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So, I assume IF Houston beats Louisville....

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..Houston will jump up in the top 10 in the CFB rankings. I mean, they would have two wins versus top 10 teams (Oklahoma and Louisville), and it's already been a precedent that losing to unranked teams does not matter (example: Clemson and Michigan)........

[thumbsup] Solid system we have.....
 
Sarcasm noted about the Barry Alvarez Selection Committee, which seems determined to put TWO Big 10 teams into the Final Four. Wonder why?
 
It's feeling a lot like 2007 all over again. Let's hope we capitalize this time around
 
UL looks like we did that time we went down to Lubbock as the high flying offensive juggernaut with a QB who had the Heisman locked up.
In the span of a week, that Heisman winner and the team completely fell apart. Thus proceeded the next 4 months of misery with the rest of that season, basketball and the start of baseball before we shocked the conference.
 
Come on Galloway and Kanell.....you guys said Lamar Jackson could beat teams by himself.......you said Louisville is a top 4 team......eat your crow......
 
In the span of a week, that Heisman winner and the team completely fell apart. Thus proceeded the next 4 months of misery with the rest of that season, basketball and the start of baseball before we shocked the conference.

This game just makes me love having a defense. Sure basketball-like scores are fun but you cannot realistically expect an offense to execute at a high level and carry a team through 3-4 tough opponents plus a handful of dangerous teams.

As great as the Pat White teams were they were seriously flawed by how much they relied on being able to break 40+ yard runs to win games.
 
Houston to #5, Louisville to #6. WVU wins, it'll be #17. WVU loses, it'll be unranked.
Ridiculous. Which is why the Barry Alvarez Playoff Selection Committee will do it. So, Houston is 10 better than Oklahoma and 31x2=62 better than Louisville so a 2-TD WVU victory over the Sooners should make the Mountaineers rise up to, what, #12? The bias is so obvious that let's just not play the games and let Alvarez line up the 4 teams he was going to put in there anyway. I want Wisconsin (Alvarez's team) and Penn State to play for the Big 10 title. Then let's see what happens if Ohio State and Michigan make the Final Four. The way these nutcases are ranking, it could happen.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17

A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10

I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37

N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21

E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor
 
Well as of NOW it all bodes very well for the Mountaineers imo...the Sooner loss to the Cougars looks 'better' and when we beat them on Saturday? Well....let's see how it's viewed...need a few other chips to fall but never know...
 
He sure seems to be losing that accolade tonight...with NO help from his teammates either...

Accurate and painful trip down memory lane. Geno's downfall was aided by the worst WVU defense of the decade, though.

I just hope WVU beats Oklahoma soundly, by 2 TDs or more, and that Ohio State and Michigan lose before they play each other, and Wisconsin and Penn State play for the Big 10 title.

The only thing the Barry Alvarez Playoff Committee hasn't figured out is how to leave an unbeaten Alabama out of the playoffs so that another Big 10 team can get in. But they're working on it.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17

A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10

I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37

N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21

E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor
 
Accurate and painful trip down memory lane. Geno's downfall was aided by the worst WVU defense of the decade, though.

I just hope WVU beats Oklahoma soundly, by 2 TDs or more, and that Ohio State and Michigan lose before they play each other, and Wisconsin and Penn State play for the Big 10 title.

The only thing the Barry Alvarez Playoff Committee hasn't figured out is how to leave an unbeaten Alabama out of the playoffs so that another Big 10 team can get in. But they're working on it.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17

A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10

I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37

N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21

E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor
For sure CFE...was painful to watch. As I say beat them Sooners and i'll be eager to see the ranks , pending other games results throughout the weekend. No signature win YET for WVU...Saturday will go a long way imo toward rectifying that, especially with this Loo-Ville debacle tonight...but hey, I give these Cougars credit, manhandled them all night long!
 
Serious question. How did Louisville allow a true road game to be scheduled this late in the season on a short week against a very dangerous G5 opponent? Schedulemakers may have cost their school a Heisman and a Natty
 
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Serious question. How did Louisville allow a true road game to be scheduled this late in the season on a short week against a very dangerous G5 opponent? Schedulemakers may have cost their school a Heisman and a Natty
It certainly had all the makings of a so called 'trap game'...just happy I took the Coug's in this week's pick em! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
Serious question. How did Louisville allow a true road game to be scheduled this late in the season on a short week against a very dangerous G5 opponent? Schedulemakers may have cost their school a Heisman and a Natty

Depends on how early Louisville scheduled the game. It may have been leftover from 3-4 years ago before Tom Herman got there. If Texas or Baylor doesn't go after him, they are crazy.

