Thanks Fast Eddie!!!!

[dangerousdaneerfan]

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Results of asbestos testing from the WVU Coliseum are expected Saturday.

Contractors working on a $15 million dollar renovation made a suspicious discovery “encapsulated in an inaccessible area above ceilings in entrances to the restrooms ringing the concourse, and did not pose a health hazard to any individuals within the building,” according to WVU Director of Environment Health and Safety, John Principe.

The coliseum was closed to the public in mid March for the summer.

However, some of the WVU Athletics Department staff members were able to continue work in office space.

An undisclosed number of athletic department staff members and construction workers were immediately excused from the 46-year-old building as a precaution.

In 1999, a year-long asbestos abatement process in exposed areas of the coliseum including the arena closed the coliseum.

WVU commencement activities are scheduled for May 14 and 15. Following testing results and assessments, university officials will determine if those ceremonies will have to be relocated.

 

[dave]

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Results of asbestos testing from the WVU Coliseum are expected Saturday.

Contractors working on a $15 million dollar renovation made a suspicious discovery “encapsulated in an inaccessible area above ceilings in entrances to the restrooms ringing the concourse, and did not pose a health hazard to any individuals within the building,” according to WVU Director of Environment Health and Safety, John Principe.

The coliseum was closed to the public in mid March for the summer.

However, some of the WVU Athletics Department staff members were able to continue work in office space.

An undisclosed number of athletic department staff members and construction workers were immediately excused from the 46-year-old building as a precaution.

In 1999, a year-long asbestos abatement process in exposed areas of the coliseum including the arena closed the coliseum.

WVU commencement activities are scheduled for May 14 and 15. Following testing results and assessments, university officials will determine if those ceremonies will have to be relocated.

Please explain how this is Eddies problem?

 

[MountaineerGuy]

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Results of asbestos testing from the WVU Coliseum are expected Saturday.

Contractors working on a $15 million dollar renovation made a suspicious discovery “encapsulated in an inaccessible area above ceilings in entrances to the restrooms ringing the concourse, and did not pose a health hazard to any individuals within the building,” according to WVU Director of Environment Health and Safety, John Principe.

The coliseum was closed to the public in mid March for the summer.

However, some of the WVU Athletics Department staff members were able to continue work in office space.

An undisclosed number of athletic department staff members and construction workers were immediately excused from the 46-year-old building as a precaution.

In 1999, a year-long asbestos abatement process in exposed areas of the coliseum including the arena closed the coliseum.

WVU commencement activities are scheduled for May 14 and 15. Following testing results and assessments, university officials will determine if those ceremonies will have to be relocated.

in all fairness, Fast Ed had his issues, as everyone does, but this isn't one of his. This was done when the Coliseum was built way back in 1970.

 

[The Hunteeeeeer]

The coliseum was closed for an entire basketball season while the the university removed asbestos from the facility. I believe this was under Pastilongs watch.
Perhaps the job wasn't finished.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

If aesbes isn't disturbed, it's pretty much harmless. It was used in concrete as an admixture for years.

A friend of mine & retired coworker told me the HOA at his beach house destroyed a good flood wall earlier this year and built a new one because it was discovered asbestos was used in mix in the 1960s. It survived 50 years of weathering and looked as good as new according to him. Yet they tore it out and put in one that probably won't be as good because low permeability is much harder to accomplish without fly ash as an admixture.

 

[Orlaco]

Asbestos is kind of like lead paint... ...not a big deal unless it's being ate by kids It's really not a health risk most times. That's to say, as previously mentioned, asbestos isn't s threat unless it's in the air (disturbed...like an insulation or dust).

WVU paid to have it removed and I would believe it's on the contractor and/or the inspector If it wasn't done correctly (or in full).

 

[coalcountry52]

Please explain how this is Eddies problem?

I'd say it was because he was AD at the time, however, I'd blame several people and not just one.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

As I understand it, the asbestos was more of a problem than in other places because, when the crowd rocked the place, it stirred up the asbestos. This is an example in America of a product that everyone thought was the greatest thing since sliced bread becoming a Pandora's box of problems. Not just at WVU.

 

[Papillion]

I'd say it was because he was AD at the time, however, I'd blame several people and not just one.

