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Well the more things change the more they stay the same. They only thing that has changed is the BE has lost thier AQ status. But to be honest IF they do this the right way it is more fair to all the other conferences. It looks like there will be 3 open seats (sometimes 4) that if a team wins big from the other conferences they have a chance to get in.

I broke down the last six season under this new format and this is what it would look like.
*I have dollar amounts below

Really only one game would be a tough decision-2007 Orange -I see them taking a #12 UF over Hawaii and Zona St .

This is how it broke down with school in their conference at the time (I just included Boise and Hawaii in the MWC for number sakes).

Playoff Appearances
SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........5............1...............3........ ....3.............1..............2

Non Playoff appearances

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........8.............7.............10........ ...5.............2...............7

Total Appearances
SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
18.........13...........8..............13......... ..8.............3..............9

Playoffs for teams in conference 2014

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........7............1..............3......... ...3..............1..............0

Total appearances for teams in conference 2014

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
19.........15...........8..............13......... ..9............7...............1

2006 SEC (4) B1G (3) BE (2) B12 (1) ACC (1) PAC (1)
2007 SEC (3) B12 (3) ACC (2) B1G (2) PAC (1) MWC (1)
2008 SEC (3) B12 (3) B1G (2) PAC (2) BE (1) ACC (1)
2009 B1G (3) SEC (2) BE (2) ACC (2) B1G (2) PAC (1)
2010 B1G (3) SEC (3) PAC (2) B12 (2) ACC (1) BE (1)
2011 SEC (4) B12 (3) PAC (2) B1G (1) ACC (1) BE (1)

I figured that getting into the playoffs would be worth $30M per team and getting into a BCS type bowl would be $20M. Here is what the teams would have brought home to their conferences in the six year period.

Conference Playoff $ Bowl $ Total
SEC $270,000,000 $200,000,000 $470,000,000
B12 $210,000,000 $160,000,000 $370,000,000
B1G $90,000,000 $200,000,000 $290,000,000
PAC $90,000,000 $120,000,000 $210,000,000
ACC $30,000,000 $140,000,000 $170,000,000
BE $30,000,000 $120,000,000 $150,000,000
MWC $0 $20,000,000 $20,000,000

In a way all the conferences except the MWC are winners and losers. All the conferences have strong 1 and 2s that if they win will always be highly ranked B12-OU/UT, B1G UM/tOST ect. But where the money is going to come from is being strong in the 3 and 4 slot.

B12
Win with WVU and TCU (as long as they continue to win) they strenghten the upper middle of the conference, if we add FSU I would put them in this pool as well.
Loss Can't really seen any downside for the B12

SEC
Win Picking up aTm and Mizzou gives the upper crust of the conference two quality wins, in a good year either one could sneak into the top 12
Loss they have to share the pot with two more teams

B1G
Win Adding Neb strenghtens the upper middle, typically either Penn St, Wisky or Neb will win enough games to get them a possible 3rd team in or a number two if tOST or Mich stumble.
Loss Nothing much

PAC
Win they added Colorado and Utah for the playoff game, Utah could start winning again and that would help.
Loss Stanford had a good run but can they keep it up. How the conference does is really dependant on Rich Rod, Leech, and Gramham. How the league is right now they can only hope for 1 maybe 2 teams a year.

ACC
Win kept their seat at the table
Loss by adding Pitt and Cuse it does nothing for the conference football programs. Pitt and Cuse will follow the BC and Miami paths, win at first because there are so many cupcakes but after a few years they will become a typical basketball first ACC team. They have two more mouths to feed and will be bringing in much less money than the other "power" conferences. They really need FSU (if they stay) to find their Mojo again.

BE
Win It looks like UL and Cincy are back, and RU is looking up. They loose a two teams that are usally at the bottom of the cellar so their SOS should go up. If Boise can continue to win they will do fine.
Loss they lost their seat at the table, but a 1 loss BE will be ranked in the top 15 giving them a chance. Need to strenghten their OCC schedules and stop playing ACC teams.