But you are right, looking at it now it was a huge trap game against a Cougars team that could possibly play with anyone on any given day.
 
Serious question. How did Louisville allow a true road game to be scheduled this late in the season on a short week against a very dangerous G5 opponent? Schedulemakers may have cost their school a Heisman and a Natty

This wasn't a last second field goal for a Houston win - they totally dominated this game.

Why even try to blame it on anything but Louisville not near as good as their ranking?
 
This wasn't a last second field goal for a Houston win - they totally dominated this game.

Why even try to blame it on anything but Louisville not near as good as their ranking?

I don't think he's blaming it mainly on that. I think he's saying why schedule such a dangerous team at the end of the year when a loss will devastate your season since it is harder to bounce back from in the polls. It not only hurt Louisville but Jackson most likely lost his Heisman tonight.

However, I do believe they are a top 10 team but they are too flawed on defense to be a Top 4 playoff team.
 
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Ridiculous. Which is why the Barry Alvarez Playoff Selection Committee will do it. So, Houston is 10 better than Oklahoma and 31x2=62 better than Louisville so a 2-TD WVU victory over the Sooners should make the Mountaineers rise up to, what, #12? The bias is so obvious that let's just not play the games and let Alvarez line up the 4 teams he was going to put in there anyway. I want Wisconsin (Alvarez's team) and Penn State to play for the Big 10 title. Then let's see what happens if Ohio State and Michigan make the Final Four. The way these nutcases are ranking, it could happen.


M anhandled Missouri, 26-11

O rdinary against Youngstown, 38-21

U nnerving miracle goalline tip/interception escapes BYU, 35-32

N o quit against Kansas State, 17-16

T ony’s turbulence tore up Texas Tech, 48-17

A nother defense whipping, of TCU, 34-10

I gnominy of turnovers against Oklahoma State, 20-37

N o problem decimating Kansas, 48-21

E xcellent, timely defense AGAIN; beat Texas, 24-20

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor
We'll see this weekend if you guys have any chance. OSU beat OK by 21 at OK, so you'd better win by more than that if you want a chance!

Houston has also beaten the top team in the b12, better blow them out....
 
I don't think he's blaming it mainly on that. I think he's saying why schedule such a dangerous team at the end of the year when a loss will devastate your season since it is harder to bounce back from in the polls. It not only hurt Louisville but Jackson most likely lost his Heisman tonight.

However, I do believe they are a top 10 team but they are too flawed on defense to be a Top 4 playoff team.

ESPN posted tonight that Louisville had the 6th easiest schedule among Power 5 schools before the game tonight. They have only won 2 games over teams with winning records. Almost got beat by Wake and are accused of having their game plan.

Totally and completely dominated by a Houston team that is unranked. Why?
 
ESPN posted tonight that Louisville had the 6th easiest schedule among Power 5 schools before the game tonight. They have only won 2 games over teams with winning records. Almost got beat by Wake and are accused of having their game plan.

Totally and completely dominated by a Houston team that is unranked. Why?
Why did the team at the top of the weakest football conference lose to "unranked houston" as well?
Then their other "playoff worthy team" almost get beat by KSU TX and BYU?
 
Why did the team at the top of the weakest football conference lose to "unranked houston" as well?
Then their other "playoff worthy team" almost get beat by KSU TX and BYU?

Don't remember asking you anything.

I ask Sky why he thought Louisville is still a top ten team?
 
ESPN posted tonight that Louisville had the 6th easiest schedule among Power 5 schools before the game tonight. They have only won 2 games over teams with winning records. Almost got beat by Wake and are accused of having their game plan.

Totally and completely dominated by a Houston team that is unranked. Why?

Houston is and has been underrated all year. If you put Houston vs anyone other than maybe Alabama, I'd consider the game to be a 50/50 shot for Houston winning.

Louisville has a average to bad defense. This years UL team is similar to our 2011 team in my opinion. Both teams have explosive offenses, yet the defense always seemed to allow high amount of yards and points per game and some games the defense just completely broke like our game vs LSU & Syracuse that year in '11. And both teams had games where the offense just didn't click one game and it ended up with a lost (Louisville tonight vs Houston and us/WVU vs Syracuse and the 2nd half of the LSU game in 2011).

