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so.... the covid vaxxes kill TWO PEOPLE for EVERY ONE THEY SAVE... just another build back better victory for obiden inc. !

Why did I ignore it? Because, again, it's simple: I ONLY CARE WHAT MY DECISION IS REGARDING THE VACCINE. If people choose to, that's their choice (risk). I chose not to take the vaccine (or risk). It's called personal freedom and choice. I'm 100% against mandates, but I'm 100% supportive of any person who gets the vaccine on their own, or chooses not to get it. Reading numbers about this or that has no bearing on my situation. It's personal choice, 100%. His statistics would not change my mind, so why bother? But his misleading threat title is not necessary, and neither are the pro-vaccine headlines either.
You think I don't understand what you're saying but I do...perfectly. I just can't get you to realize the censorship and outright disinformation about the dangers of the vaccine that are being ignored and in fact buried by those who are only interested in scaring everyone into taking it. '82 wasn't trying to "mislead" anyone he was simply using a technique the media often utilizes to grab attention. However that same media dutifully tries to hide very real dangers behind this vaccine since that doesn't fit their fear narrative of imminent death if exposed to the virus without it.

The difference between the way you saw that headline and how I read it, is it peaked my interest to learn more even though I was skeptical of the 2-to-1 attention grabber (as I stated). You on the other hand completely dismissed what was posted, had no interest in finding out anything more about it, and STILL reject the emphasis behind the information that these vaccines are not as "safe" as they're being peddled. OK, so you've decided not to take it. Great. So then you completely shut off any other information about it beyond your own reasoning for that?

Fine. Live in your world. However when others are both interested in and are pursuing or presenting vital information about this virus, treatments for it, even these so called "vaccines", outright rejecting it is equally dangerous IMO. Now I'll leave you alone about it because our discussion is pointless.

I wish you were as skeptical of all that "collusion" BS we were bombarded with for three years. I didn't read your "complaints" about sensationalized or misleading headlines during any of that circus.

Why not?
 
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Imagine the ramifications to Big Pharma and the politicians in their pocket, if people knew eating right, exercising, and generally being healthy stopped them from getting sick more than any drug, medication or amount of social distancing ever could ?
 
Imagine the ramifications to Big Pharma and the politicians in their pocket, if people knew eating right, exercising, and generally being healthy stopped them from getting sick more than any drug, medication or amount of social distancing ever could ?
Sad thing is , Dr's have been saying this for generations. People are always looking for the easy or convenient way or a magic pill. When people enjoy the outdoors more & cook at home they tend to be healthier & live better lives.
 
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Imagine the ramifications to Big Pharma and the politicians in their pocket, if people knew eating right, exercising, and generally being healthy stopped them from getting sick more than any drug, medication or amount of social distancing ever could ?
It simply baffles me why the CDC which is supposed to be all about "prevention" of infectious diseases doesn't stress these common sense defense approaches more, or champion the known therapeutics which have worked treating infected patients? Instead they're pushing these worthless "vaccines" which don't prevent infection, those stupid masks which are absolutely useless, and these dangerous "booster shots" which are potentially lethal and may in fact hamper your immune system's response to future viral outbreaks!

Unreal.
 
It simply baffles me why the CDC which is supposed to be all about "prevention" of infectious diseases doesn't stress these common sense defense approaches more, or champion the known therapeutics which have worked treating infected patients? Instead they're pushing these worthless "vaccines" which don't prevent infection, those stupid masks which are absolutely useless, and these dangerous "booster shots" which are potentially lethal and may in fact hamper your immune system's response to future viral outbreaks!

Unreal.
It is simply, the agencies that was put in place to protect us has been infiltrated and bought off . For the love of God, they have the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies setting on the boards of CDC & the FDA. I'm not against big pharma making money, I'm all for it , they invest & many intelligent people work to develop drugs to help us , they are in business to make money, they should not be able to police themselves . Greed will be our downfall.
 
It is simply, the agencies that was put in place to protect us has been infiltrated and bought off . For the love of God, they have the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies setting on the boards of CDC & the FDA. I'm not against big pharma making money, I'm all for it , they invest & many intelligent people work to develop drugs to help us , they are in business to make money, they should not be able to police themselves . Greed will be our downfall.
I just can't understand what is the CDC's problem with just putting out the most accurate, up-to-date, & effective treatments or information? Doctors know what works, and what isn't working? Why doesn't the CDC?

Because it's all part of a giant scam designed to simply control us & then conform us. Resist, reject, defy. Screw these Socialists bastards.! :mad:
 
It is simply, the agencies that was put in place to protect us has been infiltrated and bought off . For the love of God, they have the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies setting on the boards of CDC & the FDA. I'm not against big pharma making money, I'm all for it , they invest & many intelligent people work to develop drugs to help us , they are in business to make money, they should not be able to police themselves . Greed will be our downfall.
If they want to be useful (Big Pharm CEO's), then have their companies come out with the vaccine that stops cancer. Yeah, that one. The one that everyone SHOULD know they have the knowledge to create, but we sit quietly while they allow people to suffer and die from it, while making BILLIONS from its treatment.

