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Thoughts on the new BLM helmet sticker?

This is a move by WVU that injects politics squarely into its athletic program. This type of action (more than any perceived Covid-19 fallout) will diminish fan support. Will players' requests to use Trump and Biden helmet stickers or uniform patches be granted? Just play football.

Maybe Im wrong but I wouldn't say this is a "move by WVU" as much as it was likely a move by the players that was approved.
Hey moron when you support domestic terrorist you don't have peace in your heart. That's why you educate the children to look for peaceful organizations to advance their cause. You continue to post support for marxist organizations under numerous handles. Eventually others are going to catch on to why you do that.

WTF are you talking about? Why are you accusing me of posting under different handles? Would like like to take this to Vernon and see if I am posting under anything other than my 20-year-old handle? Then STFU and debate like a man instead of restoring to name-calling and false accusations.
 
the thing is the players are 18-22 years old. 98 percent of them have no clue what "black lives matter" is. they see the words which are true. However, the players do not know it is an organization that raises money then doesn't give that money to any black people.

Again the words black lives matter are fine. we all understand the words. it's the organization that is the lowest piece of scum on earth and also, again I don't think our players understand it's more than words.


That said there are some players on the team that I know do not support blm the org.

Most probably don't even know who Martin Luther King was.
 
Maybe Im wrong but I wouldn't say this is a "move by WVU" as much as it was likely a move by the players that was approved.


WTF are you talking about? Why are you accusing me of posting under different handles? Would like like to take this to Vernon and see if I am posting under anything other than my 20-year-old handle? Then STFU and debate like a man instead of restoring to name-calling and false accusations.

How about we take it higher up?
 
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Maybe Im wrong but I wouldn't say this is a "move by WVU" as much as it was likely a move by the players that was approved.
This is a guess, and maybe a good guess, but it has to be a move by WVU because ultimately they own the circumstance to wear the uniform. It's theirs including the BLM sticker.
 
This is a guess, and maybe a good guess, but it has to be a move by WVU because ultimately they own the circumstance to wear the uniform. It's theirs including the BLM sticker.

I hear ya but I cannot see Shane or Coach Brown suggesting they put the sticker on but maybe I wrong there. I can totally see a group of player reps asking how they can show their support.
 
I know people of all walks of life, all colors, and of all tax brackets supporting BLM and I can guarantee you not a one believes in anything approaching Marxism.
There are no shortage of idiots supporting things without knowing what they’re supporting. Reminds me of the episode of The Man Show when the kid was circulating a petition to end women’s suffrage and people were ardently supportive of it....women.
 
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Whatever some of the founder's political beliefs are BLM isn't especially anti-capitalistic. Anyway, as for today, it has morphed into a mass movement with the theme of racial justice. That is what 95% of its supporters, including the players, believe in and by extension that is what BLM has come to symbolize. While politically expedient, trying to label what is happening now as being some sort of Marxist uprising is asinine and frankly desperate. I know people of all walks of life, all colors, and of all tax brackets supporting BLM and I can guarantee you not a one believes in anything approaching Marxism.

Similar thing could have been said about the Tea Party. Libertarians who founded a movement to fight against expanding government and taxes, but was co-opted and used by religious conservatives.
 
I hear ya but I cannot see Shane or Coach Brown suggesting they put the sticker on but maybe I wrong there. I can totally see a group of player reps asking how they can show their support.

Then you tell then no. Find a different organization. Be leaders and take a stand and assist them in finding a better way to bring attention to their cause. BLM should not be given a platform period.
 
You ever watch ‘United Shades of America’s hosted by Kamau Bell? He did an episode a few years ago that highlighted the BLM movement and how it got started by 3 women. Really good episode.

I have seen the ads. I have seen one episode; it was good.
 
I hear ya but I cannot see Shane or Coach Brown suggesting they put the sticker on but maybe I wrong there. I can totally see a group of player reps asking how they can show their support.
How do you suppose WVU is going to square this support for an anti-Semitic organization with its Jewish following and student base?
 