Overall if two of non OU/UT B12 teams keep winning 10 games year and OU/UT can remain elite (I know UT needs to get back their Mojo) we should get 3-4 teams in every year.
 
Well the more things change the more they stay the same. They only thing that has changed is the BE has lost thier AQ status. But to be honest IF they do this the right way it is more fair to all the other conferences. It looks like there will be 3 open seats (sometimes 4) that if a team wins big from the other conferences they have a chance to get in.

I broke down the last six season under this new format and this is what it would look like.
*I have dollar amounts below
2011
Fiesta..........Rose..............Cotton..........Sugar...........Chick fil........Orange





Playoff ........B1G v PAC......At Large......SEC v B12...Play off.........ACC v At Large
1 LSU..........4 Stanford.......7 Boise........6 Arky.........2 Bama.........11 VT
5 Oregon.....10 Wisky.........12 Baylor.....8 KST.........3 OKST.........9 USCe
.....................................or 13 Mich
......................................or 14 OU
2010
Fiesta...........Rose..............Cotton...........Sugar............Chick fil......... Orange
B1G v PAC....Playoff...........SEC v B12.....Play off.........At Large.......... ACC v At Large
5 Wisky........1 Auburn.........8 Arky..........2 Oregon.......6 Ohio St.............13 VT*
10 Boise*...... 4 Stanford......7 OU............3 TCU............11 LSU................9 Mich ST





2009
Fiesta..........Rose..............Cotton............Sugar............Chick fil ...........Orange
At Large.......B1G v PAC.....Playoff...........SEC v B12......ACC v At Large..Play off
6 Boise........7 Oregon........2 Texas..........5 Florida.........9 GT.................1 Bama
11 VT..........8 Ohio St........3 Cincy..........19 OKST*.......10 Iowa*............4 TCU


2008
Fiesta.........Rose..............Cotton............Sugar...............Chick fil..........Orange
Playoff........B1G v PAC......At Large........SEC v B12.........Play off..........ACC v At Large
1 OU..........5 USC.............7 Tech...........6 Utah...............2 Florida.........14 GT
4 Bama......8 Penn St........15 UGA.........10 Ohio ST.........3 Texas..........9 Boise


2007
Fiesta..........Rose...............Cotton............Sugar................Chick fil...........Orange
B1G v PAC ..Playoff.............SEC v B12..... Play off ............At Large..........ACC v At Large
7 USC..........2 LSU..............5 UGA............1 Ohio St..........8 Kansas.........14 Boston Col
13 Illinios......3 VT................6 Mizzou.........4 OU................9 WVU.............10 Hawaii
.....................................................................................................or 11 Zona St
.....................................................................................................or 12 Florida
2006
Fiesta..........Rose................Cotton............Sugar................Chick fil...............Orange
At Large...... B1G v PAC....... Playoff...........SEC v B12.........ACC v At Large ...Play off
8 Boise........6 USC...............1 Ohio St.......9 Auburn............14 Wake.............2 Florida
9 Auburn......7 Wisky.............4 LSU...........10 OU................6 Louisville..........3 Michigan


Really only one game would be a tough decision-2007 Orange-I see them taking a #12 UF over Hawaii and Zona St.

This is how it broke down with school in their conference at the time (I just included Boise and Hawaii in the MWC for number sakes).

