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GAME THREAD WVU vs. Kansas State

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Radio silence.

And we look great so far.
Just glued to the TV. We look good in places. Culver is learning quickly. Knapper didn't raise his stock in his brief appearance. Odd to see Bolden, Harler and Haley on the floor at the same time.
 
I like seeing Haley get better and more confident. Culver is a beast. Amazing what we can do when our shots are falling.
 
Well ... Huggy and his lame ass motion offense just blew a 20 point lead. I feel sorry for our players trying to run that lame ass offense.

Just plain DUMB.
 
Nothing from Bolden, very little from Harris, Knapper was awful, Ahmad looked better as a freshman. Haley was a pleasant surprise tonight. McCabe was OK. Matthews played but brought nothing. Culver looked good. West was hitting shots. We got way up because K State couldn't make a shot. We lost the lead because K State couldn't miss.
 
I would love to see what the plus/minus is with Ahmad in and not in. He is terrible. Bench him and take his minutes and give to someone else.
 
Well ... Huggy and his lame ass motion offense just blew a 20 point lead. I feel sorry for our players trying to run that lame ass offense.

Just plain DUMB.
He really earned that paycheck tonight. The football team is starting anew, I'd be surprised if Lyons isn't secretly greasing the gears of moving the basket program into a "new phase."
 
He really earned that paycheck tonight. The football team is starting anew, I'd be surprised if Lyons isn't secretly greasing the gears of moving the basket program into a "new phase."

There's a reason why Huggs assistants have stayed so long with him.......and that's not a good thing. Maybe it's time to start with that. Bring in Mazzulla or Nichols as associate head coach.
 
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Still not fixed.
Don't worry, ole Huggs will fix it. We've got 12 threadmills with no handles running full blast waiting for them. They run till they puke, be reminded how fvcking terrible they are, how they can't make a god damn shot if their fvcking whore mother's life depended on it, and how god damn lucky they are to be given the grace of playing for the greatest basketball coach who has ever lived...despite being worthless pieces of sh1t. Yep, we got ole Huggins to make everything right. CFE says so.
 
Don't worry, ole Huggs will fix it. We've got 12 threadmills with no handles running full blast waiting for them. They run till they puke, be reminded how fvcking terrible they are, how they can't make a god damn shot if their fvcking whore mother's life depended on it, and how god damn lucky they are to be given the grace of playing for the greatest basketball coach who has ever lived...despite being worthless pieces of sh1t. Yep, we got ole Huggins to make everything right. CFE says so.

Well, not defending Huggs right now, but that style worked last year, the year before, and the year before.......if anything, Huggs is softer this year on the players than in the past.
 
Our players play paralyzed because our offense is so stagnant. The other team just overplays all of our entry passes because they know what the hell we are doing. And then when we cant find an opening for an entry pass we launch a three.

DUMB!!!
 
I'd wager the success of that style was more a product of the wills of JC and Dax than anything Huggins did. Having a generational defensive talent and another damn good guard defender makes pressuring the opponent a lot easier.

This team doesn't have that, and finally, they're beginning to relying less on intensive pressing. But Huggins still doesn't coach to his players' abilities. Instead of simply recruiting the most skilled players he can, he goes after "his" guys who can play in his system...a system that was originally built out of necessity due to another string of pathetic recruiting.

I legitimately wonder if Huggins would take an NBA-ready prospect if the player wasn't a fit in his...truthfully, not especially productive "system."
 
Did we defend tonight? No. Playbook for opposing teams the rest of the year is to press us, and then drive the ball past our guards when they turn it over. Not a stellar group at guard this year. McCabe and Haley are deserving of credit tonight, but really they only played a pretty average game for what we need from our guards in this league. Not a great picture unfolding this year. Bolden, Harler and Knapper had what 3 points between them and bunches of turnovers. Ahmad - looks like he is mailing it in. Maybe Konate chemistry has created an abcess within this team. Oh well. The last few years have been fun, but this one is more like a root canal.
 
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Huggs assistants are a joke. Larry Harrison is howdy doody and Erik Martin is dumb as a rock and plain lazy. They are using and playing Huggs so hard. Stealing money. Huggs is stealing money off WVU. Nobody wants to play for Huggs nowadays. Most overatted coach in sports. Belien set him up to inherit success. Huggs needs to retire.
 
Huggs needs to give some of that money back. This is pathetic. No excuse. Huggs is playing, pimping the state of WV and WVU brass. Time to get him to retire. He recruits dumb.
 
Wrong. The only reason we built a lead is because we were hitting the threes we were launching.

If we don't hit our threes we have NO offense.

HOF my ASS!

Motion offense is built on trust. Players run and sweat without the ball to create space and opportunities for teammates. They give up the ball expecting to get it back if they have an open shot.

