So... a conf championship game?

[Winter Tim]

Is the Big 12 still planning on playing Round Robin - 1 division - then a conference championship game between #1 and #2? What purpose does that serve. Say we beat Baylor 40-10 in last game of season to finish 9-0 and they finish 8-1. Then we play them in a conference championship game the next week and lose 24-23.... we both finish 9-1... having beaten each other once. They would be conference champs?
If we have a conference championship game, it seems the only purpose is pressure from the other conferences to make sure we add another loss to one team to keep two Big 12s from reaching the 4-team playoff.
Why have a conference championship game when every team plays each other during the season?

 

[coalcountry52]

Because the other four somehow think it's better to duck 4-5 other teams in the conference, play an extra game and then call the winner of that "champions."

 

[Buckaineer]

No way to spin it although undoubtedly they will- a ten team round robin CCG is going to be yet another in a long line of pr disasters for this conference.

Can't imagine what they'll say when the lower ranked team beats the higher ranked one and knocks the BIg 12 champion out of the playoff - and it's likely many many times

 

[skygusty]

Is the Big 12 still planning on playing Round Robin - 1 division - then a conference championship game between #1 and #2? What purpose does that serve. Say we beat Baylor 40-10 in last game of season to finish 9-0 and they finish 8-1. Then we play them in a conference championship game the next week and lose 24-23.... we both finish 9-1... having beaten each other once. They would be conference champs?
If we have a conference championship game, it seems the only purpose is pressure from the other conferences to make sure we add another loss to one team to keep two Big 12s from reaching the 4-team playoff.
Why have a conference championship game when every team plays each other during the season?

It all stems from someone claiming that the Big12 was psychologically disadvantaged, arguments for an additional data point and pushed over the edge by greed.

 

[Rootmaster]

So...what good does round robin scheduling do when two teams meet for a championship game...after they have already met in the season (guaranteed with ten teams and nine conference games). At least in the other P5 conferences it isn't a given due to larger number of teams, divisions and eight games within conference. This is as stupid as it gets. And, before some say I am crazy consider this scenario. Starting in 2017, our Mountaineers run the schedule and finish 12-0, and the next best team finishes at 10-2 including the obvious loss to WVU. Now they meet at a neutral site for the Championship and the 10-2 team beats the Mountaineers on a last second field goal. They are champions? And the conference is left out of the playoffs. You can't brag about everyone playing everyone and then turn around and have a championship game that is anti-climatic to the season...that is the kind of crap that politicians do, not athletes.

The only way out of this "stupidity box" by the folks who run the Little 10 is to dial back conference games to eight and leave the chance of two teams meeting each other for the championship who did not play during the season.

The current reasoning is short sighted and is another obstacle in the path of any conference team getting to the playoffs.

The Little 10 is destined to stay the 5th best P5 conference...until it implodes in 2025 or so. WVU better have the national credentials built up by then.

 

[Woody in Helvetia]

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The only way out of this "stupidity box" by the folks who run the Little 10 is to dial back conference games to eight and leave the chance of two teams meeting each other for the championship who did not play during the season.
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*8 conference games can not be done. A conference of less than 12 can have a CCG only if the conferece has a full round robin schedule.

And please do not decide to go to divisions

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Let's get back to the OP's point. It IS stupid. All it does it increase the chance that the Big 12 champ, after beating every team in the conference, will lose and not make the Football Final Four. OK, there's more money from TV for the unnecessary title game.

The problem is that the Big is the only conference that got it right -- everyone plays everyone and THAT settles the title -- so the other 4 conferences that got it wrong have to convince the one right guy in the room that he's wrong. And apparently they have.

Money aside, this is about as stupid an idea as I've ever heard. The Big 12 will never have a champ when you play every team in the conference like the Big 10 had with Iowa, the FOURTH best team in the conference, last year playing in the championship game while 2 teams better than Iowa were on the sidelines because the top 3 played each other and Iowa didn't play them.

THAT is a stupid way to determine a conference champion, by who you do NOT play.

I hope that WVU or Baylor goes undefeated and wipes the floor with the other 3 conference champs in the Football Final Four.


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