Dana needs to win.
I'm happy for him, I have defended him. I feel he is a quality coach.
If hes a good coach he can win @ Houston.
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Dana needs to win.
I'm happy for him, I have defended him. I feel he is a quality coach.
If hes a good coach he can win @ Houston.
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This was a fluff piece which Dana obviously commissioned and controlled.
Fyi, let me party in a limo on the way to a MLB first pitch and I will write something more flattering, and believable.
This was a fluff piece which Dana obviously commissioned and controlled.
Fyi, let me party in a limo on the way to a MLB first pitch and I will write something more flattering, and believable.
They cut out the part of Dana doing lines with the news anchor.
She was putting those nostrils to use in a couple of different ways with Dana.
She was putting those nostrils to use in a couple of different ways with Dana.
There are some things on offense I like.
No one is giving him credit for Wesco.
So far...
Supposedly Dana was all in on Top QB Hayes King. Was going to put UH as the program to beat. King for some is a big deal. Is the main reason why Longview finally broke through and won their first state championship in 80 years.
But it didn't happen. King grew up a LSU fan.
Even as a supposed Top 5 QB LSU doesn't want him so you would have thought Dana had a chance.
So Dana Holgersen hasn't made any noise on the recruiting trail.
He has been there for four months.
Only thing he has done is what he did at WV. Waste scholarships on transfers.
They still have a chance with Malik Hornsby who included them in his Top schools list.
Truthfully think he ends up at UNC.
He is a potential Lamar Jackson type QB. Just needs to improve his throwing.
If Dana can get him it would go a long way.
I wouldn’t say the scholarships have been wasted on transfers because we have gotten some good players who truly helped. He just focused too much on getting transfers as a bailout on the lack of effort he put into recruiting high school players. With the transfers, he just looked at what spots he had open and thought he could find someone at another school desperate to get a starting spot or in need of a new home for personal reasons and basically told them they would most likely come in and be the starter right away at a power 5 school.
I think Dana looks at the Ed Oliver situation and thinks it must be easy to convince local Houston 5 star talent to sign with Houston. Oliver was an anomoly and not the norm. The big talent in Houston is still gonna go to SEC and B12 schools.
I think Dana saw the writing on the wall at WVU as was eluded to in the article and knew he was probably gonna struggle this year if he stayed at WVU. Most likely he would have been let go, and Shane Lyons could then bring in his own guy. He figures he can do all his recruiting in Houston and then go out for drinks and then go home and sleep in his own bed every night or at least some local’s bed every night.
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You’re the only tool that entertains this guy. Troll him like the rest of us and stop being a loser.
Seriously who cares. Dana and his PR team need to stop spinning this and tell the truth. Nobody in WV is upset he left. In fact, the majority were thrilled he did. The truth is, Dana was smart enough to see the writing on the wall. He had underachieved big time and last year was his year. He knew he was gonna be fired after 2019 because he didn’t have the talent to win enough coming back. Rumor is, he asked for a long term extension and was told “No, it’s gonna be year to year”. Translation, you’re on thin ice.
Ed Oliver is the first 5 star who is a 5 star by every ranking to play at a G5.
It was a combination of things that kept Oliver.
At the current time
They have Vernon Broughton in the Houston area. His mom is connected with the UH women's basketball program.
Oliver never had these connections to Cougar High.
So far Broughton who is only a high 4 star is looking at Texas, A&M, Alabama and LSU.
Dana is as oddball.
The UH DL coach is a nobody.
UH had Oscar Giles who went back to Texas when Herman was there.
He is country smooth with the recruits and their families.
Assistant coaches are more important than head coaches in recruiting
It was a combination of things that kept Oliver.
At the current time
They have Vernon Broughton in the Houston area. His mom is connected with the UH women's basketball program.
Oliver never had these connections to Cougar High.
So far Broughton who is only a high 4 star is looking at Texas, A&M, Alabama and LSU.
Dana is as oddball.
The UH DL coach is a nobody.
