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New BIG 12 media rights almost done

The league is in the final stages of putting together a six-year, $2.8 billion contract extension that includes a sizable pay bump for schools. The new contract, which takes hold starting in 2025, includes ESPN owning more than 60 percent of the inventory and Fox adding a sizable portion of college basketball.
 

Big 12 scores big win by renewing media rights deal with ESPN, Fox​

Sunday, October 30, 2022

 
So the BIG 12 will remain ahead of the acc in media rights by a wide margin— also this doesnt include other revenue streams such as bowls and post season events outside the ccgs.

Keeps the conference as a major player and not out of the stratosphere of the Sec and Big ten in the same rights fees. Also back to market again before the acc and sec.
 
New P12 media deal will be crucial. If our media deal is much > than P12 then P12 is in trouble. AZ, ASU, UU & CU would bolt to the B12.
 
New P12 media deal will be crucial. If our media deal is much > than P12 then P12 is in trouble. AZ, ASU, UU & CU would bolt to the B12.
There’s just no way the Pac12 could be worth more as it currently stands. I’d venture to say their contract will be 8-10 million less per school.
 
Yormark knows what the PAC12 deal is going to be already, which is why he's been so gung-ho about not taking the Big12 deal to market and getting a deal done quickly, but also having it open back up before the SEC/ACC deals. This has been masterful behind-the-scenes work by Yormark to harm the PAC12 and protect the Big12.
 
Yormark walked that talk. For anyone and everyone keeping score I'm still batting a thousand on every step of this so far.
Yormark knows what each PAC 12 team will bring when they come on. Those teams also know. The PAC 12 has probably known their final media number for at least 2 months.

They have nothing to gain by announcing it. It will start a fire sale.

Their Commish is likely feeding the school ADs some bullshit like, "We are still actively engaging other media partners including new options with streaming services like Amazon Prime. I will not rest until we come up with a package that makes the PAC 12 an ongoing force now and into the future. I do appreciate your patience in this ongoing process" or similar sounding garbage. Their contract goes through next season, so they will drag out revealing the final package as long as possible in order to keep this group together going into the offseason. It won't work.

Yormark smells blood. We'll sweep up the 4 PAC 12 teams I mentioned months ago and wait for the SEC to raid the ACC in a year or two. We already have the numbers for targeted ACC teams as well.
 
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New P12 media deal will be crucial. If our media deal is much > than P12 then P12 is in trouble. AZ, ASU, UU & CU would bolt to the B12.
Either way the B10 is probably going to add more western schools at some point because you can’t leave USC and UCLA floating out there too long by themselves. Once that happens Pac schools will bail their sinking ship.
 
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According to Max Olson of The Athletic, the new deal will have a pro rata clause in the event of future expansion.

According to Iowa State AD Jamie Pollard, the total annual payout to each team will be approximately 50 million per school. That amount has now been confirmed by various outlets. The reported new deal does not include CFP payout or NCAA tournament payments.
 
There is when you’re not B1G or SEC and eventually shut out

That may be true, but this is the best deal that WVU and the Big12 can hope for right now. I think it is a fantastic (temporary) outcome. What would you do right now if you were WVU and the Big12?
 
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There is when you’re not B1G or SEC and eventually shut out
Pure fantasy. Those leagues have made a bit more for a long time and the BIG 12 will still have games on sports networks and broadcast as always. The SEC and B10 getting paid more doesn’t relegate the BIG 12 to non existent status and the money difference isn’t as large as it is painted to be. The base number the SEC and B10 get is being misreported as $100,000,000 per school- but that is really a projection combining what they’ll actually get plus the new playoff payout, bowls, and other amounts.
 
Pure fantasy. Those leagues have made a bit more for a long time and the BIG 12 will still have games on sports networks and broadcast as always. The SEC and B10 getting paid more doesn’t relegate the BIG 12 to non existent status and the money difference isn’t as large as it is painted to be. The base number the SEC and B10 get is being misreported as $100,000,000 per school- but that is really a projection combining what they’ll actually get plus the new playoff payout, bowls, and other amounts.
If you can’t see what the top two conferences are doing, then you have your head buried in the sand. It’s heading to 48 schools, and we need to make sure we’re one of them.
 
If you can’t see what the top two conferences are doing, then you have your head buried in the sand. It’s heading to 48 schools, and we need to make sure we’re one of them.
Not sure why he wants the Big 12 to expand west. Most of the television sets are east of the Mississippi. The four corner schools keep getting mentioned but outside of Utah they are some of the worst power 5 programs around. Utah is not adding anything when you already have BYU. Its an overlapping market and not a very big one at that.
 
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Not sure why he wants the Big 12 to expand west. Most of the television sets are east of the Mississippi. The four corner schools keep getting mentioned but outside of Utah they are some of the worst power 5 programs around. Utah is not adding anything when you already have BYU. Its an overlapping market and not a very big one at that.
Never should of added byu in the first place
 
Not sure why he wants the Big 12 to expand west. Most of the television sets are east of the Mississippi. The four corner schools keep getting mentioned but outside of Utah they are some of the worst power 5 programs around. Utah is not adding anything when you already have BYU. Its an overlapping market and not a very big one at that.
Wants PAC teams for 3 reasons.

