Next head coach discussion

[Chris from WV]

This is a matter of timing.

Just as the university once had an opening for a head basketball coach and Bob Huggins was available to "come home," his tenure at WVU, although not ending as many had hoped, still boasted a national reputation and winning percentage that were unparalleled by any other candidate we could have attracted.

Now, the football team finds itself in a similar situation. There's a head coaching prospect who has secured a D-I national title, recruited 4- and 5-star players, and triumphed at the highest level of collegiate competition in the SEC. Rumor has it, he's looking to return home.

It's widely acknowledged that WVU, among other universities, is grappling with the financial demands of the new industry structure. Coach Jimbo Fisher represents a bold move that could potentially place us in the most favorable financial position conceivable.

Thoughts?

 

[ThePunish-EER]

This is a matter of timing.

Just as the university once had an opening for a head basketball coach and Bob Huggins was available to "come home," his tenure at WVU, although not ending as many had hoped, still boasted a national reputation and winning percentage that were unparalleled by any other candidate we could have attracted.

Now, the football team finds itself in a similar situation. There's a head coaching prospect who has secured a D-I national title, recruited 4- and 5-star players, and triumphed at the highest level of collegiate competition in the SEC. Rumor has it, he's looking to return home.

It's widely acknowledged that WVU, among other universities, is grappling with the financial demands of the new industry structure. Coach Jimbo Fisher represents a bold move that could potentially place us in the most favorable financial position conceivable.

Thoughts?

Jimbo Fisher is a no brainer hire for WVU. Question is, can they mutually agree and work out a contract?

 

[WVUALLEN]

Jimbo is washed up and finished, IMO. But I wouldn't say no if they hired. They should be prepared for him to leave in 3 years if he turns it around quickly. West Virginia native, Jimbo Fisher, is among the favorites to take over the Mountaineers when Brown is inevitably fired.

Barry Odom has been mentioned as a replacement and is good friends with Wren. Not my favorite and would be very skeptical of this hire. Barry at Missouri from 2016 to 2019 compiled a 25-25 record. While that didn't end well, Coach Odom has quickly revitalized his career in Las Vegas. Problem might be we are replacing one Brown for another.

Glenn Schumann, who is the current defensive coordinator for the Georgia Bulldogs, is only 34 years old and considered one of the brightest young coaches in college sports and is a former staff member under Nick Saban at Alabama.

Colin Klein, another young coach at only 35 years old, is the current offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Texas A&M. Klein is a former starting quarterback at Kansas State and has experience in the Big 12.

Outside shot Penn State offensive coordinator Andy Kotelnicki.

Then there is the story with Rodriguez and if he would be a good decision for WVU. Lot of things would need to be settled for that to happen. Fans would be split, which they have been for some time now. but one thing that brings it all back together is winning. Could he repeat what he did first time around. Maybe with the right players like he did with Pat White.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Jimbo Fisher is a no brainer hire for WVU. Question is, can they mutually agree and work out a contract?

Following the dismissal, the Aggies will owe Fisher a total of $76 million left in his contract, which is by far the biggest buyout in college football. He is set to receive 9.5 million until 2031 regardless if he gets a new job or not.

Jimbo has no ties to WVU other than being born in Clarksburg WV.

If Neal Brown contract is terminated then WVU would owe him 13.5 million. I believe that's down to 9 million or so now. Terminating Brown Could potentially be the most financially prudent in WVU history. Reports suggest that donors already have the money for a buyout. They could get away with paying Fisher less than 2 million if he would agree to that. It's not like he would need the money.

So from a financial standpoint he would be the best option.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Following the dismissal, the Aggies will owe Fisher a total of $76 million left in his contract, which is by far the biggest buyout in college football. He is set to receive 9.5 million until 2031 regardless if he gets a new job or not.

Jimbo has no ties to WVU other than being born in Clarksburg WV.