Typical ignorant post by someone looking to lay blame on someone else. What difference who's watch it was when EP had nothing to do with how the Coliseum was built? Do you even know why that abatement had to be done as opposed to just leaving it alone? From what I was told it might not have had to be done but someone pissed the EPA off and hence, the removal and shutdown of the building. Some of you really need to think before you post/talk.
EP was AD at WVU for a good number of years and did a lot of good, helped get us into the Big East, upgraded facilities, helped usher in the women's soccer program, which was made to be good from the beginning, which he told me. And guess what, it's a top ten program now.
What official doesn't make mistakes? The Coliseum wasn't one of Ed's.

 

[coalcountry52]

Typical ignorant post by someone looking to lay blame on someone else. What difference who's watch it was when EP had nothing to do with how the Coliseum was built? Do you even know why that abatement had to be done as opposed to just leaving it alone? From what I was told it might not have had to be done but someone pissed the EPA off and hence, the removal and shutdown of the building. Some of you really need to think before you post/talk.
EP was AD at WVU for a good number of years and did a lot of good, helped get us into the Big East, upgraded facilities, helped usher in the women's soccer program, which was made to be good from the beginning, which he told me. And guess what, it's a top ten program now.
What official doesn't make mistakes? The Coliseum wasn't one of Ed's.

Are you referring to me or the OP? I think there's a disconnect between my point and your thesis.

Regardless, several stakeholders failed here and as most things in WV, no one pays for it but the little guy.

 

[dangerousdaneerfan]

Are you referring to me or the OP? I think there's a disconnect between my point and your thesis.

Regardless, several stakeholders failed here and as most things in WV, no one pays for it but the little guy.

Very true, as the state is just about broke. Pap, however, sounds like a broken record defending Fast Eddie. Fast Eddie, like Coach Leather Jacket, stayed too long. Pap talks about Fast Eddie getting us into the Big East, but he waved bye bye standing on the bridge of the SS Big East when Miami, VPLies, and BC jumped ship. He sat like a hostage when Uncle Joe held a gun to his head and forced WVU to play Moo Tech in football. Fast Eddie's two biggest fvckups were the 3am hiring of Bill Stewart and Huggy/Jockitch/Beilein clusterfvck.

 

[Papillion]

Sorry Country, was referring to the OP but quoted you with him in mind. And you can tell what I mean by his second ignorant post below. Name calling ("fast eddie") and such sounds awfully ungrateful considering Ed kept the athletic dept. in the black almost every year under his watch. The Coliseum deal was not his fault.

 

[Papillion]

Very true, as the state is just about broke. Pap, however, sounds like a broken record defending Fast Eddie. Fast Eddie, like Coach Leather Jacket, stayed too long. Pap talks about Fast Eddie getting us into the Big East, but he waved bye bye standing on the bridge of the SS Big East when Miami, VPLies, and BC jumped ship. He sat like a hostage when Uncle Joe held a gun to his head and forced WVU to play Moo Tech in football. Fast Eddie's two biggest fvckups were the 3am hiring of Bill Stewart and Huggy/Jockitch/Beilein clusterfvck.

I don't know how old you are but you come off like the typical clueless fan who spouts off with no facts. Beilein was under contract and also in a tourney and didn't want to talk when Ed came calling so he settled for Dakitch. By the time DD was gone Beilein's season was done and it fell into place. He couldn't get him when he wanted. And he didn't screw up Huggins first time around either.
As far as Stew goes, what he did with that team leading up to his hire show tremendous leadership and on top of winning that game the way they did, was his audition. Who knew he would change the offense when he said he wasn't going to.
Besides, his record was not a failure and he won a few bowls. It's too bad he tapped into some of your insecurities where you still have to bash him like some others where he can't defend himself.
EP did a terrific job running WVU's AD and kept it in the black, along with other things. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[FrederickFan]

I'd say it was because he was AD at the time, however, I'd blame several people and not just one.

The Athletic Department and E. Pastilong had nothing to do with this project, just like the Chemistry Department would have nothing to do with the removal of asbestos from their building. These projects are bid out by the University (not the Athletic Department) and managed by other departments (most likely Facilities and Campus Safety). The low bid contractor gets the work, unless there is reason to disqualify them.

The asbestos was in the form of a sprayed on insulation on the ceiling. The binder in the material was breaking down and the insulation was coming off the ceiling. Hence, the need to remove the insulation. The asbestos of interest now is from different locations which were not part of the ceiling contract/project. No relation to the 1999 project.