I hear ya but I cannot see Shane or Coach Brown suggesting they put the sticker on but maybe I wrong there. I can totally see a group of player reps asking how they can show their support.
They can show their support off the field.
 
Similar thing could have been said about the Tea Party. Libertarians who founded a movement to fight against expanding government and taxes, but was co-opted and used by religious conservatives.

It was also used as cover for far-right extremists. I agree, BLM, is being used as cover for fringe elements to cause destruction. If Trump gets re-elected it will be due to douche bag optimists out there taking advantage of the situations for their own ends.
 
I hear ya but I cannot see Shane or Coach Brown suggesting they put the sticker on but maybe I wrong there. I can totally see a group of player reps asking how they can show their support.

The NCAA allowed for a statement logo on the front of the jersey and the ability to change the name on the back to a social justice warrior....The Helmet is WVU domain...unless they agreed to swap the helmet for the front of the jersey...and Nike might have had something to do with that.
 
I am not interested in my college football team becoming a political statement. i want my football team to play football.

One expects the leadership of WVU to lead, not simply bend to the prevailing winds. Racial equality should be a human right. How it is achieved is another story. There are better, more substantive ways to work toward racial equality than slapping a sticker of a shadowy organization that thrives by its use of a worthy-sounding name, but which does not follow the principles it espouses to the public. Among other things, the leadership of BLM is mired in anti-semitism.

https://carolineglick.com/black-lives-matters-anti-semitic-platform/

https://clarionproject.org/blm-protesters-blatant-antisemitism/

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020...r-dodging-questions-on-finances-antisemitism/

https://collive.com/rabbis-call-on-black-lives-matter-to-purge-anti-semitism/

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/07/black-lives-matters-anti-semitism-blind-spot/

Black athlete Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has questioned the BLM movement in this regard, also.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...utrage-anti-semitism-sports-hollywood-1303210

This is a move by WVU that injects politics squarely into its athletic program. This type of action (more than any perceived Covid-19 fallout) will diminish fan support. Will players' requests to use Trump and Biden helmet stickers or uniform patches be granted? Just play football.

I'm guessing 80% of the team is African American. You think telling the football players, "no, were not putting the BLM sticker on our helmets" goes over well with the team? I'm guessing the whole team walks out and there is no season.

This isn't injecting politics in the athletic program. This is embracing racial justice and racial equality. You think the federal government forbids employees from wearing BLM? No. The federal government embraces equality; it has a zero tolerance policy for racism and discrimination. You think the federal government allows Biden and Trump stickers, badges, pins, paraphernalia, etc? No. It is apolitical. The BLM is viewed by the federal government as apolitical. Just the same as promoting LGBTQ rights.

If WVU embracing racial justice and racial equality costs them fans, I'm guessing they will take that chance and be on the right side of history. I'm guessing they couldn't care less if they lose racist fans. If a BLM helmet sticker bothers you, you need to check yourself - you are a racist and I welcome you and anyone to leave our fan base.
 
You do know that the person you agreed with is a known racist on this site? He has made multiple racists statements in the past....the company you keep.

I'm not racist and you know it and everyone on this board knows it. There are a bunch of racists on this board, evidenced by this very thread.
 
I'm guessing 80% of the team is African American. You think telling the football players, "no, were not putting the BLM sticker on our helmets" goes over well with the team? I'm guessing the whole team walks out and there is no season.

This isn't injecting politics in the athletic program. This is embracing racial justice and racial equality. You think the federal government forbids employees from wearing BLM? No. The federal government embraces equality; it has a zero tolerance policy for racism and discrimination. You think the federal government allows Biden and Trump stickers, badges, pins, paraphernalia, etc? No. It is apolitical. The BLM is viewed by the federal government as apolitical. Just the same as promoting LGBTQ rights.

If WVU embracing racial justice and racial equality costs them fans, I'm guessing they will take that chance and be on the right side of history. I'm guessing they couldn't care less if they lose racist fans. If a BLM helmet sticker bothers you, you need to check yourself - you are a racist and I welcome you and anyone to leave our fan base.