If Neal Brown contract is terminated then WVU would owe him 13.5 million. I believe that's down to 9 million or so now. Terminating Brown Could potentially be the most financially prudent in WVU history. Reports suggest that donors already have the money for a buyout. They could get away with paying Fisher less than 2 million if he would agree to that. It's not like he would need the money.

So from a financial standpoint he would be the best option.

That is actually incorrect. Jimbo recently bought a large farm in north central WV. His family still lives here.

**Edit. I didn’t read it correctly, you said no ties to WVU. That is correct. He has connections to WV.

 

[Chris from WV]

That is actually incorrect. Jimbo recently bought a large farm in north central WV. His family still lives here.

Similar to Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher also grew up following West Virginia University football - which helps tie into a recent interview in which has said that he was happy at other places, but "home is home". Fisher was making the point that he would always listen and entertain the possibility of coaching at WVU.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Similar to Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher also grew up following West Virginia University football - which helps tie into a recent interview in which has said that he was happy at other places, but "home is home".

My wife’s family knows the Fishers quite well. It would not shock me to see him take the WVU job if mutually agreed upon. Like I said, he’s recently bought a large farm back here in North Central WV.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Basically depends on what his expectations and ego are at his age.

If he wants to get back to something he enjoyed, and picking here as a landing spot is more of a passion project than anything else, then I say yes let’s roll the dice.

If he is just looking for the fattest contract available to him and a springboard back into a premium SEC job then he can kick rocks. I’d rather take a shot on a first time HC again then have our financially strapped University that is cutting classes and faculty left and right pay a mercenary who could easily shit the bed and make things even worse than they already are.

Obviously it’s tough to know someone’s true intentions until they arrive, but this would be an instant credibility hire that gives us a chance to compete in a wide open conference so long as he is in it because he is passionate about his home state school.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Bring in Jimbo if he will do it. Rumors are that he's interested but rumors may not be true. If he wants the job, get it done tho, imo.

If he doesn't want it look at Chadwell or Rich Rod and i know RR is highly unlikely to even make the list. It is what it is. I would probably rather give Odom's oc a chance instead of him. Just don't see it with him tbh, but whoever they hire i will give a chance including him.

 

[EERs 3:16]

Ain’t nuffin gonna happen until after signing day

 

[Chris from WV]

Ain’t nuffin gonna happen until after signing day

One thought would be that if we wait too long, our top players will be out of here!

 

[deedoubleyou]

Either way hopefully a new coach is on the horizon for WVU after this season. If Neil Brown sticks around it's just going to be more ugly bullshit. I believe if he hired the right coaches he could do better but he should have done that. It's been 6 years of this garbage. His defensive coordinator was why he was successful at Troy and he got run out of here by high school player from Charleston.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Jimbo Fisher is a no brainer hire for WVU. Question is, can they mutually agree and work out a contract?

Why is he a no brainer? UNC just fired Mack Brown and the several articles I have seen mentioning possible replacements don't include Fisher. It shouldn't be that hard to work out a contract with someone that nobody wants.

 

[oceantide83]

It's not Jimbo, so you can eliminate him from the discussion.

 

[locustwv]

It's not Jimbo, so you can eliminate him from the discussion.

You seem to know who it is. You make a comment like that you have to explain a little.

 

[EERs 3:16]

One thought would be that if we wait too long, our top players will be out of here!

No worries, the new coach will get the required three years of using the 'cupboard was empty' excuse

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Why is he a no brainer? UNC just fired Mack Brown and the several articles I have seen mentioning possible replacements don't include Fisher. It shouldn't be that hard to work out a contract with someone that nobody wants.

The better question, why do you think he is not? The guy has won a lot of games, including a NC. He won at both FSU and Texas A&M.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Basically depends on what his expectations and ego are at his age.

If he wants to get back to something he enjoyed, and picking here as a landing spot is more of a passion project than anything else, then I say yes let’s roll the dice.

If he is just looking for the fattest contract available to him and a springboard back into a premium SEC job then he can kick rocks. I’d rather take a shot on a first time HC again then have our financially strapped University that is cutting classes and faculty left and right pay a mercenary who could easily shit the bed and make things even worse than they already are.

