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Trump supporter, but damn....Donald totally f^%#ed up....

I didn’t say I didn’t give a rats ass, you did. You asked a question of me. I clarified. Then you said “well I don’t care!” jfc what is going on anymore?
Update, ....... still don’t give a rats*##.
 
The problem is Trump being Trump. When he stays on script he does fine, but it's when he tries to go off script, speak off of the cuff, that he gets himself into trouble like this.
I could agree that this might be the extent of what’s happening. I think he need to learn though, aaandd his supporters should pressure him to AT THE VERY LEAST learn to represent the office in a more prepared and dignified way. Anytime Obama or Clinton said something off cuff they shouldn’t have......it’s still a talking point for the right years later.

I will say this though.....this could be something much more dangerous than aa loudmouth child unable to prep well also
 
He chose Putin over his own Government, can't spin that. It's Americans vs. Russians not Democrats vs. Republicans. At least Trump makes it easy to see who is not on Americas side on here.
 
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Back to my analogy. Whose side would your wife assume you were taking?

Your analogy was terrible. Here, I will correct it, then respond.

Your wife presents you with evidence that your nemesis walked past her on the street, glanced at her, and gave her a dirty look. You stand up before the world and say “I know my wife said he looked at her funky, but he denies it very strongly. And I have to say, I don’t see any reason for him to look at her funky.”

Our IC said that Russia's feeble efforts did not manipulate any votes. Their 5 figure ad buys were a drop in the bucket. Their phishing successes didn't take tons of resources, it just took idiots in DC to fall for it. The media never publicized the contents of the releases, only that somebody broke the law.

My nemesis certainly didn't punch my wife in the mouth.
 
He chose Putin over his own Government, can't spin that. It's Americans vs. Russians not Democrats vs. Republicans. At least Trump makes it easy to see who is not on Americas side on here.

That's a lie. He did not chose Putin over his own government.
 
I don't know narratives, don't watch FNC, nor anyone else for that matter. I hazard a guess that Trump thinks Putin has treated Trump, and the US, more fairly than the intel community has treated Trump. That would be fact.

They should've told Trump that they were investigating Flynn, Manafort, et. al. Mueller shouldn't have commandeered the campaigns email without a warrant. The FBI shouldn't have leaked to the AP info about the combination to Manafort's storage in order to give it back to them. I could go on and on. They sound more like KGB than US intel.
The intel community is not being unfair to Trump when they uncover uncomfortable facts he wishes stayed hidden, and Putin is a murderous KGB agent who treats no one fairly, you Trumpicans would loved it over there, daddy Putin would only whisper what you wanna hear and keep the brown folks away, but you are stuck with Donnie, appears you are eager to follow him down the drain, America isn't and won't.
 
The intel community is not being unfair to Trump when they uncover uncomfortable facts he wishes stayed hidden, and Putin is a murderous KGB agent who treats no one fairly, you Trumpicans would loved it over there, daddy Putin would only whisper what you wanna hear and keep the brown folks away, but you are stuck with Donnie, appears you are eager to follow him down the drain, America isn't and won't.

Indictments release timing was certainly meant to impede the summit. That is a prosecutor punishing someone that has not been found guilty at present.
 
Your analogy was terrible. Here, I will correct it, then respond.



Our IC said that Russia's feeble efforts did not manipulate any votes. Their 5 figure ad buys were a drop in the bucket. Their phishing successes didn't take tons of resources, it just took idiots in DC to fall for it. The media never publicized the contents of the releases, only that somebody broke the law.

My nemesis certainly didn't punch my wife in the mouth.
They didn’t say that their “feeble efforts did not manipulate my votes” Rosenstein said that the indictments didn’t indicate that was done. There’s a massive difference
 
Your analogy was terrible. Here, I will correct it, then respond.



Our IC said that Russia's feeble efforts did not manipulate any votes. Their 5 figure ad buys were a drop in the bucket. Their phishing successes didn't take tons of resources, it just took idiots in DC to fall for it. The media never publicized the contents of the releases, only that somebody broke the law.

My nemesis certainly didn't punch my wife in the mouth.

Your wife would still be mad. You sided with your nemesis.
 
Indictments release timing was certainly meant to impede the summit. That is a prosecutor punishing someone that has not been found guilty at present.
Or is that giving Trump ammunition to push back on Putin for meddling? It's all about how you use the information you have to your advantage. Trump has spun less than that into an advantage while campaigning. Why not do the same with Putin?
 
Or is that giving Trump ammunition to push back on Putin for meddling? It's all about how you use the information you have to your advantage. Trump has spun less than that into an advantage while campaigning. Why not do the same with Putin?

If that were true, it wouldn't have been Friday at noon. It would've been at least released Thursday.
 
If that were true, it wouldn't have been Friday at noon. It would've been at least released Thursday.
The Trump admin was made aware of it a week before. Perhaps they didn't want to step on the NATO talks.
 
If only trump was personally briefed on it earlier. Say like a week.

