The sicker we got, the richer food and drug industries got

[WVUALLEN]

When JFK was President, our family only got fast food when we were traveling. Moms cooked fresh meals. We rode bikes, roller skated, skateboarded, walked all over the place...no hanging out in the house in front of the TV or any other device that makes our life better...Go figure.

 

[MountaineerWV]

And we didn't have the Internet, blogs, podcasts, and 24/7 news channels telling us what to think or say. Go figure....

 

[roadtrasheer]

And we didn't have the Internet, blogs, podcasts, and 24/7 news channels telling us what to think or say. Go figure....

The internet is a tool, a weapon a disease and great entertainment.
We choose to abuse it .

 

[SoCo]

And we didn't have the Internet, blogs, podcasts, and 24/7 news channels telling us what to think or say. Go figure....

Exactly. It was worse back then when it was just the legacy media telling us what to think or say. The legacy media was the doing the government's bidding without any opposition to check it.

For example, they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident which resulted in 58,000 American deaths and more than 100,000 boys who were never the same again when they returned home.

 

[roadtrasheer]

Exactly. It was worse back then when it was just the legacy media telling us what to think or say. The legacy media was the doing the government's bidding without any opposition to check it.

For example, they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident which resulted in 58,000 American deaths and more than 100,000 boys who were never the same again when they returned home.

100%
Without the modern ways of getting information we would still believe the DNC lies about Russian collusion and that corona come from a wet market. That's just the tip of lies from legacy media.

 

[dave]

And we didn't have the Internet, blogs, podcasts, and 24/7 news channels telling us what to think or say. Go figure....

We didn't have any of that in the 80s and most of the 90s but we had fast food and drugs galore

 

[dave]

Exactly. It was worse back then when it was just the legacy media telling us what to think or say. The legacy media was the doing the government's bidding without any opposition to check it.

For example, they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident which resulted in 58,000 American deaths and more than 100,000 boys who were never the same again when they returned home.

It is crazy that our government openly admits the Tonkin event was completely fabricated but nobody wants to hang whoever dreamed up that lie that led to the deaths of 100s of thousands.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Exactly. It was worse back then when it was just the legacy media telling us what to think or say. The legacy media was the doing the government's bidding without any opposition to check it.

For example, they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident which resulted in 58,000 American deaths and more than 100,000 boys who were never the same again when they returned home.

Yeah, because social media today is only producing honest opinions and news and not spreading propaganda at all.

 

[MountaineerWV]

100%
Without the modern ways of getting information we would still believe the DNC lies about Russian collusion and that corona come from a wet market. That's just the tip of lies from legacy media.

 

[MountaineerWV]

It is crazy that our government openly admits the Tonkin event was completely fabricated but nobody wants to hang whoever dreamed up that lie that led to the deaths of 100s of thousands.

Buddy, our government has been doing this since the beginning. How did we get in to a war with Mexico in 1846? Because we wanted California, and Congress wouldn't approve a declaration without an "incident". So, we staged one.

And I'm not justifying the Gulf of Tonkin incident at all. Just stating that there was an anti-communist agenda that our government had pledged to support, and that was a method of getting funding to support it in Southeast Asia.

 

[WVUALLEN]

The internet is a tool, a weapon a disease and great entertainment.
We choose to abuse it .

No doubt

 

[WVUALLEN]

We didn't have any of that in the 80s and most of the 90s but we had fast food and drugs galore

Good times.

 

[Gunny46]

Buddy, our government has been doing this since the beginning. How did we get in to a war with Mexico in 1846? Because we wanted California, and Congress wouldn't approve a declaration without an "incident". So, we staged one.

And I'm not justifying the Gulf of Tonkin incident at all. Just stating that there was an anti-communist agenda that our government had pledged to support, and that was a method of getting funding to support it in Southeast Asia.

FFS we should have killed all the Communist in Vietnam and Korea. All while overthrowing the CCP Government. Then arrested all the sympathizers here and send them to re-education camps. The world would be a much better place today without the existence of that destructive ideology.

 

[MountaineerWV]

FFS we should have killed all the Communist in Vietnam and Korea. All while overthrowing the CCP Government. Then arrested all the sympathizers here and send them to re-education camps. The world would be a much better place today without the existence of that destructive ideology.

"FFS" don't tell me that. Tell Dave. He's the one that said the government lied and got 100,000's deaths because of it.

 

[SoCo]

Yeah, because social media today is only producing honest opinions and news and not spreading propaganda at all.

Social media does both. It produces honest opinions and spreads propaganda. Just like the legacy media.

Social media provides a marketplace of ideas that can push back at the legacy media's propaganda, which previously went unchecked to the detriment of the United States.

 

[Gunny46]

"FFS" don't tell me that. Tell Dave. He's the one that said the government lied and got 100,000's deaths because of it.

I was telling anyone who may of thought killing Nazis ended tyranny. The Communist are just as bad. The useful idiots never get they only helped transfer wealth and power to their leaders that are no better than the corrupt Turds they helped overthrow.

The biggest problem with Vietnam was we didn't fight to win because of politics. We didn't need one incident to justify getting involved. We needed a better plan that produced better results and ignored the Communist Sympathizers.

For those that served in Vietnam. Great job killing Communist. Nothing but respect for their service.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Social media does both. It produces honest opinions and spreads propaganda. Just like the legacy media.

Social media provides a marketplace of ideas that can push back at the legacy media's propaganda, which previously went unchecked to the detriment of the United States.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I’m really not sure what you find funny in what he said. Seems like he pretty much nailed it.