1. Kills the PAC

2. Big 12 will be 16 teams

3. Adds to BYU schedule so teams like WVU, Cincinnati and UCF don't have to play them often.
 
Never gonna happen.
In the near future no but if the conferences expand to 24 a piece we have a shot. You have to remember FSU, Clemson and ND are really the only blue bloods left on the chess board for the Sec and Big 10. After that its the best of the rest
 
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Wants PAC teams for 3 reasons.

1. Kills the PAC

2. Big 12 will be 16 teams

3. Adds to BYU schedule so teams like WVU, Cincinnati and UCF don't have to play them often.
Expanding west doesn't really help wvu just makes us more of an outlier. The pac 12 schools with the most value don't want to come. CU AZ and Az state are 3 of the worst power 5 teams out there they don't bring value. Whatever happens it still isn't going to change the fact that schools will run when then Sec and Big 10 come calling.
 
Expanding west doesn't really help wvu just makes us more of an outlier. The pac 12 schools with the most value don't want to come. CU AZ and Az state are 3 of the worst power 5 teams out there they don't bring value. Whatever happens it still isn't going to change the fact that schools will run when then Sec and Big 10 come calling.
No more beef east.
No Memphis, USF, ECU...or any of the many other dead weight dummy's. WVU has Cincinnati and USF. Plus they invented airplanes like a 100 years ago or more.

On December 17, 1903, Wilbur and Orville Wright made four brief flights at Kitty Hawk with their first powered aircraft. The Wright brothers had invented
the first successful airplane.

By having 16 teams WVU doesn't have to fly west every single game. Regular season games for every season TCU, UCF, Cincinnati, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State.

SEC and Big 10 are not going to come calling on Big 12 teams. Big 10 will go for California because UCLA will have to bring them or be sued. Then Oregon or Washington, they won't take both, then ND will finally be forced to join the Big 10 or not ever make the playoffs.

SEC waiting on ACC expired contract.
 
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No more beef east.
No Memphis, USF, ECU...or any of the many other dead weight dummy's. WVU has Cincinnati and USF. Plus they invented airplanes like a 100 years ago or more.

On December 17, 1903, Wilbur and Orville Wright made four brief flights at Kitty Hawk with their first powered aircraft. The Wright brothers had invented
the first successful airplane.

By having 16 teams WVU doesn't have to fly west every single game. Regular season games for every season TCU, UCF, Cincinnati, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State.

SEC and Big 10 are not going to come calling on Big 12 teams. Big 10 will go for California because UCLA will have to bring them or be sued. Then Oregon or Washington, they won't take both, then ND will finally be forced to join the Big 10 or not ever make the playoffs.

SEC waiting on ACC expired contract.
Where's the beef out west? Oregon is the best but we know where they stand
 
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Liked these points:

According to Max Olson of The Athletic, the new deal will have a pro rata clause in the event of future expansion.

According to Iowa State AD Jamie Pollard, the total annual payout to each team will be approximately 50 million per school. That amount has now been confirmed by various outlets. The reported new deal does not include CFP payout or NCAA tournament payments.
Couple of things are going on here. First off, this is the reason why no one has bailed out of the sinking Pac12. Amazon, Silicon Valley, etc. we will be there only life boat of even keeping that sinking ship together…and it will also have to include a heavier payout for Oregon and Washington Per their request.

San Diego State could very well be invited to the Big 12 within months. This will be devastating to the Pac12. This is a tremendous opportunity to get in the Southern California market. Odd number of teams definitely those things for a loop, but maybe a Memphis or a South Florida?



The ACC will eventually fall apart. They’re very well could be a merging opportunity between the big 12 and ACC after all of the defections in several years.

Lastly, This is huge. This is a hell of a job from a guy that just took over a few months ago that was in a conference that was damn near dead 15 months ago. Our season has been extremely disappointing, but this is a decent silver lining.
 
The ACC will eventually fall apart. They’re very well could be a merging opportunity between the big 12 and ACC after all of the defections in several years.
If we are still in the Big12 if such a merger with the ACC starts to happen, there will be several schools from both leagues that will not make that cut, WVU would be one of them.
 
If you can’t see what the top two conferences are doing, then you have your head buried in the sand. It’s heading to 48 schools, and we need to make sure we’re one of them.
The earliest that is going to happen barring ACC bolting a GOR would be after 2036. Over a decade from now.

At the current time ESPN, FoX, NBC and CBS have lots of college football and basketball slots to fill and neither the SEC or Big Ten have enough inventory to cover many of those slots.

There is no P2 and major college football will continue beyond Missouri, South Carolina, Mississippi, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Rutgers Purdue, Maryland and Northwestern— don’t kid yourself- you certainly aren’t fooling anyone else.
 
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