No....sorry RT.......this is where I disagree with you on them making big $$$$.........where they could make a difference, they choose not to simply because of GREED. To Hell with them all.
 
If they want to be useful (Big Pharm CEO's), then have their companies come out with the vaccine that stops cancer. Yeah, that one. The one that everyone SHOULD know they have the knowledge to create, but we sit quietly while they allow people to suffer and die from it, while making BILLIONS from its treatment.

No....sorry RT.......this is where I disagree with you on them making big $$$$.........where they could make a difference, they choose not to simply because of GREED. To Hell with them all.
I dont care how much money they make as long as its honestly.
Now on a personal level, it makes me want to puke the thought that CEOs would knowingly or even know there could be a chance to harm people & cover anything up for a buck .
It makes me just as sick that American corporations move factories overseas & let our communities wither & die for .99cents , but we vote for politicians who make this possible & make it the most profitable.
I'm not sure they have a cure for cancer way to many very very rich & famous people's kids die from it, not to mention even pharmaceutical CEOs & their kids die from it
 
I dont care how much money they make as long as its honestly.
Now on a personal level, it makes me want to puke the thought that CEOs would knowingly or even know there could be a chance to harm people & cover anything up for a buck .
It makes me just as sick that American corporations move factories overseas & let our communities wither & die for .99cents , but we vote for politicians who make this possible & make it the most profitable.
I'm not sure they have a cure for cancer way to many very very rich & famous people's kids die from it, not to mention even pharmaceutical CEOs & their kids die from it
Big Pharma won't admit cheaper, more available, and better researched alternatives to their exotic "vaccines" both work better and are less expensive as treatments for Covid. Why are they "exempt" from administering their own medicine?

MWV called it...greed...pure and simple.
 
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Big Pharma won't admit cheaper, more available, and better researched alternatives to their exotic "vaccines" both work better and are less expensive as treatments for Covid. Why are they "exempt" from administering their own medicine?

MWV called it...greed...pure and simple.
I agree it is greed on big pharma ( greed is what pushes them to create better products) & its power grab from politicians & they are both scratching each other's balz .
How would you stop greed in the medical field big pharma included in a free market society?
The only way I see to do it is to put a profit cap on it like we do with public utilities. Any other way ?
 
I agree it is greed on big pharma ( greed is what pushes them to create better products) & its power grab from politicians & they are both scratching each other's balz .
How would you stop greed in the medical field big pharma included in a free market society?
The only way I see to do it is to put a profit cap on it like we do with public utilities. Any other way ?
Make them liable for the adverse effects of their poison. They're well documented, just not being reported. Also stop subsidizing their research...let 'em risk their own capital for their failures or losses. (this is done through the tax code and what they get to write off through R&D)
 
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Make them liable for the adverse effects of their poison. They're well documented, just not being reported. Also stop subsidizing their research...let 'em risk their own capital for their failures or losses. (this is done through the tax code and what they get to write off through R&D)
I agree 100% with this . Make employers responsible for the employee if they mandate it ...bet all the mandates would be gone
 
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I agree 100% with this . Make employers responsible for the employee if they mandate it ...bet all the mandates would be gone
I also think all so called "mandates" issued by this administration through their BS EOs, should immediately be "exempt" from "exemptions"! Why is it the very bureaucrats who are forcing us to comply get to be "exempt" from their own stupid rules?

Enough.
 
 
@MountaineerWV won't bother to read this for his kid's safety. He's only concerned about not taking the vaccine for himself. 😏
Why are you being an a$$ towards me on this? Personal freedom is what this nation is supposed to be about. And you are attacking my personal choice?

EDIT: My wife took the shot (her choice). One of my kids took the shot (her choice). The others, haven't (their choice).
 
Why are you being an a$$ towards me on this? And you are attacking my personal choice?
Perhaps you'd prefer I quote back your own words on your alternative interest about any of this besides for yourself? So if you don't care about this for anyone but yourself (your words) why are you getting your panties all stained over what I'm repeating that YOU said? 🤔

@MountaineerWV trying to avoid what he said about the so called "vaccines"
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Perhaps you'd prefer I quote back your own words on your alternative interest about any of this besides for yourself? So if you don't care about this for anyone but yourself (your words) why are you getting your panties all stained over what I'm repeating that YOU said? 🤔

@MountaineerWV trying to avoid what he said about the so called "vaccines"
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Because you mentioned me specifically, perhaps? Let people make up their own minds, and stop being an ass. I'm against mandates and the anti-vaxxers. Let people make up their own minds.
 
