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No need to sugar coat it ... Men's Basketball team should be embarassed

The Bell Tolls for Thee

All-Conference
Feb 15, 2005
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Texas has some athletes and a coach that has proven to be successful, but the performance of the Longhorns today was exactly what you'd expect for a team with a .647 record. They didn't go above and beyond. At flipping home our guys should win against this level of play 10/10 times. It didn't seem to me to just be "one of those games," but rather a lack of focus by our guys. Let this be a wake-up call, just beating Kansas does not a season make and if you don't play EVERY game like you are going up against a good team eager to take you down, you will lose in this conference.
 
Texas has some athletes and a coach that has proven to be successful, but the performance of the Longhorns today was exactly what you'd expect for a team with a .647 record. They didn't go above and beyond. At flipping home our guys should win against this level of play 10/10 times. It didn't seem to me to just be "one of those games," but rather a lack of focus by our guys. Let this be a wake-up call, just beating Kansas does not a season make and if you don't play EVERY game like you are going up against a good team eager to take you down, you will lose in this conference.

Agreed. I too believe that we didn't have focus from the start. We matched up with a team that plays full court much like we do. And we didn't handle it well. We got smacked in the mouth early and just expected things to go our way. We forced too many things, and Devin Williams disappeared again in the 1st half of a game. He ended up with a double-double, but instead of 12 points and 10 boards, he needs to be scoring 18-20 points against teams like Texas. And Carter and Miles.....yikes. Paige was off. Phillip couldn't do anything because he must have screwed the ref's girlfriend or wife cause he was called for a foul every time he was on the court.
 
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Carter and Miles were horrible! Paige and Phillip not much better. The only guy that played like he cared even a little bit was Holton. Bad, Bad loss. No excuse.
 
It's the Big 12. EVERY team is a threat. Free throw shooting will be addressed by the future Hall of Fame coach. He didn't win almost 800 games by accident.. This was a great teaching lesson, too. After all, January and February are only warmups for March Madness.

Bring in Jerry West to teach free throw shooting..

Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa State and even Baylor have had or will have these days. Just don't do this in March Madness or you go home.

Press Virginia met the originator of it. That's part of it.

WVU still is in the hunt. And the players have been served notice that, in the Big 12, you can't take a game off and not pay for it.

The sky is not falling. The Promised Land still is possible. But attitude and aggressive defense are mandatory requirements for that to happen. There's no place for street attitude here. It's Press Virginia basketball.

And we're only halfway through the season. No need for euphoria or despair.
 
No doubt each and every one of the players on this team will do things in life that they will one day be embarrassed of, but I don't think having a bad game should be one of them and I certainly don't feel it's the place of a fan sitting on his couch to shame them for it.
 
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No doubt each and every one of the players on this team will do things in life that they will one day be embarrassed of, but I don't think having a bad game should be one of them and I certainly don't feel it's the place of a fan sitting on his couch to shame them for it.

Don't be so overly dramatic. I'm not saying be embarrassed for the rest of their life or carry regretful shame. I'm saying in the immediate term they should feel somewhat embarrassed that they just went through the motions against Texas like their ranking or previous accomplishments would carry the day. Losing is not something to be embarrassed about, it happens. Being lazy and not trying your best is.
 
It was a bad game. We are still one game AHEAD of where I thought we would be at this point when I made the preseason picks. (Granted, with Ridley out and us playing well, I did think we would win last night even though I picked UT to sweep us in my preseason picks but it's not a huge shock and hardly the end of the world.). I had us going 0-4 vs. UT and KU and we're going to be at least 1 game better than that.

I had us splitting with TTU, Baylor, ISU and OU. So, if we win at TTU Saturday, we're back 2 games in front of my picks. I consider that pretty good.

It's a long season and people tend to get carried away with both good wins and bad losses. We are not a good shooting team and won't become one but we probably won't have many games where everyone is that bad on the same night and we shoot FTs that poorly on top of it. Add to that, the few TOs we got and really we're lucky it was that close.

We've proven we can win, and over good teams, without shooting that well.

I picked a 10-8 Big 12 record preseason and now 12-6, which is a great record in this league with our roster and would get us an excellent seed, is within reach. No need to despair.

Also, even 10-8 gets us comfortably into the tourney. (Actually, 9-9 and we'd still make it.).


Last night was disappointing, but I still think we will exceed what I expected before the season:

- Overall regular season 21-10
- OOC record prediction 11-2
- B12 record prediction 10-8

- Post season prediction
1-1 Big 12 tournament
8 seed NCAA
2nd round NCAA (1-1)
23-12 final record

- Regular season losses:
OOC: UVA, Fla.
Big 12: Kansas x2, Texas x2, @OU, @ISU, @TTU, @Baylor
 
Don't be so overly dramatic. I'm not saying be embarrassed for the rest of their life or carry regretful shame. I'm saying in the immediate term they should feel somewhat embarrassed that they just went through the motions against Texas like their ranking or previous accomplishments would carry the day. Losing is not something to be embarrassed about, it happens. Being lazy and not trying your best is.

It's so easy to judge the effort of others while perched from your lazy boy, isn't it?
 
It was a bad game. We are still one game AHEAD of where I thought we would be at this point when I made the preseason picks. (Granted, with Ridley out and us playing well, I did think we would win last night even though I picked UT to sweep us in my preseason picks but it's not a huge shock and hardly the end of the world.). I had us going 0-4 vs. UT and KU and we're going to be at least 1 game better than that.

I had us splitting with TTU, Baylor, ISU and OU. So, if we win at TTU Saturday, we're back 2 games in front of my picks. I consider that pretty good.

It's a long season and people tend to get carried away with both good wins and bad losses. We are not a good shooting team and won't become one but we probably won't have many games where everyone is that bad on the same night and we shoot FTs that poorly on top of it. Add to that, the few TOs we got and really we're lucky it was that close.

We've proven we can win, and over good teams, without shooting that well.

I picked a 10-8 Big 12 record preseason and now 12-6, which is a great record in this league with our roster and would get us an excellent seed, is within reach. No need to despair.

Also, even 10-8 gets us comfortably into the tourney. (Actually, 9-9 and we'd still make it.).


Last night was disappointing, but I still think we will exceed what I expected before the season:

- Overall regular season 21-10
- OOC record prediction 11-2
- B12 record prediction 10-8

- Post season prediction
1-1 Big 12 tournament
8 seed NCAA
2nd round NCAA (1-1)
23-12 final record

- Regular season losses:
OOC: UVA, Fla.
Big 12: Kansas x2, Texas x2, @OU, @ISU, @TTU, @Baylor

We have a much higher ceiling than your prediction. What you predicted should be the bare minimum for a team returning as much as we did from a Sweet 16 team. However, anymore games like Wednesday against teams we should beat and your scenario could become a reality.
 
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