When Trump knew doesn't change the timing of the release. It's certainly funny that House Intel Committee dropped the same information in April, and not a peep.
 
Why argue with these un-American pricks, we all know what they would have said if Obama had been this incompetent and compromised and made America look like Putins weak lapdog. I hope we quit sharing intelligence with him because he can't be trusted.
 
The overreaction on the left is astonishing but I still didn’t like the Presidents language yesterday…..I had another cringe moment with Trump. This summit didn’t really have a purpose right now because Trump can't admit Russia did have some involvement whether that is ego or some kind of Psychology thing here, because in his mind that would undercut his otherwise legitiment election. He is wrong on his actions during this summit and should have avoided such a meeting. He threw Americans under the bus while harmonizing with Putin. Just my opinion
 
The overreaction on the left is astonishing but I still didn’t like the Presidents language yesterday…..I had another cringe moment with Trump. This summit didn’t really have a purpose right now because Trump can't admit Russia did have some involvement whether that is ego or some kind of Psychology thing here, because in his mind that would undercut his otherwise legitiment election. He is wrong on his actions during this summit and should have avoided such a meeting. He threw Americans under the bus while harmonizing with Putin. Just my opinion
It’s not just the left that’s pissed. But at least you’re not licking Trump nuts like others on this board
 
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You are the one lying.....I never said I would never post to you.......you made the comment to never post to another person, and I simply begged for that opportunity.......[laughing].....and it was right after I owned you for lying about not telling an economics professional that he was wrong.......

......and you don't need to reply back, because there's no need to.....I already know you will never say Trump was WRONG in what he did and instead will post something about Hillary, socialism, or African-American unemployment........:americanflag:
Still deflecting and refusing to answer the question ! Same old same old...
 
Michael Goodwin with the scoop, the skinny, and the final word on this Trump F'up and the Left's TDS inspired overreaction to it.

Mike drop:
Excerpt:
The president’s disappointing performance instantly energized the hate-Trumpers, giving them ammunition to allege that Putin actually does have compromising information on Trump. Otherwise, they insist, why won’t Trump confront Putin over the meddling?

Though most Trump haters are not logical or reasonable, in this case, their allegation deserves an answer.

Link
https://nypost.com/2018/07/16/trump-bordered-on-being-deferential-in-putin-meeting/
 
30CAT can you link me to what you know of exactly what the Russians did to interfere in our elections? I'm not talking about what their "intentions" were, or what they "planned" or even what they "tried". I'm asking for what they actually "did" or any real trouble they actually caused that effected our votes. Can you?

For example it's been reported they "attempted to interfere with our votes". OK...so what exactly did they do? I understand you're upset, but let's drill down and try to see if we can find out why? What did you want Trump to do?

I'm just going by the word of our own. Every agency says Russia meddled. I wanted Trump to stay tough. He should have called Putin out. Instead, it's as if he tucked tail. Advantage Putin.
 
The overreaction on the left is astonishing but I still didn’t like the Presidents language yesterday…..I had another cringe moment with Trump. This summit didn’t really have a purpose right now because Trump can't admit Russia did have some involvement whether that is ego or some kind of Psychology thing here, because in his mind that would undercut his otherwise legitiment election. He is wrong on his actions during this summit and should have avoided such a meeting. He threw Americans under the bus while harmonizing with Putin. Just my opinion
The question asked by the reporter at that moment was perfect For the left. Any answer from Trump was going to advance the lefts point, Trump either supports the witchhunt continuing in Washington or he sets up Russia as being as honest as our Deepstate... I think we know where we go from here.
 
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The question asked by the reporter at that moment was perfect For the left. Any answer from Trump was going to advance the lefts point, Trump either supports the witchhunt continuing in Washington or he sets up Russia as being as honest as our Deepstate... I think we know where we go from here.
Ball licking
 
[QUOTE="jpoppa, post: 2026191, member: 2900"
]The overreaction on the left is astonishing but I still didn’t like the Presidents language yesterday…..I had another cringe moment with Trump. This summit didn’t really have a purpose right now because Trump can't admit Russia did have some involvement whether that is ego or some kind of Psychology thing here, because in his mind that would undercut his otherwise legitiment election. He is wrong on his actions during this summit and should have avoided such a meeting. He threw Americans under the bus while harmonizing with Putin. Just my opinion[/QUOTE]
From Michael Goodwin:

Then, here’s what he could have said:

“I trust my intelligence leaders, and they are confident Russia meddled in the election. I accept their conclusion, and I told President Putin he must never do it again. If he does, the sanctions we imposed so far will look like child’s play compared to what we would do next.”

Period, stop.

Then Trump could add this: “At the same time, I won the election fair and square. Sixty-three million voters responded to our promise to secure our borders, improve trade deals, rebuild our military and treat our workers with the respect and allegiance we owe them.

“There was no collusion on my part, nor do I know of any collusion by anyone on my team. And do not forget that there are no allegations and certainly no evidence that a single vote was changed because of anything Russia did.