UH had Oscar Giles who went back to Texas when Herman was there.
He is country smooth with the recruits and their families.
Assistant coaches are more important than head coaches in recruiting
Yeah I generally agree, but I'm not so sure he really underachieved. WVU has never had a talent advantage against the top of the league.
Last season we had good talent in key spots, but that is not the same as having top to bottom talent.
Oklahoma wins the conference regularly because each year they have a talent advantage over the rest of the pack, or equal talent.
You cant have good talent 1 season and expect to win the league...you need to have it EVERY season, then you'll win a few of them.
Its unrealistic to expect a coach to out scheme his opponents each game, every game. No coach does. That isn't a strategy to win consistently...at some point we need to recruit at a higher level.
Which is precisely what HC Dana Clueless didn't do lol. He should have been fired years before. ..a childish and immature wanna be.
He is in a good position. Houston is a place where you can win, and his record at WVU isnt a bad one.
If he wins big at Houston he will definitely be looked at for other major positions. Strategically it is a good move.
What WVU coach really has?
We did well in the Big East because most seasons we had the talent advantage, but we've never had equal talent to Oklahoma or Texas.
Frankly, this isnt a problem which gets solved by one coach.
DN, RR and BS. Red Bull didn't give a damn about things...his excuses are pathetic.
He plays Oklahoma this year.
Luckily he plays Oklahoma early.
Last time Oklahoma went into the season with this many questions on the OL it was 2016.
Houston beat the shit out of them at NRG.
They may not have Ed Oliver but they still have overall depth on the DL.
Should be an interesting game and will really prove how good of a coach Dana is.
He cannot lose that game 52-20 or something.
Oklahoma has talent but their talent is only as good as Jalen Hurts and their OL.
Both have questions.
They have 4 new starters on the OLine. All 4 will eventually be good but how fast is the question.
Luckily he plays Oklahoma early.
Last time Oklahoma went into the season with this many questions on the OL it was 2016.
Houston beat the shit out of them at NRG.
They may not have Ed Oliver but they still have overall depth on the DL.
Should be an interesting game and will really prove how good of a coach Dana is.
He cannot lose that game 52-20 or something.
Oklahoma has talent but their talent is only as good as Jalen Hurts and their OL.
Both have questions.
They have 4 new starters on the OLine. All 4 will eventually be good but how fast is the question.
Michigan is the only place that knows how to use those stones. The other was given to them as a kidney stone. Painful right.
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So if you say your stroking your meat does that mean you're actually stroking theirs?
Dana is a very undisciplined HC, and that was his downfall here and will be at Houston. He’s a classic example of a guy with a ton of potential but never reaches it.
He was a head coach at a major university, won an orange bowl and is considered a top level offensive coach.
Now he is at another good program....positioned pretty well in the college football world.
Not to mention he has made millions of dollars and has a great contract to make even more.
If you failed to reach potential as well as him you'd be lucky.
I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head, Dana is the coach I have always been terrified WVU would hire. Wins just enough that you can’t justify firing him, but will never win anything meaningful.
Yep...never won anything meaningful, like an Orange Bowl or something like that
I agree with you, at least on the millions of dollars part. Dana might be undisciplined but he ain’t dumb.
I agree he might be undisciplined, which I mentioned earlier from the article about running late.
But I dont think that was his problem.
His problem was he played against teams which usually had a lopsided talent advantage and was continually forced to win with scheme.
If you play 10 teams, and 3 have better talent and 4 have equal talent...its not easy win consistently.
I do firmly blame him for the Ok State loss. That's when I knew he was moving on.
Been downhill since, you can’t ride one game forever, I remember a pinstripe bowl the next year that sticks out a little more.
That’s how Dana felt, and most times you get about what you expect to get.
Problem for Dana is that the fanbase expected more.
They still do with Neal Brown. I am sure this same converstation about Neal Brown will happen in 5-6 years.
Would we have beaten the rest of the Big 12 that year.
I don't see WV ever going through the conference undefeated unless they recruit to at least a Top 20 level.