 

[LowFatMilk]

I don't know how old you are but you come off like the typical clueless fan who spouts off with no facts. Beilein was under contract and also in a tourney and didn't want to talk when Ed came calling so he settled for Dakitch. By the time DD was gone Beilein's season was done and it fell into place. He couldn't get him when he wanted. And he didn't screw up Huggins first time around either.
As far as Stew goes, what he did with that team leading up to his hire show tremendous leadership and on top of winning that game the way they did, was his audition. Who knew he would change the offense when he said he wasn't going to.
Besides, his record was not a failure and he won a few bowls. It's too bad he tapped into some of your insecurities where you still have to bash him like some others where he can't defend himself.
EP did a terrific job running WVU's AD and kept it in the black, along with other things. You don't know what you're talking about.

Good reply... ...but Ed did screw up in the hiring process of both Stew and JB.

He just did and obviously posting why isn't going to change your opinion.

 

[coalcountry52]

Sorry Country, was referring to the OP but quoted you with him in mind. And you can tell what I mean by his second ignorant post below. Name calling ("fast eddie") and such sounds awfully ungrateful considering Ed kept the athletic dept. in the black almost every year under his watch. The Coliseum deal was not his fault.

No problem on that. I just didn't want to assume anything.

As for Eddie, he did a lot wrong, or maybe not so much wrong, but inaction was more his thing. He also did some things right. He held out and didn't fold to every demand by DickRod, which could have put us on probation for a good period of time. He hired Huggs even if we missed the boat the first time around. He was around for a lot of successful teams in multiple programs. Yes, he hired Stewart when we needed a vetted candidate. Yes, he kept our non-revenue sports in the toilet prestige-wise and our successes there were more a benefit of taking advantage of what we had. He was frugal out of necessity and whatever arms race we could compete in was solely going to be football or basketball. He was not a bad AD and it was simply a matter of he and a few of his hires being well beyond their times.

The Coliseum, if Eddie had any blame, was a failure by the engineering firm that inspected the asbestos abatement, the physical removal firm, the University officials, and state inspectors well before Eddie saddled any of the responsibility. The critique of his tenure is completely separate from this issue and if anyone should be mad about this, it should be me - I have my Master's graduation there on the 15th.

 

[SeronimusPratt]

Maybe now they can expand the concourse for wvpaper

 

[skygusty]

They did asbestos abatement through the whole Health Sciences Center around the same time. I suppose Eddie was somehow at fault for that too. Asbestos used to be commonly used. One of my work study jobs was in the geology department. They used to have an asbestos mineral specimen that would be handed around in the labs for mineral identification classes.

 

[Mountain Man]

I don't know how old you are but you come off like the typical clueless fan who spouts off with no facts. Beilein was under contract and also in a tourney and didn't want to talk when Ed came calling so he settled for Dakitch. By the time DD was gone Beilein's season was done and it fell into place. He couldn't get him when he wanted. And he didn't screw up Huggins first time around either.
As far as Stew goes, what he did with that team leading up to his hire show tremendous leadership and on top of winning that game the way they did, was his audition. Who knew he would change the offense when he said he wasn't going to.
Besides, his record was not a failure and he won a few bowls. It's too bad he tapped into some of your insecurities where you still have to bash him like some others where he can't defend himself.
EP did a terrific job running WVU's AD and kept it in the black, along with other things. You don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know how old you are but you come off like the typical clueless fan who spouts off with no facts. Beilein was under contract and also in a tourney and didn't want to talk when Ed came calling so he settled for Dakitch. By the time DD was gone Beilein's season was done and it fell into place. He couldn't get him when he wanted. And he didn't screw up Huggins first time around either.
As far as Stew goes, what he did with that team leading up to his hire show tremendous leadership and on top of winning that game the way they did, was his audition. Who knew he would change the offense when he said he wasn't going to.
Besides, his record was not a failure and he won a few bowls. It's too bad he tapped into some of your insecurities where you still have to bash him like some others where he can't defend himself.
EP did a terrific job running WVU's AD and kept it in the black, along with other things. You don't know what you're talking about.