Houston is definitely a top 15 team and I still think Louisville is a Top 8-10 team (they pass the eye test and they barely lost to a Top 5 team in Clemson and lost to an underrated UH). Petrino will have them ready for blood the rest of the season and in the next few games and he will most likely replace his DC and Safeties coach at the end of the year.

There really is not one truly dominate team this year. Heck, Alabama has looked pretty bad in some games.
 
Alabama is the only one that I think has been dominate - even with only a 10 - 0 shutout of LSU.

Everyone else has lost - most have lost to unranked teams that have 3 or more losses. For anyone to act like any conference is that much better than another conference is ridiculous IMO.

You are using a Clemson loss as proof - but if not for some luck, Clemson would have lost a couple of more games, especially the NC St game. People keep trying to use one matrix to prove their team but then change the matrix when it comes to other teams.

This last week proved more than anything, that even the so called "top teams" are being beaten by unranked teams.

...and if Houston is a top 15 - they lost to Navy and a team with a losing record (without playing Houston) SMU. They are not even going to get to play in their conference championship - a non Power 5 conference at that.
 
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I honestly do not think one P5 conference is head and shoulders above the others. If any conference is the strongest this year (top to bottom), I'd have to go with the Big 10 but that is just my opinion. This is why I wish the playoffs would extend to 8 teams (the champ of each P5 conference gets a spot, 1 non P-5 team who wins their conference gets a spot(the conference champ with the highest ranking) and then 2 at-large bids) because like this year has shown, none of the top 4 teams look unstoppable and look like any of them could lose on any given day to a team that is "below them"). I'd like to go to 16, but that doesn't sound feasable.

As for Clemson, some times all you need is luck. Just like the Auburn-Alabama game 3 yrs ago and the Mich-Mich St game from last year. I think Deshaun Watson is a top-3 QB in the nation and may be the most dangerous since he is a legit dual-threat QB and he has that toughness and the ability to handle adversity which is due to starting lots of games and being in big time situations in which he has both failed and succeeded. A lot of good to great teams sometimes get dealt tough games by teams they should blow out of the water. WVU has had our fair share of those games when we've been ranked through the years and we've both lost and won those types of games. Same can go for Houston in this talk.

But I do agree with you that this year has been a real eye-opener about the CFR's and how they do seem biased toward certain teams & conferences. All we have to do is win out the rest of the year and show the committee that we are a tough team that has ran through a tough conference gauntlet and can play with any of the big boys from the other conferences.


Alabama is the only one that I think has been dominate - even with only a 10 - 0 shutout of LSU.

Everyone else has lost - most have lost to unranked teams that have 3 or more losses. For anyone to act like any conference is that much better than another conference is ridiculous IMO.

You are using a Clemson loss as proof - but if not for some luck, Clemson would have lost a couple of more games, especially the NC St game. People keep trying to use one matrix to prove their team but then change the matrix when it comes to other teams.

This last week proved more than anything, that even the so called "top teams" are being beaten by unranked teams.

...and if Houston is a top 15 - they lost to Navy and a team with a losing record (without playing Houston) SMU. They are not even going to get to play in their conference championship - a non Power 5 conference at that.
 
Serious question. How did Louisville allow a true road game to be scheduled this late in the season on a short week against a very dangerous G5 opponent? Schedulemakers may have cost their school a Heisman and a Natty


That is a great question. The best part is that this series was probably made during Kragy's time there.

Nothing sweeter than Cardinal tears though. Been a fave of mine since 2005
 
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Why did the team at the top of the weakest football conference lose to "unranked houston" as well?
Then their other "playoff worthy team" almost get beat by KSU TX and BYU?


Good thing the committee looks at "almost loses" in their criteria.....oh wait.

If we beat OK, we will be in contention. If we don't, then we won't deserve it.

Either way....I won't be crying in my beer on another teams board.
 
Houston shouldn't be top 15. They're not even going to win their division in the AAC. I admit however they have a horrible loss to SMU going for them.
 
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In the past 12 months Houston has beat Florida State, Oklahoma, and Louisville all ranked top 10 when Houston beat them. Can anyone in the Big 12 claim that
 
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