Obviously it’s tough to know someone’s true intentions until they arrive, but this would be an instant credibility hire that gives us a chance to compete in a wide open conference so long as he is in it because he is passionate about his home state school.

He's already getting 76 million from Texas A&M. His contract doesn't need fattening.

 

[WVUALLEN]

No worries, the new coach will get the required three years of using the 'cupboard was empty' excuse

Doubtful as transfer portal closes that excuse.

 

[Chris from WV]

He's already getting 76 million from Texas A&M. His contract doesn't need fattening.

I know; there's talk that Jimbo may give a hometown discount to coach the Mountaineers.

 

[xWVU2010x]

He's already getting 76 million from Texas A&M. His contract doesn't need fattening.

Then naturally he’ll take a market rate deal with no buyout needed if he fails right?

 

[WVUALLEN]

Then naturally he’ll take a market rate deal with no buyout needed if he fails right?

I figure 2 million and no buyout if he really wants to be here he'll take it.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

I know; there's talk that Jimbo may give a hometown discount to coach the Mountaineers.

Then naturally he’ll take a market rate deal with no buyout needed if he fails right?

I figure 2 million and no buyout if he really wants to be here he'll take it.

Why would he need to come back to coach here for way below his market value? Because he’s from West Virginia? He doesn’t owe us anything. How about WVU acts like a big boy who belongs in a P4 conference and pay the money to get him? We should feel honored one of our own appears to want to come here and coach our state university. Why insult the man thinking he should coach here for nothing?

 

[WVUALLEN]

Why would he need to come back to coach here for way below his market value? Because he’s from West Virginia? He doesn’t owe us anything. How about WVU acts like a big boy who belongs in a P4 conference and pay the money to get him? We should feel honored one of our own appears to want to come here and coach our state university. Why insult the man thinking he should coach here for nothing?

He's already making 76 million at 9.3 million a year. Why would WVU pay him 4 to 8 million? Especially since he claimed he would come to WVU for discounted price.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

He's already making 76 million at 9.3 million a year. Why would WVU pay him 4 to 8 million? Especially since he claimed he would come to WVU for discounted price.

To each their own, but I personally would find it insulting to make less than Neal Brown was making at WVU.

 

[WVUALLEN]

To each their own, but I personally would find it insulting to make less than Neal Brown was making at WVU.

Then let his fat old ass run away crying. He's the one offered the discount.

 

[ThePunish-EER]

Then let his fat old ass run away crying. He's the one offered the discount.

You pay for what you get. You want cheap? Keep Neal Brown and finish at the bottom echelon of the B12.

 

[WVUALLEN]

You pay for what you get. You want cheap? Keep Neal Brown and finish at the bottom echelon of the B12.

Or hire an old washed up millionaire who forgot how to coach.

 

[WVU_Dave]

Jimbo is washed up and finished, IMO. But I wouldn't say no if they hired. They should be prepared for him to leave in 3 years if he turns it around quickly. West Virginia native, Jimbo Fisher, is among the favorites to take over the Mountaineers when Brown is inevitably fired.

Barry Odom has been mentioned as a replacement and is good friends with Wren. Not my favorite and would be very skeptical of this hire. Barry at Missouri from 2016 to 2019 compiled a 25-25 record. While that didn't end well, Coach Odom has quickly revitalized his career in Las Vegas. Problem might be we are replacing one Brown for another.

Glenn Schumann, who is the current defensive coordinator for the Georgia Bulldogs, is only 34 years old and considered one of the brightest young coaches in college sports and is a former staff member under Nick Saban at Alabama.

Colin Klein, another young coach at only 35 years old, is the current offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Texas A&M. Klein is a former starting quarterback at Kansas State and has experience in the Big 12.

Outside shot Penn State offensive coordinator Andy Kotelnicki.

Then there is the story with Rodriguez and if he would be a good decision for WVU. Lot of things would need to be settled for that to happen. Fans would be split, which they have been for some time now. but one thing that brings it all back together is winning. Could he repeat what he did first time around. Maybe with the right players like he did with Pat White.

