I think you mean, "Yup-Yup Man." It's just freaking amazing how many people actually had conversations with him and remember the guy.
lmao you just named the only team (Syracuse) on that schedule a pulse. They were the only team to finish above .500 on the entire schedule. 9 opponents out of 11 had losing records lolReally....Dana just lost to K-State (and that was all on him). I'm not saying KSU sucks this season...just that WVU did play tougher teams in '88 (Syracuse comes to mind).
...plus his second undefeated regular season squad in '93 had plenty of pretty good teams on the schedule too.
Helps having buddies I imagine.
you are very likely correct. As a member of the Big 12, WVU will never play such a weak schedule as that 1988 team did to finish undefeated. If Dana played that slate, he would be 11-0 as well.
Pitt was 6-5 and did not play in a bowl game so Pitt was 6-5 as their final record. And several teams finished just below that level at 5-6. The 1988 team was men vs boys in most games. That may have been the best offensive live that we have had in the modern era.lmao you just named the only team (Syracuse) on that schedule a pulse. They were the only team to finish above .500 on the entire schedule. 9 opponents out of 11 had losing records lol
lmao you just named the only team (Syracuse) on that schedule a pulse. They were the only team to finish above .500 on the entire schedule. 9 opponents out of 11 had losing records lol
100 % correct Woody. Kevin Koken and the crew were a dominating OL. If I remember correctly, Nehlen would substitute out the whole OL on every third series. That team was loaded! They did not just win, they decimated the competition.Pitt was 6-5 and did not play in a bowl game so Pitt was 6-5 as their final record. And several teams finished just below that level at 5-6. The 1988 team was men vs boys in most games. That may have been the best offensive live that we have had in the modern era.
100 % correct Woody. Kevin Koken and the crew were a dominating OL. If I remember correctly, Nehlen would substitute out the whole OL on every third series. That team was loaded! They did not just win, they decimated the competition.
ignoring the 1993 season? They were massacred 41-7 in the sugar bowl. And they weren't playing for the NC. I remember it well.I see you continue to ignore the '93 season...while continuing (attempting anyway) to explain why ANY 11-0 season could possibly be easier than beating any 5-6 team.
Dana lost to a team with a losing record.....yet Don beating several on the way to an undefeated season is somehow less impressive ?
...lol, good stuff... ..for entertainment value I hope you continue to express that odd reasoning.
ignoring the 1993 season? They were massacred 41-7 in the sugar bowl. And they weren't playing for the NC. I remember it well.
Wvu was #2 in coaches poll, Nebraska #1, FSU #3. If WVU would have beaten #8 UF there would have been spilt national title. FSU would have won AP title, WVU would have won coaches.Other "opinions" differ with your "opinion". Let's face it, 1993 was before the BCS and final computer rankings and such. In some ways it is like today's "committee", except the verdict is final today. Then it was a matter of "opinion" on who was the top team after the bowls. IF, and it is a BIG IF, WVU had beaten UF and FSU had lost there may have well been a split decision on the top slot.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/185127-the-story-of-the-undefeated-1993-wvu-football-season#
So punisher are you saying WVU would not have moved into the #1 spot in the coaches poll with a win over UF? Coaches favored WVU that year and they were #2 going into the bowl. With a win they would have been 12-0, FSU 11-1. Split title.wrong. They did not play for a NC in 1993. Thanks for proving my point in this thread of "things WVU fans don't know".
Fans born after 1995 don't know about the 'juke' move. Do they? Some of the kids heard about the juke move right here on this website ................ from ole Warez.............for the very first time. They still don't know anything about it. Some of the newer folks don't even believe the juke move is real!