“The Electoral College results were not remotely close, so I did not need help from outsiders to win. And neither Russians nor anyone else prevented Hillary Clinton from visiting Wisconsin. Nor did anyone force her to call fellow Americans ‘deplorables’ or promise to double down on Barack Obama’s failed economic and immigration policies.

“We won the election the old-fashioned way. By outworking our opponent and by promising to put America First. We are keeping that promise every day and will continue to for as long as I am privileged and honored to be your president.”
Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Maybe next time.

Link:

https://nypost.com/2018/07/16/trump-bordered-on-being-deferential-in-putin-meeting/
 
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I disagree....I freaking disagree!!

He just took Putin's word over our intelligence ageny's! Ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous!

Hell...Even if I thought our agents were wrong, I'd be pissed. Can't believe he chose Putin's word over our intelligence. Sorry...There is no excuse.

Hating Trump and everything he does is one thing.....but to take Putin's side over our own intelligence agency's is another. Come on...
I disagree....I freaking disagree!!

He just took Putin's word over our intelligence ageny's! Ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous!

Hell...Even if I thought our agents were wrong, I'd be pissed. Can't believe he chose Putin's word over our intelligence. Sorry...There is no excuse.

Hating Trump and everything he does is one thing.....but to take Putin's side over our own intelligence agency's is another. Come on...
I disagree....I freaking disagree!!

He just took Putin's word over our intelligence ageny's! Ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous!

Hell...Even if I thought our agents were wrong, I'd be pissed. Can't believe he chose Putin's word over our intelligence. Sorry...There is no excuse.

Hating Trump and everything he does is one thing.....but to take Putin's side over our own intelligence agency's is another. Come on...
I disagree....I freaking disagree!!

He just took Putin's word over our intelligence ageny's! Ridiculous! Absolutely ridiculous!

Hell...Even if I thought our agents were wrong, I'd be pissed. Can't believe he chose Putin's word over our intelligence. Sorry...There is no excuse.

Hating Trump and everything he does is one thing.....but to take Putin's side over our own intelligence agency's is another. Come on...
30CAT can you link me to what you know of exactly what the Russians did to interfere in our elections? I'm not talking about what their "intentions" were, or what they "planned" or even what they "tried". I'm asking for what they actually "did" or any real trouble they actually caused that effected our votes. Can you?

For example it's been reported they "attempted to interfere with our votes". OK...so what exactly did they do? I understand you're upset, but let's drill down and try to see if we can find out why? What did you want Trump to do?
Haters are going to hate. Man is attempting to build a relationship with an adversary and the haters expect him to call Putin a liar. Hell he could have done that with a phone call. And we do have to look at history and admit our Intel and law agencies have the capacity to stretch the truth on special occasions of light or darkness. Alternatively stated all in DC are part of the Swamp.

Looks like saying is still applicable, "friend in DC, get a dog", All others must be looked at as potential enemy. To create a relationship with Putin, it is expected that you blow smoke in his ass. Realize that is a fair exchange from him.
 
The question asked by the reporter at that moment was perfect For the left. Any answer from Trump was going to advance the lefts point, Trump either supports the witchhunt continuing in Washington or he sets up Russia as being as honest as our Deepstate... I think we know where we go from here.

“Do you believe that Russia meddled?”

Truly another gotcha question from the liberal mainstream media. Tricksters!
 
I'm just going by the word of our own. Every agency says Russia meddled. I wanted Trump to stay tough. He should have called Putin out. Instead, it's as if he tucked tail. Advantage Putin.

I agree he didn't answer as he should. But the whole idea he took Putin's word over our people is BS. In fact, Trump doesn't even totally believe our investigation into what the Russians allegedly were up to.
 
“Do you believe that Russia meddled?”

Truly another gotcha question from the liberal mainstream media. Tricksters!
Sure I believe Russia meddled, also China, Israel and who the hell else knows who meddled. We meddle in their affairs too. Hard fact is that their meddling didn't change any outcomes in the election except for all the investigations occuring which is slowing our legislative bodys ability to legislate,which in and of its self may not be such a bad thing...
 
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Sure I believe Russia meddled, also China, Israel and who the hell else knows who meddled. We meddle in their affairs too. Hard fact is that their meddling didn't change any outcomes in the election except for all the investigations occuring which is slowing our legislative bodys ability to legislate,which in and of its self may not be such a bad thing...

I didn’t ask you. I’m pointing out that was a simple question. You said it was a trick question. It is not.
 
Sure I believe Russia meddled, also China, Israel and who the hell else knows who meddled. We meddle in their affairs too. Hard fact is that their meddling didn't change any outcomes in the election except for all the investigations occuring which is slowing our legislative bodys ability to legislate,which in and of its self may not be such a bad thing...
Fvcking retarded answer
 
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It's like they just can't let the traitor go, won't matter, this the same country that elected Barrack, twice, after the W Iraq war debacle, so we are good after this clown, that base and Demographic ain't being grown by the Trumpicans, why do they hate America?
 
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