I'd rather retread RR then Jimbo as we know RR won't leave again if he does well.

 

[WVUALLEN]

I'd rather retread RR then Jimbo as we know RR won't leave again if he does well.

True.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

The better question, why do you think he is not? The guy has won a lot of games, including a NC. He won at both FSU and Texas A&M.

The guy hasn't won a National Championship in over a decade. His career has been on a downward trend for years. Anyone who coaches at Texas AM has a great in state recruiting base. One of the largest athletic budgets in the county and boosters that are willing to shell out big money in NIL deals. Add it all up and Fisher failed to get the job done. If he were as great as you think he would be mentioned for the UNC job and the fact that he hasn't should tell you something.

 

[deedoubleyou]

The guy hasn't won a National Championship in over a decade. His career has been on a downward trend for years. Anyone who coaches at Texas AM has a great in state recruiting base. One of the largest athletic budgets in the county and boosters that are willing to shell out big money in NIL deals. Add it all up and Fisher failed to get the job done. If he were as great as you think he would be mentioned for the UNC job and the fact that he hasn't should tell you something.

Texas A&M hasn't won a conference title since 1998 when they were in the big 12. Since they've been in the SEC they've only even finished runner-up in the conference division twice and that was under Jimbo. Sometimes all the money in the world can't buy what you really want. For Texas A&M, they may never buy a championship. They have their sights set way way higher than wvu though and its literally not even close. We are not the same. I mean our fan base and admin is trying to reach just to find more reasons to keep the worst coach since the 1960s. Texas A&M on the other hand would have never had Brown on their list, ever, and if by some miracle they did, he would've been fired after year 1 or 2 because they would not tolerate his weakness down there. We're just not the same as Texas A&M lol. It's not comparable at all really. The thought of Texas A&M keeping Mr Bean for 6 years is laughable lol. They have much much higher expectations there.

If Jimbo was 45 and 25 at WVU after 6 years, nobody would be talking about the hot seat. I mean it's not even close. He would still be the coach here with that record. They are literally considering keeping Goofy for a 7th year with a way worse record and the difficulty of schedule is on a whole nother level with Texas a&m. Another thing that's really not comparable.

But you know let's keep talking like Jimbo Fisher isn't worthy of WVU and let's just keep sticking with Neal Brown lmao! Stupid fkn rubbish.... 🙄

 

[deedoubleyou]

And for the record I would rather have Rodriguez but too many WVU fans will always be butt hurt over what happened. I just don't think he would want to come back here because of that. The drama would probably not be worth it. Rich Rod hurt everyone's feelings 20 years ago boo hoo. I mean we may as well just extend Neil brown. Obviously we love him because he's never going to hurt our feelings lol. A lot of WVU fans would rather have that than a winning team. Oh my goodness but they're just going to leave for a bigger school. Let's just keep brown with that attitude....

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Texas A&M hasn't won a conference title since 1998 when they were in the big 12. Since they've been in the SEC they've only even finished runner-up in the conference division twice and that was under Jimbo. Sometimes all the money in the world can't buy what you really want. For Texas A&M, they may never buy a championship. They have their sights set way way higher than wvu though and its literally not even close. We are not the same. I mean our fan base and admin is trying to reach just to find more reasons to keep the worst coach since the 1960s. Texas A&M on the other hand would have never had Brown on their list, ever, and if by some miracle they did, he would've been fired after year 1 or 2 because they would not tolerate his weakness down there. We're just not the same as Texas A&M lol. It's not comparable at all really. The thought of Texas A&M keeping Mr Bean for 6 years is laughable lol. They have much much higher expectations there.

If Jimbo was 45 and 25 at WVU after 6 years, nobody would be talking about the hot seat. I mean it's not even close. He would still be the coach here with that record. They are literally considering keeping Goofy for a 7th year with a way worse record and the difficulty of schedule is on a whole nother level with Texas a&m. Another thing that's really not comparable.

