We all know what's going to happen....
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I’m not sure either of those will happen, but I do think it’s possible he will win enough of the remaining games for the decision makers to justify keeping him another year.
Brown will not be the head coach in the 2025 season. They can't afford to keep him no matter what he does for this weak ass part of the schedule. 80% of the fan base is done with him. It's almost abuse to keep him after this. I have zero doubt in my mind that he and his wife want to get out of Morgantown asap. The honeymoon is over, the divorce is in motion.
I don’t think he will be here after this year. Sitting at 3-4 and looking ahead, I don’t see anything better than 6-6 at best. The movement of “Fire Neal Brown” will get stronger and more vocal. Once you lose the fans, it’s over. I’d say it will be a mutual parting of ways and a restructured buyout.
Other than your prediction of the final won/loss, I fully agree with this sentiment. I would put it at 80% that he will not be back for 2025. And I will also add, be prepared for a losing record for any coach they bring in for 2025. The unreasonable individuals will react improperly. Guaranteed.
We weren't even competitive with Penn State even with all that hype and home field advantage. We lost to pit, again. Iowa State handed us our asses at home. They are overrated. Kansas state, we weren't even competitive with home field advantage. Has Neil Brown ever won a homecoming game? I don't think he has and if he has it was only one. My point is I don't think it's going to matter what he does the rest of the season. The meaningful games are over and he blew it once again in every single one of them. I don't know anyone in person who will jump back on his bandwagon and everyone I know is DieHard WVU. He has lost the fan base and made an idiot of himself and it went nation wide. It's going to be more damaging to keep him for both sides, imo.
as a person paying more personal property tax in Morgantown, I'm glad the Mileground expansion is better than before. Neil is getting university money not to improve things. But I wish him well.
Yep. The hyped games are past. There is nothing different in results over the last 6 years. I'll watch the rest of the games and hope we can win the rest of them. But the first 7 have been the ones that were important to this season bring a success. What's left is not much to get amped up for. Except that it is our Mountaineers playing, and hopefully the outcomes will be good. For the season, it's lackluster the rest of the way.
The person I really feel sorry for is the person who has to put together the highlight film for this year.
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How many home games do you attend each year? When was the last time you bought tickets and went out to support WVU? I'm starting to see a common theme. The people who never go to games, who never show up in Morgantown and have nothing invested into WVU sports are the ones who are against firing Brown. The people who put their money where their mouth is are ready to move on. And that is why Neil Brown will be gone at the end of season if not sooner.
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Not that it is anyone's business but I promote charitable contributions for those that can afford it. Not everyone can and that is fine. My dick isn't so small I have to compare to others and won't. I also am not calling for any coach being fired and having to buy him out but if I did, I would pony up a contribution and wouldn't make others feel small by insults.
My contributions personally are to the MAC, Pride of WV, a couple different with Alzheimer's and a couple different for cancer. Those are important to me. Have a couple more as a couple with my wife.
Bless those that find a calling and if you can't afford financially, give in your time with volunteer opportunities and don't think you are better than others. You aren't but rather you are doing something for your own personal beliefs.
My contributions personally are to the MAC, Pride of WV, a couple different with Alzheimer's and a couple different for cancer. Those are important to me. Have a couple more as a couple with my wife.
Bless those that find a calling and if you can't afford financially, give in your time with volunteer opportunities and don't think you are better than others. You aren't but rather you are doing something for your own personal beliefs.
I'm not asking you about what charities you contribute to. My hats off to you for contributing to any of them, if what you're saying is true at all. I'm asking how many Mountaineer games do you come out and support the team for? How many tickets do you buy each year and how long has it been since you have watched a home game in morgantown? Because my guess is it's probably none, and its been a looooong time maybe since you were in school here. You will criticize the fans who actually do put their money towards the team and show up to games to cheer them on and support WVU football, and call them bad fans because they want the team to be better so they want a better coach, and you say that stuff as a fan who doesn't even show up at all. I know people who are season ticket holders. A whole bunch of them. They want Neil Brown gone I guess they're bad fans too right. You can point your finger but there are four pointing back at you. That's an old childish saying, but it certainly applies to you
Again, I don't believe anything said about how many games one goes to means a damn thing and I don't compare myself to others.
I live 600 miles away from Morgantown. From 1968-1986, I averaged being in person about 8 football games and 16 basketball games a year. Haven't seen a football game in Morgantown since 2006 and basketball in 2014. I do usually see at least one away or bowl football game a year since 1986. This year, I am seeing zero unless it is a bowl game.
This post means nothing to true Mountaineer fans. Everyone's story is different.