What? Are you serious Clark? The gov. is not political...really...that is just funny...really funny. On top of that, are you saying that all minorities that play on WVU's football team thinks the same....more talking points from Biden I see....your racism always shows.
 
What? Are you serious Clark? The gov. is not political...really...that is just funny...really funny. On top of that, are you saying that all minorities that play on WVU's football team thinks the same....more talking points from Biden I see....your racism always shows.

When you can't argue valid points, call someone a racist.

Y'all go ahead and tell them black players to shut their pie holes, tear off the stickers and play football.

Didn't someone tell LeBron to "shut up and dribble?" You all are so "woke."
 
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We have many racist fans who see the student-athletes as chattel. I agree with that part of what he said.

Maybe you need to hang around better people...please give me an example, as I have never heard anyone say anything that resembles that statement in the last 20 years. I will hang up and listen....I have heard my liberal friends make those statements but I have yet to hear it in person (in the last 20 years)
 
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What? Are you serious Clark? The gov. is not political...really...that is just funny...really funny. On top of that, are you saying that all minorities that play on WVU's football team thinks the same....more talking points from Biden I see....your racism always shows.

The military doesn't allow political garbage from either side on it's uniforms. KKKcunty with more lies. What a dumbass.
 
What? Are you serious Clark? The gov. is not political...really...that is just funny...really funny. On top of that, are you saying that all minorities that play on WVU's football team thinks the same....more talking points from Biden I see....your racism always shows.

I'm sure all of the black members of the football team do not think alike as political monoliths rarely, if ever, exist. One thing is for sure though...student-athletes of the revenue sports have crystallized that the product does not exist without them so because of that, a shift towards labor has occurred.
 
I'm sure all of the black members of the football team do not think alike as political monoliths rarely, if ever, exist. One thing is for sure though...student-athletes of the revenue sports have crystallized that the product does not exist without them so because of that, a shift towards labor has occurred.
Spoken like a socialist...well guess what there is no product, if no one is buying it.
 
I'm not racist and you know it and everyone on this board knows it. There are a bunch of racists on this board, evidenced by this very thread.

Really, I have read your very words...in this thread you grouped all blacks into a singular thought based solely on skin color...that is what racism is...I truly believe you are a racist...you have written way too many things that support my view.
 
Maybe you need hang around better people...please give me an example, as I have never heard anyone say anything that resembles that statement in the last 20 years. I will hang up and listen....I have heard my liberal friends make those statements but I have yet to hear it in person (in the last 20 years)

You tend to post in hyperbole my friend. It is difficult for one to remember 20 months ago let alone 20 years. Your last sentence is telling in that because you claim that a non-liberal has not said it in the vicinity of you (something I do not believe) that it cannot exist? If I don't see it, it doesn't exist. Sounds familiar.
 
When you can't argue valid points, call someone a racist.

Y'all go ahead and tell them black players to shut their pie holes, tear off the stickers and play football.

Didn't someone tell LeBron to "shut up and dribble?" You all are so "woke."

This guy did. And Lebron complied.

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Spoken like a socialist...well guess what there is no product, if no one is buying it.

I'm buying it and clowns like you will as well. You'll watch the games, same as I. You'll return to this board, same as I. Something tells me you just like to bitch. It is your right to do so but it's an ugly trait to have. Be happy - a lot to enjoy and live for other than the football team.
 
When you can't argue valid points, call someone a racist.

Y'all go ahead and tell them black players to shut their pie holes, tear off the stickers and play football.

Didn't someone tell LeBron to "shut up and dribble?" You all are so "woke."

Really,,,the whole BLM is about racism...you are the problem...and let's not even get into name calling...you are the poster child of that...X10!
 
We have many racist fans who see the student-athletes as chattel. I agree with that part of what he said.

Leo Terell is a liberal black civil rights attorney who has been warning anyone who will listen about BLM. These athletes have an opportunity to receive a free education and better their lives. Unlike the G.I. Bill they don't have to go to real war to get it.

 
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