I wouldn't call it a terrific job. When $ was needed EP made excuses saying there was no $. OL made a few phone calls and found a way to get things done. His assistant Parsons was incompetent as they come. Saying soliciting for new boosters was a waste of time in 99. You call that terrific? BTW it was our major boosters such as Astorg, Alvarez, etc. that made things happen when DickRod was flirting with Bama and to get Huggins to come home. EP admitted himself that he was not a negotiator. (His words not mine) These pro EP/MP supporters must be either related, good friends, or part of the good ol boy network who are pissed that they have no longer have a job at WVU.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

I don't know how old you are but you come off like the typical clueless fan who spouts off with no facts. Beilein was under contract and also in a tourney and didn't want to talk when Ed came calling so he settled for Dakitch. By the time DD was gone Beilein's season was done and it fell into place. He couldn't get him when he wanted. And he didn't screw up Huggins first time around either.
As far as Stew goes, what he did with that team leading up to his hire show tremendous leadership and on top of winning that game the way they did, was his audition. Who knew he would change the offense when he said he wasn't going to.

Besides, his record was not a failure and he won a few bowls. It's too bad he tapped into some of your insecurities where you still have to bash him like some others where he can't defend himself.
EP did a terrific job running WVU's AD and kept it in the black, along with other things. You don't know what you're talking about.

In Casazza's book Waiting for the Fall, he makes it pretty clear that Manchin and Pastilong politically bullied Garrison into the decision to hire Stewart and he (Stewart) seemed to be on the inside of that group lobbying. It seems Garrison didn't want to make the hire, and wouldn't have if it wasn't for the political pressure. He had a list of much better candidates and wanted a true search and competent replacement. So the President of the university wasn't even comfortable with hiring Stewart and knew it wasn't the right course of action.

You are correct that Stewart showed great leadership filling RR's shoes and I commend him for it, but that should have been a one-off event. We all know there's more to being a head coach than getting a teamed prepared for one single game. I won't dive into his failures but Stewart was not equipped to be a HC for a major college football program and removing him needed to be done.

 

[Rootmaster]

enginEER...what is aesbes?

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

Well anyway .... the asbestos was "encapsulated in an inaccessible area" it wasn't discovered until these current renovations.

I guess the OP is inferring that Ed Pastilong sneaked into the Coliseum when it was being built and did two things ... 1) He encapsulated some asbestos, and 2) He hid it in an inaccessible area.

And EP would have gotten away with it if we hadn't of joined the B12 and increased the flow of money into the athletic department.

 

[dangerousdaneerfan]

Well anyway .... the asbestos was "encapsulated in an inaccessible area" it wasn't discovered until these current renovations.

I guess the OP is inferring that Ed Pastilong sneaked into the Coliseum when it was being built and did two things ... 1) He encapsulated some asbestos, and 2) He hid it in an inaccessible area.

And EP would have gotten away with it if we hadn't of joined the B12 and increased the flow of money into the athletic department.

No, I am implying that IF there was compete abatement, there should have been a complete abatement. Place was closed down long enough to strip it clean from rafters to floor. And I know this because my dad suffered from asbestosis from working on construction projects with transite et al.

 

[dave]

No, I am implying that IF there was compete abatement, there should have been a complete abatement. Place was closed down long enough to strip it clean from rafters to floor. And I know this because my dad suffered from asbestosis from working on construction projects with transite et al.

There is no way to get rid of all the asbestos in that olace and it is not practical. If it isnt breaking up or cracking leave it alone.

 

[SeronimusPratt]

I wouldn't call it a terrific job. When $ was needed EP made excuses saying there was no $. OL made a few phone calls and found a way to get things done. His assistant Parsons was incompetent as they come. Saying soliciting for new boosters was a waste of time in 99. You call that terrific? BTW it was our major boosters such as Astorg, Alvarez, etc. that made things happen when DickRod was flirting with Bama and to get Huggins to come home. EP admitted himself that he was not a negotiator. (His words not mine) These pro EP/MP supporters must be either related, good friends, or part of the good ol boy network who are pissed that they have no longer have a job at WVU.

This may be one of the most intelligent posts I've seen in my time.

 

[mneilmont]

in all fairness, Fast Ed had his issues, as everyone does, but this isn't one of his. This was done when the Coliseum was built way back in 1970.

Ed was leading tours into the facility in '69-70. I suspect he was carrying the stuff in his pockets. He knew RR would screw him some day and this was the only way to retaliate. Now makes sense why BMOC was acting as a tour guide.

 

[irishladdy]

No, I am implying that IF there was compete abatement, there should have been a complete abatement. Place was closed down long enough to strip it clean from rafters to floor. And I know this because my dad suffered from asbestosis from working on construction projects with transite et al.