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Because you mentioned me specifically, perhaps? Let people make up their own minds, and stop being an ass. I'm against mandates and the anti-vaxxers. Let people make up their own minds.

I agree! I was just curious how you decide the safety of your kids ignoring vital information @WVU82 offered ITT about the deaths and other adverse effects from the vaccine?

Remember what YOU said?
Considering I didn't/won't take the vaccine, I couldn't care less.

Why did I ignore it? Because, again, it's simple: I ONLY CARE WHAT MY DECISION IS REGARDING THE VACCINE.

Wonder where your kids get information about the dangers of this vaccine? From you?😕
 
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Have you seen the document dump on the Pfizer vaccine data? It's a bombshell. No wonder the FDA fought to keep it hidden for 55 years.

Here is the quick takeaway: By February of 2021, Pfizer had already received more than 1,200 reports of death allegedly caused by the vaccine and tens of thousands of reported adverse events, including 23 cases of spontaneous abortions out of 270 pregnancies and more than 2,000 reports of cardiac disorders.

Bear in mind; this is Pfizer's own data. Here's the link: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-po
 
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Also consider the controllers are more concerned about those who refuse to take the "jab" than they are about those who have the vaccine yet still are getting sick!🤔

A staggering 80 Republican House members voted to pass the Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act this week, which many are warning could be used to track down unvaccinated people and force compliance.

Breitbart reports the bill, H.R. 550, dedicates $400 million to “immunization system data modernization and expansion,” and specifically to build “a confidential, population-based, computerized database that records immunization doses administered by any health care provider to persons within the geographic area covered by that database.”

Speaking to Breitbart about the Orwellian resolution, one of the 130 Republicans to vote “no,” Rep. Mary Miller (R-Ill.), warned that if federally ratified the bill would enable the government to “track” down the unvaccinated, who “will be targeted and forced to comply with Biden’s crazy ‘global vaccination’ vision.”

“These systems are designed to allow for the sharing of crucial information and maintenance of records. Do we really trust the government to protect our medical records?” Miller said in an exclusive statement to Breitbart.

The bill’s author even bragged in her press release that these systems will help the government remind patients when they are due for a recommended vaccine and identify areas with low vaccination rates to ensure equitable distribution of vaccines. This was clearly a legislative tool to enforce vaccine mandates and force their Orwellian rules onto those who do not comply.”

Indeed, the bill’s sponsor, Rep. Ann Kuster (D-NH) ostensibly claimed the database could help “remind patients when they are due for a recommended vaccine” and “ensure equitable distribution of vaccines.”

Rep. Miller added: “As I’ve said many times before, the government is not your doctor. The federal government has no business inserting itself into private healthcare matters of Americans. There is no reason for them to collect this data, it is an affront to our liberties and health freedoms… This kind of legislation is always passed because the government has its hands in everything nowadays, often at the expense of the freedoms and privacy of Americans. This bill would allow the government to collect, study, and share your private health data. There are endless ways the government could potentially use that information against you – purposefully and accidentally.”

Another Republican congressman who voted “no,” Rep. Byron Donalds (R-Fla.), complained the bill was merely more wasteful spending by Democrats who are more and more refusing to respect medical privacy.

This legislation would unnecessarily appropriate millions of taxpayer funds intended to expand bureaucracy in Washington. A database solely created to record and collect confidential vaccination information of Americans explicitly encroaches upon individuals’ fundamental right to medical privacy,” Donalds told Breitbart. “As a fiscal conservative, I cannot in good faith support legislation that contributes to the Democrats’ habitual pattern of reckless and wasteful spending and the intrusive heavy hand of government.”

Miller told Breitbart the resolution could also “give blue states millions in taxpayers funds to enforce vaccine mandates,” as the bill states grants could be awarded to local health departments that best adhere to CDC guidelines.

Bill sponsor Kuster, meanwhile, is urging the Senate to also approve the resolution claiming Covid underscored the “urgent need for upgrades.”
 
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Wasn't bill Gates who said everyone would be getting vaccinated for everything or something like that
Yes, and what's so funny about it is vaccinated folks are many of the ones showing up in ERs sick with Covid infections! They're just "not as sick" don't 'ya know? :rolleyes:
 
Yes, and what's so funny about it is vaccinated folks are many of the ones showing up in ERs sick with Covid infections! They're just "not as sick" don't 'ya know? :rolleyes:
I set here wondering what kind of person is scared of this new variant. I mean the original was a reason to be extremely cautious, but sore flippin muscles....please !
 
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I set here wondering what kind of person is scared of this new variant. I mean the original was a reason to be extremely cautious, but sore flippin muscles....please !
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