But you know let's keep talking like Jimbo Fisher isn't worthy of WVU and let's just keep sticking with Neal Brown lmao! Stupid fkn rubbish.... 🙄

Jimbo Fisher is nothing more than a reclamation project at this point. The guy had all the resources in the world at AM and he couldn't win. He was 5-7 in year 5 and 6-4 at the time he was fired in year 6. That is cutting it especially when NIL heavily favored a school like Tamu. Stop making excuses for the guy. He is a wash out and you would never mention him if he wasn't from WV. The types of coaches that UNC will pursue are the same types that WVU will pursue. Fisher isn't being mentioned for the UNC job and if he were as great as you seem to think he would.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Jimbo Fisher is nothing more than a reclamation project at this point. The guy had all the resources in the world at AM and he couldn't win. He was 5-7 in year 5 and 6-4 at the time he was fired in year 6. That is cutting it especially when NIL heavily favored a school like Tamu. Stop making excuses for the guy. He is a wash out and you would never mention him if he wasn't from WV. The types of coaches that UNC will pursue are the same types that WVU will pursue. Fisher isn't being mentioned for the UNC job and if he were as great as you seem to think he would.

Care to point out where i said he was great? Ill wait.....

Despite anything, Jimbo is a way better coach than Neal Brown and its not even close. Anyone who thinks otherwise is drunk on idiocy. Keep trying tho....

 

[skygusty]

And for the record I would rather have Rodriguez but too many WVU fans will always be butt hurt over what happened. I just don't think he would want to come back here because of that. The drama would probably not be worth it. Rich Rod hurt everyone's feelings 20 years ago boo hoo. I mean we may as well just extend Neil brown. Obviously we love him because he's never going to hurt our feelings lol. A lot of WVU fans would rather have that than a winning team. Oh my goodness but they're just going to leave for a bigger school. Let's just keep brown with that attitude....

Butt hurt aside, did RR have much success anywhere after he left here? At the time he had a fresh concept and Pat White at WVU. I honestly did not follow him and don't even know where he went after Michigan

 

[deedoubleyou]

Butt hurt aside, did RR have much success anywhere after he left here? At the time he had a fresh concept and Pat White at WVU. I honestly did not follow him and don't even know where he went after Michigan

No he hasn't. You are correct. That being said i don't think it was all him. Imo he's just a better fit at WVU and always was. That ship has sailed though, imo.

 

[xWVU2010x]

Why would he need to come back to coach here for way below his market value? Because he’s from West Virginia? He doesn’t owe us anything. How about WVU acts like a big boy who belongs in a P4 conference and pay the money to get him? We should feel honored one of our own appears to want to come here and coach our state university. Why insult the man thinking he should coach here for nothing?

I said a market rate deal FWIW.

I don’t think we should move heaven and earth to get him. He’s old, 1 year removed from the game, has no history recruiting to WVU or its neighboring peers and with more resources and money to work with than most coaches he put in ho hum results. The school he left is better without him.

But yes, if he just wants to coach again and is willing to understand that we are going to offer a market rate deal and not hamstring ourselves to a coach who objectively could fall on his face without endless resources to work with, then I say welcome home.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Care to point out where i said he was great? Ill wait.....

Despite anything, Jimbo is a way better coach than Neal Brown and its not even close. Anyone who thinks otherwise is drunk on idiocy. Keep trying tho....

Who wants Jimbo? That should tell you something. You're the one who keeps telling us we get great players, and we can get a great coach.

 

[deedoubleyou]

Who wants Jimbo? That should tell you something. You're the one who keeps telling us we get great players, and we can get a great coach.

How do you know teams don't want jimbo? I know the answer to that. You don't lol. Not even close. You don't even know what's going on behind the scenes at wvu, let alone anyone else. Jimbo will coach again if he wants to whether it's here or someone else. There are plenty of teams who would want him. To think otherwise is just a little bit delusional actually. So let's just see how it plays out. When Jimbo says he wants to go back to coaching he will get plenty of job offers.