I'm confused. So Ed Pastilong killed your father?

 

[dangerousdaneerfan]

I'm confused. So Ed Pastilong killed your father?

No, my dad watched in horror from the roof of the main building as 51 of his fellow construction workers were killed when their scaffold collapsed in the cooling tower at the Pleasants Power Station near St. Marys in April, 1978. He took that memory to his grave 18 years later.

 

[LowFatMilk]

No, my dad watched in horror from the roof of the main building as 51 of his fellow construction workers were killed when their scaffold collapsed in the cooling tower at the Pleasants Power Station near St. Marys in April, 1978. He took that memory to his grave 18 years later.

Oh.. ..kind of like watching 9/11 live (or fighting in war)... ..but a little more dramatic ?

Pathetic if people take such images to their graves though...

 

[irishladdy]

No, my dad watched in horror from the roof of the main building as 51 of his fellow construction workers were killed when their scaffold collapsed in the cooling tower at the Pleasants Power Station near St. Marys in April, 1978. He took that memory to his grave 18 years later.

Pastilong would have been a 34 year old in 1978, learning the ropes in the athletic department at WVU... what would he have to gain by sabotaging a construction crew in St. Mary's?

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Oh.. ..kind of like watching 9/11 live (or fighting in war)... ..but a little more dramatic ?

Pathetic if people take such images to their graves though...

I think witnessing 51 people you personally know die in front of you would be pretty traumatic and the event would certainly stay with you forever....not sure why you're being so harsh.

I wasn't familiar with the event, but online it's referred to as the the deadliest construction accident in US history.

The OP doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck on this one, though.

 

[82EE]

Ed was leading tours into the facility in '69-70. I suspect he was carrying the stuff in his pockets. He knew RR would screw him some day and this was the only way to retaliate. Now makes sense why BMOC was acting as a tour guide.

Pastilong was busy playing football coach in 69-70. He did not join the WVU AD staff until 1975.

 

[mneilmont]

Pastilong was busy playing football coach in 69-70. He did not join the WVU AD staff until 1975.

Don't question what you have read, but I did consider the tour before I left the campus in Sept '69. I don't think he was coaching those who were following him thru the construction site. And, I really was not drinking that much that summer.

Also, when I was asked for my choice for AD between Ed(WVU) and some applicant from Bi12(Colo?), I positively said Ed because he had a history with the University. I did not want to allow someone else to use WVU as a stepping stone. You will better understand if you are from the era.

 

[82EE]

Don't question what you have read, but I did consider the tour before I left the campus in Sept '69. I don't think he was coaching those who were following him thru the construction site. And, I really was not drinking that much that summer.

Also, when I was asked for my choice for AD between Ed(WVU) and some applicant from Bi12(Colo?), I positively said Ed because he had a history with the University. I did not want to allow someone else to use WVU as a stepping stone. You will better understand if you are from the era.

Pastilong was the football coach at Salem from 1969 to the 1975 season, he was a high school coach at Madison in 68, he was recruiting coordinator for WVU football in 1976, then an administrative role for football, he did not become an assist AD at WVU until 1979. He had zero involvement in the building of the BB facility that began in 1968. I from both the Era and the area. Drugs are bad for memory I suggest you moderate.

The only reason he would have to be on campus in 1969 would be to take Graduate classes, he had no role in the AD office unti 1979, and I remember when he left the football staff to join the AD office.
If he was there giving tours, it was as a graduate student, intern, or just a volunteer, he had no input to its construction.

 

[HurdyGurdyEer]

Asbestos is kind of like lead paint... ...not a big deal unless it's being ate by kids It's really not a health risk most times. That's to say, as previously mentioned, asbestos isn't s threat unless it's in the air (disturbed...like an insulation or dust).

WVU paid to have it removed and I would believe it's on the contractor and/or the inspector If it wasn't done correctly (or in full).

OK .... let's state the obvious since my original point seems to have sailed right over some peoples' heads.

How in the world can you do an "abatement" on something that no one knew was there?
The stuff was encapsulated.
It was hidden.
It was hidden in an inaccessible location.

Get it?
It was like buried treasure in your back yard that you don't know about.
No one knew it was there until they started tearing the place apart as part of the current renovation. No one, of course, except Ed Pastilong who snuck in one night while the Coliseum was being built and hid the asbestos.