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Since the Left can't win elections with their failed ideas, try just winning more votes

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They've been at it since the late 1990's. (following the GOP revolution when they suddenly flipped Congress after 50 years) From 1980 through 2004, no Democrat Presidential nominee received a majority of the popular vote! Democrats have since gone on to lose a majority of State Legislatures and Governorships. In order to stop the bleeding, they had to come up with a way to assure getting a majority of the votes, particularly in closely contested races.

Enter mail in ballots, and now an even more insidious vote generating scam.....ranked choice voting (RCV)

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If the Democrats had any interest in election integrity, the chaos created by all-mail elections would cause them to hesitate before meddling further with the election system. Instead, they are aggressively promoting yet another and even more chaotic “improvement” to the system: ranked-choice voting (RCV) Voters rank every candidate in a given race from his first choice to his last. If no candidate wins a majority on the first ballot, the one with the fewest votes is eliminated, the ballots on which that candidate had been ranked first are changed to the second choice, and the votes are recounted. This process continues until one candidate achieves a majority

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The combination of all-mail voting and ranked-choice voting will make the election process less transparent while rendering it unnecessarily complicated and protracted. It will increase opportunities for fraud while coercing Americans to “rank” fringe candidates they would never support under normal circumstances.
 
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Until the Republicans learn to do what the Democrats do they will continue to lose. There's the election process we all want then there's the one we got. Play their game and win then you can negotiate changes. You can't negotiate if they keep winning. It's that simple.
 
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Until the Republicans learn to do what the Democrats do they will continue to lose. There's the election process we all want then there's the one we got. Play their game and win then you can negotiate changes. You can't negotiate if they keep winning. It's that simple.
I posted that because I don't believe a lot of people are aware of how aggressively Democrats are pushing this RCV nonsense. We need GOP candidates to run on strong election reforms which include voter I.D., ballot integrity (to prevent the type of fraud found in Arizona) clean voter rolls, and most importantly limits on mail in ballots and ranked choice voting!

I don't think Republicans have to be as dirty and deceitful as Democrats are to win, they just have to make sure it's a Hell of a lot harder for them to cheat. Democrats cannot win unless they can cheat. Republicans can beat them without cheating, simply by making it tougher for them to do it.
 
I posted that because I don't believe a lot of people are aware of how aggressively Democrats are pushing this RCV nonsense. We need GOP candidates to run on strong election reforms which include voter I.D., ballot integrity (to prevent the type of fraud found in Arizona) clean voter rolls, and most importantly limits on mail in ballots and ranked choice voting!

I don't think Republicans have to be as dirty and deceitful as Democrats are to win, they just have to make sure it's a Hell of a lot harder for them to cheat. Democrats cannot win unless they can cheat. Republicans can beat them without cheating, simply by making it tougher for them to do it.
Socialists are not stupid they know Americans will never willingly vote that crap in . They will run Democrats on a moderate republican ticket. They know how to play the system. They know we Americans will not research candidates properly....if they are flashy , tic a box and say what we want to hear they will win
 
I posted that because I don't believe a lot of people are aware of how aggressively Democrats are pushing this RCV nonsense. We need GOP candidates to run on strong election reforms which include voter I.D., ballot integrity (to prevent the type of fraud found in Arizona) clean voter rolls, and most importantly limits on mail in ballots and ranked choice voting!

I don't think Republicans have to be as dirty and deceitful as Democrats are to win, they just have to make sure it's a Hell of a lot harder for them to cheat. Democrats cannot win unless they can cheat. Republicans can beat them without cheating, simply by making it tougher for them to do it.
Isn’t the Georgia State Legislature and Governor conservative? What is Georgia doing to improve election integrity? Specially in its bigger cities.
 
Until the Republicans learn to do what the Democrats do they will continue to lose. There's the election process we all want then there's the one we got. Play their game and win then you can negotiate changes. You can't negotiate if they keep winning. It's that simple.

So in other words...Cheat. I just disagree with that.

It's a crying shame that bleaters are so damned ignorant, they can't see that we are way worse off today than we were under Trump. And if they hate Trump so bad, that they can't even say his name, then just look at it this way. We are far better off under middle to middle-right than we are under middle-left to left. It's worse than that right now though...This country is being run by leftists and Control/Power hungry-freaks on both sides

We The People need to sack up and put ours and our country's best interests in mind and vote that way, or continue down this path of the destruction of our country, by playing the game of "my team needs to win"....
 
So in other words...Cheat. I just disagree with that.

It's a crying shame that bleaters are so damned ignorant, they can't see that we are way worse off today than we were under Trump. And if they hate Trump so bad, that they can't even say his name, then just look at it this way. We are far better off under middle to middle-right than we are under middle-left to left. It's worse than that right now though...This country is being run by leftists and Control/Power hungry-freaks on both sides

We The People need to sack up and put ours and our country's best interests in mind and vote that way, or continue down this path of the destruction of our country, by playing the game of "my team needs to win"....

I didn't say cheat. The law in certain areas allows ballot harvesting. It also allows you to vote early in several places. You know that way if something goes wrong on election day you already voted. I might not those two examples but those are the rules. Democrats have mastered it. If Republicans want to win they better learn to do what the Democrats do.

If not start studying mandarin.
 
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So in other words...Cheat. I just disagree with that.