 

[MountaineerWV]

I’m really not sure what you find funny in what he said. Seems like he pretty much nailed it.

The Media is the "DEVIL".

You guys really have bought all in. Keep reading the 100%, God's honest truth on social media. Fine by me. I'll stay away from both.

 

[roadtrasheer]

The Media is the "DEVIL".

You guys really have bought all in. Keep reading the 100%, God's honest truth on social media. Fine by me. I'll stay away from both.

Tell us how you stay away from both and be informed?
Both have flaws ....difference being before social media we only had one source and it was legacy media. Now we have multiple to choose from and the legacy media can't just edit stuff . We can listen to anyone person's whole speech and not just what we are told to hear .
Just imagine if not for social media people would still believe the rona come from a wet market.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Tell us how you stay away from both and be informed?
Both have flaws ....difference being before social media we only had one source and it was legacy media. Now we have multiple to choose from and the legacy media can't just edit stuff . We can listen to anyone person's whole speech and not just what we are told to hear .
Just imagine if not for social media people would still believe the rona come from a wet market.

1. I don't use or read social media posts about political opinion (unless it is in an article, and I find it amusing/funny). They are all clickbait. You should realize that.
2. I don't watch MSNBC, FoxNews, CNN, etc.
3. I read articles, make my own decision.....so I guess I don't stay "100%" away from it.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

The Media is the "DEVIL".

You guys really have bought all in. Keep reading the 100%, God's honest truth on social media. Fine by me. I'll stay away from both.

What are you talking about?

Legacy Media isn’t the devil, but they do their fair share of propaganda for the USG. I’ll even give them the benefit of stating they don’t know that they’re being used. Think about major stuff that has occurred that would’ve gone unchecked.

1. Iraq WMDs
2. Obama Drone Bombing US Citizens without Due Process
3. Russia Gate
4. COVID Origins
5. Vaccine efficacy
6. Vaccine side effects
7. Vaccine censorship
8. Biden Laptop
9. Biden Burisma
10. Biden financial corruption
11. Who the fvck was running the country the last 4 years?
12. Biden’s complete and utter mental decline
13. Kamala’s polling numbers
14. Kamala’s qualifications and capability
15. Syrian troop numbers
16. Capitol “Insurrection”

I could go on and on on things the Legacy media outright lied about or was misled into reporting as vigorous fact that was exposed in social media as lies.

Is there a lot of crazy shit on social media? Absolutely. Does social media provide a means and mechanism to watch and read the straight source material? Read the emails? Watch and understand the context? Yes. On balance, social media is far more effective in getting the truth out to the masses than legacy media.

If you’re saying you’re in disagreement with that position, we really don’t have anything left to discuss.

 

[roadtrasheer]

1. I don't use or read social media posts about political opinion (unless it is in an article, and I find it amusing/funny). They are all clickbait. You should realize that.
2. I don't watch MSNBC, FoxNews, CNN, etc.
3. I read articles, make my own decision.....so I guess I don't stay "100%" away from it.

I read articles, normally hear about something then want a deeper understanding . I watch some of each and listen to political opinions then try to understand where they come from .
You do you . I even read the news moe puts out to try and understand what they see .... then laugh and shake my head

 

[SoCo]

1. I don't use or read social media posts about political opinion (unless it is in an article, and I find it amusing/funny). They are all clickbait. You should realize that.
2. I don't watch MSNBC, FoxNews, CNN, etc.
3. I read articles, make my own decision.....so I guess I don't stay "100%" away from it.

Lol

 

[polar80]

I was telling anyone who may of thought killing Nazis ended tyranny. The Communist are just as bad. The useful idiots never get they only helped transfer wealth and power to their leaders that are no better than the corrupt Turds they helped overthrow.

The biggest problem with Vietnam was we didn't fight to win because of politics. We didn't need one incident to justify getting involved. We needed a better plan that produced better results and ignored the Communist Sympathizers.

For those that served in Vietnam. Great job killing Communist. Nothing but respect for their service.

Communists killed far more than the Nazis, not that either one is evenly remotely acceptable. Both are/were equally outright evil. I visited Buechenwald, 20 years ago and it gives me creeps today, almost as much as it did then. Cannot imagine, what the Communist death camps were/are like..

 

[roadtrasheer]

Communists killed far more than the Nazis, not that either one is evenly remotely acceptable. Both are/were equally outright evil. I visited Buechenwald, 20 years ago and it gives me creeps today, almost as much as it did then. Cannot imagine, what the Communist death camps were/are like..

What's the difference between a socialists and communist?
I was told nothing..... we have a house of Representatives full of socialists or half full

 

[dave]

Yeah, because social media today is only producing honest opinions and news and not spreading propaganda at all.

Someone missing the point....again.

 

[dave]

I read articles, normally hear about something then want a deeper understanding . I watch some of each and listen to political opinions then try to understand where they come from .
You do you . I even read the news moe puts out to try and understand what they see .... then laugh and shake my head

Right. Because articles are less propaganda than other media. You just refuse to listen to all the information before making up your mind and tell yourself it is OK.

 

[roadtrasheer]

Right. Because articles are less propaganda than other media. You just refuse to listen to all the information before making up your mind and tell yourself it is OK.

Do what ? Most everything is written or spoken with some biases. Written articles is old school blogs and podcasts. What i was saying is, I get info from all means I enjoy reading because it slows information down for me so I can understand it better and pick out the facts from opinion. Listening, watching or reading the same information don't change the content .