Playoff Appearances
SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........5............1...............3........ ....3.............1..............2

Non Playoff appearances

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........8.............7.............10........ ...5.............2...............7

Total Appearances
SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
18.........13...........8..............13......... ..8.............3..............9

Playoffs for teams in conference 2014

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........7............1..............3......... ...3..............1..............0

Total appearances for teams in conference 2014

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
19.........15...........8..............13......... ..9............7...............1

2006 SEC (4) B1G (3) BE (2) B12 (1) ACC (1) PAC (1)
2007 SEC (3) B12 (3) ACC (2) B1G (2) PAC (1) MWC (1)
2008 SEC (3) B12 (3) B1G (2) PAC (2) BE (1) ACC (1)
2009 B1G (3) SEC (2) BE (2) ACC (2) B1G (2) PAC (1)
2010 B1G (3) SEC (3) PAC (2) B12 (2) ACC (1) BE (1)
2011 SEC (4) B12 (3) PAC (2) B1G (1) ACC (1) BE (1)

I figured that getting into the playoffs would be worth $30M per team and getting into a BCS type bowl would be $20M. Here is what the teams would have brought home to their conferences in the six year period.

Conference Playoff $ Bowl $ Total
SEC $270,000,000 $200,000,000 $470,000,000
B12 $210,000,000 $160,000,000 $370,000,000
B1G $90,000,000 $200,000,000 $290,000,000
PAC $90,000,000 $120,000,000 $210,000,000
ACC $30,000,000 $140,000,000 $170,000,000
BE $30,000,000 $120,000,000 $150,000,000
MWC $0 $20,000,000 $20,000,000

In a way all the conferences except the MWC are winners and losers. All the conferences have strong 1 and 2s that if they win will always be highly ranked B12-OU/UT, B1G UM/tOST ect. But where the money is going to come from is being strong in the 3 and 4 slot.

B12
Win with WVU and TCU (as long as they continue to win) they strenghten the upper middle of the conference, if we add FSU I would put them in this pool as well.
Loss Can't really seen any downside for the B12

SEC
Win Picking up aTm and Mizzou gives the upper crust of the conference two quality wins, in a good year either one could sneak into the top 12
Loss they have to share the pot with two more teams

B1G
Win Adding Neb strenghtens the upper middle, typically either Penn St, Wisky or Neb will win enough games to get them a possible 3rd team in or a number two if tOST or Mich stumble.
Loss Nothing much

PAC
Win they added Colorado and Utah for the playoff game, Utah could start winning again and that would help.
Loss Stanford had a good run but can they keep it up. How the conference does is really dependant on Rich Rod, Leech, and Gramham. How the league is right now they can only hope for 1 maybe 2 teams a year.

ACC
Win kept their seat at the table
Loss by adding Pitt and Cuse it does nothing for the conference football programs. Pitt and Cuse will follow the BC and Miami paths, win at first because there are so many cupcakes but after a few years they will become a typical basketball first ACC team. They have two more mouths to feed and will be bringing in much less money than the other "power" conferences. They really need FSU (if they stay) to find their Mojo again.

BE
Win It looks like UL and Cincy are back, and RU is looking up. They loose a two teams that are usally at the bottom of the cellar so their SOS should go up. If Boise can continue to win they will do fine.
Loss they lost their seat at the table, but a 1 loss BE will be ranked in the top 15 giving them a chance. Need to strenghten their OCC schedules and stop playing ACC teams.

Overall if two of non OU/UT B12 teams keep winning 10 games year and OU/UT can remain elite (I know UT needs to get back their Mojo) we should get 3-4 teams in every year.






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I broke down the last six season under this new format and this is what it would look like.
*I have dollar amounts below





2011
Fiesta..........Rose..............Cotton..........Sugar...........Chick fil........Orange


Playoff ........B1G v PAC......At Large......SEC v B12...Play off.........ACC v At Large
1 LSU..........4 Stanford.......7 Boise........6 Arky.........2 Bama.........11 VT
5 Oregon.....10 Wisky.........12 Baylor.....8 KST.........3 OKST.........9 USCe
.....................................or 13 Mich
......................................or 14 OU
2010
Fiesta...........Rose..............Cotton...........Sugar............Chick fil......... Orange
B1G v PAC....Playoff...........SEC v B12.....Play off.........At Large.......... ACC v At Large
5 Wisky........1 Auburn.........8 Arky..........2 Oregon.......6 Ohio St.............13 VT*
10 Boise*...... 4 Stanford......7 OU............3 TCU............11 LSU................9 Mich ST