It's a crying shame that bleaters are so damned ignorant, they can't see that we are way worse off today than we were under Trump. And if they hate Trump so bad, that they can't even say his name, then just look at it this way. We are far better off under middle to middle-right than we are under middle-left to left. It's worse than that right now though...This country is being run by leftists and Control/Power hungry-freaks on both sides

We The People need to sack up and put ours and our country's best interests in mind and vote that way, or continue down this path of the destruction of our country, by playing the game of "my team needs to win"....
We Americans are to shallow to look at policies. The person speaking must look the part .
 
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Isn’t the Georgia State Legislature and Governor conservative? What is Georgia doing to improve election integrity? Specially in its bigger cities.
They're working on cleaning up voter rolls, and there already is a State Law requiring voters show I.D even requesting an absentee ballot. I'll add most of these legitimate efforts to assure integrity of the vote are being fought every inch by Democrats.
 
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Until the Republicans learn to do what the Democrats do they will continue to lose. There's the election process we all want then there's the one we got. Play their game and win then you can negotiate changes. You can't negotiate if they keep winning. It's that simple.
Illegal ballot harvesting (faking votes) is what we need to eliminate. You do that with voter I.D. and in person voting. Absentee ballots should be limited only to people who will not be able to vote in person.
 
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Illegal ballot harvesting (faking votes) is what we need to eliminate. You do that with voter I.D. and in person voting. Absentee ballots should be limited only to people who will not be able to vote in person.

I support voter I.D. just know ballot harvesting isn't illegal everywhere. Opposition to the Democrats need to learn to do it or they won't win.
 
I support voter I.D. just know ballot harvesting isn't illegal everywhere. Opposition to the Democrats need to learn to do it or they won't win.
I agree you play within the rules that are set, but I'm not a fan of manufactured votes or even votes that aren't legitimately cast by the voter. I agree you can't just cede this advantage to them (Dems) but I'm still a firm believer you win with better ideas. They can't win unless they cheat. We win if it isn't even close. Better candidates with better ideas will win more votes for us than manufacturing them.
 
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I agree you play within the rules that are set, but I'm not a fan of manufactured votes or even votes that aren't legitimately cast by the voter. I agree you can't just cede this advantage to them (Dems) but I'm still a firm believer you win with better ideas. They can't win unless they cheat. We win if it isn't even close. Better ideas will will more votes for us than manufacturing them.

The Democrats are not winning with better ideas. Their ideas suck and are Destroying everything they are in charge of. Yet they keep winning elections. Do what they are doing.
 
The Democrats are not winning with better ideas. Their ideas suck and are Destroying everything they are in charge of. Yet they keep winning elections. Do what they are doing.
So in other words... do just like @30CAT suggested in post #6...cheat?

I agree with him...no thanks.
 
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The Democrats are not winning with better ideas. Their ideas suck and are Destroying everything they are in charge of. Yet they keep winning elections.
Do you think they didn't cheat in Georgia with 'tank" Abrams (or want to)? They lost because we had a better candidate with better ideas. You think they didn't cheat in Florida (or try to)? They lost because DeSantis was a better candidate with better ideas. They lost both times because we won in both States with better candidates who had better ideas. They couldn't manufacture enough votes for their poorer candidates to cheat & it wasn't even close.
 
You've mentioned this before...so what type of "ballot harvesting" is legal and where? 🤔

Google ballot harvesting laws by State. It will show the different types and laws for each State.
So in other words... do just like @30CAT suggested in post #6...cheat?

I agree with him...no thanks.

You keep saying cheat?. FFS do the above. The Democrats have read the law. Then they develop a strategy to win. Don't adapt and they will continue to win with idiots like Fetterman. It's got nothing to do with ideas.
 
Google ballot harvesting laws by State. It will show the different types and laws for each State.


You keep saying cheat?. FFS do the above. The Democrats have read the law. Then they develop a strategy to win. Don't adapt and they will continue to win with idiots like Fetterman. It's got nothing to do with ideas.
OK...I'll look into it. Still doesn't explain Governor's races in Georgia, Florida, Texas, and Arkansas. Cheating explains Arizona.
 
OK...I'll look into it. Still doesn't explain Governor's races in Georgia, Florida, Texas, and Arkansas. Cheating explains Arizona.

Are you a closet Democrat that's secretly rooting for them? If not learn to do what they are doing. Beat them at it. Then you get change. It's that simple.
 
Are you a closet Democrat that's secretly rooting for them? If not learn to do what they are doing. Beat them at it. Then you get change. It's that simple.
Asking me if I'm a "closet Democrat" would be like me asking YOU if you're a Jim Crow racist?
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Google ballot harvesting laws by State. It will show the different types and laws for each State.
You can't be arguing Democrats follow the Laws on ballot harvesting? We're talking about all the fraud that they use these Laws to get around illegally manufacturing and trafficking ballots! You're too smart to believe they're actually following those Laws as they're written!
 
I'm sorry...but if we can't get elected on offering voters a better set of ideas, then they might as well vote for Socialist/Leftists.

Umm no it will take everything in play to beat them. If you don't believe that then they have already won.
 
Umm no it will take everything in play to beat them. If you don't believe that then they have already won.
I don't see it as an either or proposition. We can do both and beat them. With better ideas, and LEGAL ballot harvesting...but not cheating.
 
I don't see it as an either or proposition. We can do both and beat them. With better ideas, and LEGAL ballot harvesting...but not cheating.
Look I'm not for cheating to win .
I'm against it in principle.... if they are cheating gonna cheat... I'm gonna play the game as they play and I'm gonna play it better than them .
 
Look I'm not for cheating to win .
I'm against it in principle.... if they are cheating gonna cheat... I'm gonna play the game as they play and I'm gonna play it better than them .
When we square off with Leftists we win by default. We just have better ideas and we're just better people. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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