Big men are expected to move away from the basket to set screens. Passes are generally preferred to dribbling.

Motion offense is built on knowledge. There are no set plays. Players must read defenses, anticipate where teammates will be and understand concepts.

(Our guards have no idea how to read a defense nor anticipate teammates)

Basketball is more and more becoming a game of isolation, a ball-handler trying to beat his man off the dribble. Increasingly a player who begins a possession with the ball finishes the possession with a shot. Less ball movement dampens the motivation for a player to move without the ball, as he is less likely to have the ball returned.

With a motion offense, a team is not dependent upon one player. You can dictate tempo with it. You can grind another team by making them defend multiple actions. The players also have much to gain from learning the motion offense

The NBA hasn’t helped breed a concept of team play. The pro game is all about one-and-done and isolation offenses.

John Beilein runs a motion offense. While it mimics the Princeton offense it varies in certain way. The 2-guard motion offense that Beilein runs is based off of a few things. First, the set starts in a 2-3, hence the name 2-guard motion. The basic motion set out of the 2-guard is based on v-cuts on the wings and a variety of back screens, flares and reading the defense. The key for the 2-guard motion is the ability to bring everyone away from the basket and having a versatile big guy who can step out and either be a threat to score or pass from the high post area.

Huggins has thrown in a mix where he’ll have a double screen for his ‘five’ guy to run off to the low post on. There is a combo of the Princeton offense + dribble drive with this open post motion. The goal is to leave the floor spaced so you can beat you’re guy off the dribble and there’s either late help from the weak side of people cheating so far over you have a clean look from three. At the same time Huggins has shown he’ll run the flex out of this set. He’ll mix up what he wants depending on his lineup and the open post motion just keeps defenses guessing.

We so far have nobody at guard that can do this. There are more teams in college that run it than you think.
 
Huggs needs to give some of that money back. This is pathetic. No excuse. Huggs is playing, pimping the state of WV and WVU brass. Time to get him to retire. He recruits dumb.

They should ship you on a boat to a foreign country. Make you watch soccer 24/7.
 
Huggs assistants are a joke. Larry Harrison is howdy doody and Erik Martin is dumb as a rock and plain lazy. They are using and playing Huggs so hard. Stealing money. Huggs is stealing money off WVU. Nobody wants to play for Huggs nowadays. Most overatted coach in sports. Belien set him up to inherit success. Huggs needs to retire.

You are a complete waist of time. Does your mom know your online right now?
 
Motion offense is built on trust. Players run and sweat without the ball to create space and opportunities for teammates. They give up the ball expecting to get it back if they have an open shot.

Big men are expected to move away from the basket to set screens. Passes are generally preferred to dribbling.

Motion offense is built on knowledge. There are no set plays. Players must read defenses, anticipate where teammates will be and understand concepts.

(Our guards have no idea how to read a defense nor anticipate teammates)

Basketball is more and more becoming a game of isolation, a ball-handler trying to beat his man off the dribble. Increasingly a player who begins a possession with the ball finishes the possession with a shot. Less ball movement dampens the motivation for a player to move without the ball, as he is less likely to have the ball returned.

With a motion offense, a team is not dependent upon one player. You can dictate tempo with it. You can grind another team by making them defend multiple actions. The players also have much to gain from learning the motion offense

The NBA hasn’t helped breed a concept of team play. The pro game is all about one-and-done and isolation offenses.

John Beilein runs a motion offense. While it mimics the Princeton offense it varies in certain way. The 2-guard motion offense that Beilein runs is based off of a few things. First, the set starts in a 2-3, hence the name 2-guard motion. The basic motion set out of the 2-guard is based on v-cuts on the wings and a variety of back screens, flares and reading the defense. The key for the 2-guard motion is the ability to bring everyone away from the basket and having a versatile big guy who can step out and either be a threat to score or pass from the high post area.

Huggins has thrown in a mix where he’ll have a double screen for his ‘five’ guy to run off to the low post on. There is a combo of the Princeton offense + dribble drive with this open post motion. The goal is to leave the floor spaced so you can beat you’re guy off the dribble and there’s either late help from the weak side of people cheating so far over you have a clean look from three. At the same time Huggins has shown he’ll run the flex out of this set. He’ll mix up what he wants depending on his lineup and the open post motion just keeps defenses guessing.

We so far have nobody at guard that can do this. There are more teams in college that run it than you think.
Yeah, you have to have a guard or even a small forward that is at least a threat to take the ball to the hole off that dribble drive and sometimes kick out to a player stepping into an open three. I wonder if Huggins will actually pull the redshirt from Doomes and if he can do some of this. I am curious, but not greatly optimistic. Maybe he will surprise.
 
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