2009
Fiesta..........Rose..............Cotton............Sugar............Chick fil ...........Orange
At Large.......B1G v PAC.....Playoff...........SEC v B12......ACC v At Large..Play off
6 Boise........7 Oregon........2 Texas..........5 Florida.........9 GT.................1 Bama
11 VT..........8 Ohio St........3 Cincy..........19 OKST*.......10 Iowa*............4 TCU


2008
Fiesta.........Rose..............Cotton............Sugar...............Chick fil..........Orange
Playoff........B1G v PAC......At Large........SEC v B12.........Play off..........ACC v At Large
1 OU..........5 USC.............7 Tech...........6 Utah...............2 Florida.........14 GT
4 Bama......8 Penn St........15 UGA.........10 Ohio ST.........3 Texas..........9 Boise


2007
Fiesta..........Rose...............Cotton............Sugar................Chick fil...........Orange
B1G v PAC ..Playoff.............SEC v B12..... Play off ............At Large..........ACC v At Large
7 USC..........2 LSU..............5 UGA............1 Ohio St..........8 Kansas.........14 Boston Col
13 Illinios......3 VT................6 Mizzou.........4 OU................9 WVU.............10 Hawaii
.....................................................................................................or 11 Zona St
.....................................................................................................or 12 Florida
2006
Fiesta..........Rose................Cotton............Sugar................Chick fil...............Orange
At Large...... B1G v PAC....... Playoff...........SEC v B12.........ACC v At Large ...Play off
8 Boise........6 USC...............1 Ohio St.......9 Auburn............14 Wake.............2 Florida
9 Auburn......7 Wisky.............4 LSU...........10 OU................6 Louisville..........3 Michigan


Really only one game would be a tough decision-2007 Orange-I see them taking a #12 UF over Hawaii and Zona St.

This is how it broke down with school in their conference at the time (I just included Boise and Hawaii in the MWC for number sakes).

Playoff Appearances
SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........5............1...............3........ ....3.............1..............2

Non Playoff appearances

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........8.............7.............10........ ...5.............2...............7

Total Appearances
SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
18.........13...........8..............13......... ..8.............3..............9

Playoffs for teams in conference 2014

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
9...........7............1..............3......... ...3..............1..............0

Total appearances for teams in conference 2014

SEC........B12.........ACC..........B1G.........PA C.........BE.............MWC
19.........15...........8..............13......... ..9............7...............1

2006 SEC (4) B1G (3) BE (2) B12 (1) ACC (1) PAC (1)
2007 SEC (3) B12 (3) ACC (2) B1G (2) PAC (1) MWC (1)
2008 SEC (3) B12 (3) B1G (2) PAC (2) BE (1) ACC (1)
2009 B1G (3) SEC (2) BE (2) ACC (2) B1G (2) PAC (1)
2010 B1G (3) SEC (3) PAC (2) B12 (2) ACC (1) BE (1)
2011 SEC (4) B12 (3) PAC (2) B1G (1) ACC (1) BE (1)

I figured that getting into the playoffs would be worth $30M per team and getting into a BCS type bowl would be $20M. Here is what the teams (2014) would have brought home to their conferences in the six year period.

Conf.....Playoff $.............. Bowl $................... Total....................Team (6 years)/per Year
SEC ....$270,000,000......$200,000,000........$470,000,000............$33M/$5.6M/y
B12......$210,000,000......$160,000,000........$370,000,000............$37M/$6.2M/y
B1G.....$90,000,000........$200,000,000........$290,000,000............$24M/$4M/y
PAC.....$90,000,000........$120,000,000........$210,000,000............$17.5M/$2.9M/y
ACC.....$30,000,000........$140,000,000........$170,000,000............$12M/2M/y
BE.......$30,000,000........$120,000,000........$150,000,000............$12.5M/$2M/y
MWC...$0.......................$20,000,000.........$20,000,000..............$2M/$333K




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