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Questions For Big 12 Fall Camps

TheRedSon

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Almost there... What are you guys watching in fall camp at your schools? What are the important roster competitions?

Right now Clint Chelf is still the starter at QB for OSU, but it is very close by all accounts between him and JW Walsh. Chelf has the better arm and is a modest threat on the ground. We love Walsh's fire though, and he's a very good runner. Both struggle some with accuracy.

The freshmen kicker is making a real push, and the job is there for the taking.

Wickline will, as always, be sorting through his options on the OL. Program is fairly stacked though, so I think we're just talking about finding the bet five more than a desperate search for an answer.

Desmond Roland should have the backup spot at RB sewn up, but the freshmen Childs and Webster might push him some. Either way, we need to clarify the next man and determine if there will be a RS for anyone. Sophomore Caleb Muncrief is still in the mix as well, although fans seem pretty cool on him. He is very fast...

Questions in the secondary at SS between Shamiel Gary, Zach Craig and Lyndell Johnson (who moved from our STAR, or hybrid, LB spot). At CB we're looking to see where Kansas transfer Patmon fits in the rotation. Justin Gilbert is established on one side, but we've got two talented sophomores with game experience in Peterson and Lampkin. That should be the two-deep at CB, just don't know the order.

Clark and Bean seem like the best at DE. More concerned with how they look than who will win starting spots. A lot of inexperience at DE, but it wasn't a position of strength OSU's replacing. How well this position group performs will say a lot about how well OSU can live up to preseason favorite or cofavorite status. The rest of the front 7 is deep and experienced.
 
Originally posted by TheRedSon:
Almost there... What are you guys watching in fall camp at your schools? What are the important roster competitions?

Right now Clint Chelf is still the starter at QB for OSU, but it is very close by all accounts between him and JW Walsh. Chelf has the better arm and is a modest threat on the ground. We love Walsh's fire though, and he's a very good runner. Both struggle some with accuracy.

The freshmen kicker is making a real push, and the job is there for the taking.

Wickline will, as always, be sorting through his options on the OL. Program is fairly stacked though, so I think we're just talking about finding the bet five more than a desperate search for an answer.

Desmond Roland should have the backup spot at RB sewn up, but the freshmen Childs and Webster might push him some. Either way, we need to clarify the next man and determine if there will be a RS for anyone. Sophomore Caleb Muncrief is still in the mix as well, although fans seem pretty cool on him. He is very fast...

Questions in the secondary at SS between Shamiel Gary, Zach Craig and Lyndell Johnson (who moved from our STAR, or hybrid, LB spot). At CB we're looking to see where Kansas transfer Patmon fits in the rotation. Justin Gilbert is established on one side, but we've got two talented sophomores with game experience in Peterson and Lampkin. That should be the two-deep at CB, just don't know the order.

Clark and Bean seem like the best at DE. More concerned with how they look than who will win starting spots. A lot of inexperience at DE, but it wasn't a position of strength OSU's replacing. How well this position group performs will say a lot about how well OSU can live up to preseason favorite or cofavorite status. The rest of the front 7 is deep and experienced.
There are a LOT of things going on in WVU's fall camp, but the most followed story is the QB's. Right now Dana has not named a favorite. He is going to rotate the 3 guys (Clint Trickett, Paul Millard & Ford Childress) in & out of the 2 deep until he figures it out. Early on there was speculation that Trickett (transfer from Florida State) was going to be the guy, but if he is Holgorsen is definitely not revealing it at this point. Most WVU fans are hoping that Trickett is the guy (no real evidence to support why other than some fans don't think Millard or Childress are ready, but Trickett is because of 1 game he played against Clemson while at FSU lol), but we shall see. QB is going to be a huge factor as to how good we will be this upcoming season.
 
There are three major concerns going into 2013 for OU; first, but in my opinion, not the most glaring issue, who will start @ QB? While to some a foregone conclusion regarding Blake Bell, the competition between B.B. and Trevor Knight thus far in fall camp would lead one to believe that it is a wide open affair.

Next, our punting duties. Tress Way was an outstanding punter and we return all the ingredients for an outstanding overall kicking game but the inconsistencies shown by the current candidates during both spring and fall camp would seem to indicate that we may have a problem.

Finally, and this is by far OU's most glaring problem, there is our front 7. We lost our entire D-line from 2012 and frankly, they were not up to our standards. In fact, losing them may be a blessing in disguise. Unfortunately, the replacements are young, unproven, and there is noone who, at this time, even remotely resembles a Tommy Harris or Gerald McCoy (2 of the best in the Stoops era). We are depending on a juco transfer @ DT to solidfy things and this is riskly business to say the least. Hopefully, Qunicy Russell will be the second coming of Nick Farley.

We have a very tough schedule ( I have seen it rated the 2nd toughest in the nation) & we are coming off a sub-standard season by OU standards with a team that will take the field on 8/31 with a lot of questions. Not since the 2005 season, when Stoops kicked our starting QB off the team before the season started have we had such an uncertainty about the program.
 
There are a LOT of things going on in WVU's fall camp, but the most followed story is the QB's. Right now Dana has not named a favorite. He is going to rotate the 3 guys (Clint Trickett, Paul Millard & Ford Childress) in & out of the 2 deep until he figures it out. Early on there was speculation that Trickett (transfer from Florida State) was going to be the guy, but if he is Holgorsen is definitely not revealing it at this point. Most WVU fans are hoping that Trickett is the guy (no real evidence to support why other than some fans don't think Millard or Childress are ready, but Trickett is because of 1 game he played against Clemson while at FSU lol), but we shall see. QB is going to be a huge factor as to how good we will be this upcoming season.

Looks like Millard won the job. He didn't have a bad game at all Saturday, but our offense is going to take a huge hit from the production it had over the past 2 years if he remains the starter. Not that the backups could do any better, but he's not a guy that's going to throw for 4,000+ yards.

OSU's defense looked solid on Saturday. I'd put the Cowboys at the top of the Big 12 pecking order right now. Oklahoma, Texas, TCU & Baylor look like they could all contend for the title though. Looks like Texas Tech is about 1 year away and the rest of the Big 12 might struggle (although we haven't seen Kansas play yet). And of course it is only 1 game so far for most of the league. A lot of things can happen over the course of a football season.
This post was edited on 9/3 4:23 PM by bobhertzel'ssweatpants
 
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