My Big 12 expansion wish list would be :
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Did a Pitt fan named Pandarod ever post here? He's over on our board floating the ridiculous idea of the Sooners joining the ACC. He mentioned West Virginia.
https://oklahoma.forums.rivals.com/threads/i-wish-the-acc-would-invite-oklahoma.69622/
https://oklahoma.forums.rivals.com/threads/i-wish-the-acc-would-invite-oklahoma.69622/
I think BYU should pony up by agreeing to play on Sunday, if not screw them is what I say. Should not be catered too, WVU had enough of that with Notre Dame in old Big East. That's why I got them so low on my list as I know they won't agree to terms as they think everyone else should cater to them.
BYU needs Big 12 way more than Big 12 needs BYU. Agree to play on Sundays or hope the conference expands to 4 teams and they are the 4th team.
BYU needs Big 12 way more than Big 12 needs BYU. Agree to play on Sundays or hope the conference expands to 4 teams and they are the 4th team.
Add them for football only maybe. Makes the basketball schedule more difficult with 11 teams or 13.
Pandarod is a Pitt homer who thinks the program is much better than they actually are. Everyone on the East coast knows that the entire athletic program there is largely irrelevant.
He is also a pot-stirrer. He will monitor this board also and now that I've mentioned him in a post he will be over here too.
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Spoke w/several sources about Big 12 expansion. Everyone in play. Best quote: “Cincinnati leader in clubhouse but we don’t have a clubhouse"
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Spoke w/several sources about Big 12 expansion. Everyone in play. Best quote: “Cincinnati leader in clubhouse but we don’t have a clubhouse"
Pretty sad when the Big 12 is having to look at adding a school in UCF that is mired in a 13-game losing streak! Having finished last season 0-12 and last in the AAC!
Add to that UCF basketball program would have difficulty competing in CUSA, MAC, Colonial, etc etc.
The arguments for UCF (growth, location, tv market etc) are the same tired arguments the Big East heard about USF when they were given the chance to compete in a BCS Conference. None of those so called "advantages" ever elevated them to any sustained success.
Add to that UCF basketball program would have difficulty competing in CUSA, MAC, Colonial, etc etc.
The arguments for UCF (growth, location, tv market etc) are the same tired arguments the Big East heard about USF when they were given the chance to compete in a BCS Conference. None of those so called "advantages" ever elevated them to any sustained success.
I just don’t understand the Big 12 not wanting to own Houston, Texas, which is soon to be the third-largest populace in the United States. There’s more talk about the SEC than there is the Big 12 in Houston, Texas. To me, it’s a no-brainer. I’m shocked it’s not an automatic.
BYU is the only contender with a national championship to its name. Since 1990, BYU has finished the season in the top twenty-five ten times, and has averaged nine wins a year over the last ten. Their fans are fanatical. (they need to be a full member and not football only)
Eliminate Memphis, a basketball school with less-than-ideal academics, and South Florida, which hasn’t fielded a strong team since 2007. Central Florida would bring the Orlando TV market and has enjoyed a little more success on the field than USF, but they are coming off a win less season and certainly aren’t a big-name program.
Lovable underdogs Boise State and basketball powerhouse UConn are both crazy far away. Colorado State has the virtue of sharing a state with a charter Big 12 member,(who is now a Pac 12 team) but the scrappy Rams lack the splashy name-brand pizzazz that Boren is looking for. As do the Cincinnati Bearcats, despite their two BCS bowl bids (which UC lost).
If the conference chooses to expand by only two, Brigham Young and the University of Houston would be the best bets. If B12 expands by 4, then you have a toss up for the last 2 spots.
BYU is the only contender with a national championship to its name. Since 1990, BYU has finished the season in the top twenty-five ten times, and has averaged nine wins a year over the last ten. Their fans are fanatical. (they need to be a full member and not football only)
Eliminate Memphis, a basketball school with less-than-ideal academics, and South Florida, which hasn’t fielded a strong team since 2007. Central Florida would bring the Orlando TV market and has enjoyed a little more success on the field than USF, but they are coming off a win less season and certainly aren’t a big-name program.
Lovable underdogs Boise State and basketball powerhouse UConn are both crazy far away. Colorado State has the virtue of sharing a state with a charter Big 12 member,(who is now a Pac 12 team) but the scrappy Rams lack the splashy name-brand pizzazz that Boren is looking for. As do the Cincinnati Bearcats, despite their two BCS bowl bids (which UC lost).
If the conference chooses to expand by only two, Brigham Young and the University of Houston would be the best bets. If B12 expands by 4, then you have a toss up for the last 2 spots.
My list would include whatever teams really get Texas and Oklahoma to sign a new, long-term GOR. Beyond that I don't really GAF. We will still be traveling, a lot, maybe even more. We will be losing the round-robin. We will be seeing Texas and Oklahoma less often. We will still be on an island (even if they add another island school) and maybe facing more competition in recruiting Ohio and the region. Maybe we even get to swap games against Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU and KSU for games against UCONN and Memphis. Yay. Stability is about the best we can hope for.
Houston doesn't have a splashy name or reputation and gets about 20,000 people a game in their stadium.
BYU has Sunday issues and is really far away from everyone,
Schools like Memphis and Cincinnati bridge the conference better and have tremendous corporate support. They are in large new markets with tremendous recruiting. They both have strong basketball in addition to football. Cincinnatis football has been as good as any of the others or better for a long period of time and we've seen what Memphis can do with crowds over 60,000 strong and beating top SEC squads when they have good coaching.
UConn gets the league into NYC which is a must. They have top notch basketball which the BIG 12 needs to remain at the top as well as a football program that has won a BCS league in the recent past and has lots of NFl
l draftees. A major conference and good coaching along with the support of a state could make a very big difference with a flagship like UConn.
Just adding schools that Ut can control doesn't address the needs the conference has necessarily.
They don't have to look at UCF, that's just talk from the fans. There is more than one power 5 team stuck in a non P5 conference. That's who they want.
Two west and two east...Houston and Colorado State for obvious market size reasons and Cincinnati and Memphis for bridge to WVU. Or go to 16 and be done with it by adding BYU and UCF.
Naaah....
Geographic bridge and since this is really about money.....The FedEx Big 12 Championship
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