I live 600 miles away from Morgantown. From 1968-1986, I averaged being in person about 8 football games and 16 basketball games a year. Haven't seen a football game in Morgantown since 2006 and basketball in 2014. I do usually see at least one away or bowl football game a year since 1986. This year, I am seeing zero unless it is a bowl game.
This post means nothing to true Mountaineer fans. Everyone's story is different.
Well you have pretty much accused everybody who wants a better coach of not being a true fan so I would consider that comparing yourself to others. 2006 is a long time. My nephew is only 28 years old and he makes it up from Tampa every year for a game since he graduated. He is a true fan. He also wants a new coach
I do not see how it is possible for Brown to finish better than 6-6, mostly likely it will be 5-7. Baker can't keep Brown at 6-6 or 5-7, and Brown knows it (thus his recent testiness). Nevertheless, I always want to see the Mountaineers win. I will be pulling for them in every remaining game. Like most of us, I just want to win.
Being a true fan is about attitude and actions including what one says and how they say it. Has nothing to do with how much money he has, how many games one goes to as most true fans can't even afford it or how many times a person can directly attack others on a message board. Those actions only shows a maturity level.
Oh, it is huh. Says who? Can you provide a link or show me a book or something where it says those are the criteria to be a true fan? Or is that just your cranky stupid opinion?
I've been going to games since I was a kid, being in a household that always had season tickets. And I'll tell you what, some of the best true fans I have ever met are some of the loudest and most obnoxious actually. Some of those guys are diehards. Big Cat (rip) is a good example of that. I'm sure a lot of people were offended by what he hid under that apron, but you won't meet a more true fan. I know a lot of people who are absolute Die Hard fans, who buy tickets every season and they are very fed up with Neil Brown and are very vocal about wanting to get him out of there. They are true fans.
Most people want the Mountaineers to win every game. It pisses me off when we lose, but at this point, brown could win out from here and he still has to go because all of the meaningful games are already gone. The chance to prove that with this awesome roster full of talent, that the team had really improved from last year is already gone. Neil Brown has never elevated this team. He has only brought us down a notch from where we used to be. I hope we win every game but he still deserves to go.
In order to be a fan of the program doesn’t mean you have to adhere to any criteria of what is proper and what is not. If a fan is not pleased, they have the right to complain. Whether it’s a plane and banner, billboard, tshirt, message board, etc. We all should appreciate there is at least still enough passion that some fans actually care enough to protest the performance. It could be a lot worse if nobody cared. A passionate fanbase keeps the program striving for excellence. In the end, we are all fans. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be here posting.
good comments as usual. I don't fully agree. First, there are many fair weather fans that post and there are trolls. I typically don't respond to either of those type and I do consider them "fake". As it is your opinion stated above, this is mine. Some people get their panties in a wad when an opinion expressed hurts their little feelings. Get over it, it is an opinion and if you disagree, that is fine. Second, when one does something even if you have a right, there are consequences. You need to be mature enough to accept the consequences to your actions or you shouldn't do it. Don't whine. If one wants to wear an socially inappropriate tshirt or fly a banner, be prepared to get a negative response from others. Otherwise, do something a little more mature.
I could be wrong, but I really think Neal’s comments regarding “Did they enjoy it?” Showed this passionate fan base that Brown obviously doesn’t share the same passion, goals, or desire to compete at the highest levels. It came across that while he also would like to win, it’s really no big deal and we all should just enjoy the atmosphere and just have fun. That might work at Vanderbilt, but not here. And it really is a slap in the face and disrespectful to our fans and tradition at WVU. There’s no coming back from this for Brown. The fans are done.
Neal is 0-4 in homecoming games.
Edit: make that 0-5 after this season homecoming game (Covid season they did not have a homecoming game)
Just sit back and enjoy that WVU is going to find a better coach and get back to being a top 25 team. Better days are ahead
True fans prove themselves when the team is down and out for the count and at their lowest. They still show up for games and cheer the team on. Fake fans are the ones that bail on the program when it isn't performing up to their own personal standards. The overwhelming majority of WVU fans fall under that second category.
Anyone posting on this board wanting change is also a real fan. Otherwise, they wouldn’t waste their time complaining. They would stop going, watching, and stop caring. At that moment you are no longer a fan. I don’t know why people think a real fan is only someone chugging the kool aid and wearing blinders in absolute agreement with the direction of the program.
OK, an example. The team is 0-11 going into the 12th game of the season. Who is going to be at the game? True fans or fake fans?
Easy. Real fans. And a lot of them complaining. You’re still missing the point. The fan who says, “I’m done and no longer follows the team”. That’s not a fan. If you care and you still follow, you’re still a fan. I sat through a 3-9 Rodriguez 1st year at WVU. And I was still a fan afterwards.
True coaches improve their team during 6 year stints.
I cheer for WVU but I don't think Neal is a good culture fit for WVU.
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