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MSU's Eron Harris struggles learning Tom Izzo's style

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FULLERTON, Calif. – Eron Harris understands what he has to do to spend more time on the court. He just doesn't know how to do it yet.

Michigan State's junior transfer shooting guard arrived in East Lansing with a résumé stuffed with offensive accomplishments: He scored some 18 points a game at West Virginia. He shot 42% from the three-point line, the third-best percentage in the Big 12 conference. He compiled a highlight-reel tape of slick and creative drives to the basket.

This explains why his coaches could be heard imploring him from the bench to attack the rim Friday night against Boise State. He did, once. More often he settled for a jump shot and hesitated even when he shot from close range.

Harris is not comfortable playing for coach Tom Izzo yet. And while he hardly resembles the player he was at West Virginia, his bigger issue is on defense.

In MSU's first six games, Harris has struggled to keep his man in front of him.


"There is no way anybody should go by Eron Harris," Izzo said Friday night after his Spartans beat Boise State, 77-67, in the semifinals of the Wooden Legacy tournament. "He might be the best athlete on the team, and it's just inexcusable."

Izzo said this from a post-game dais at Titan Gym on Cal-State Fullerton's campus. Denzel Valentine and Lourawls (Tum Tum) Nairn Jr. sat next to Izzo. Both nodded in agreement when their coach made the declaration.

All three think Harris has the ability to become a solid defensive player. He just didn't grow up in a program that stressed it the way MSU does.

The good news, joked Izzo, is that "we are happy we are in California, because there are a lot more people out here than there are in Michigan. We are going to send (him) to Disney tonight to see if (he) can find somebody he can guard."

Sometimes when players are offensive-minded and they struggle to score, it carries over to the defensive end, too. Harris looks so out of sorts on certain possessions that it hinders his confidence.

Several times against Boise State, he either couldn't keep his man in front of him or misread the ball screen. Because he has the quickness and strength to stay with just about any perimeter player, his letdowns are a matter of positioning and balance.

Izzo thinks that will come. But until then he will be reluctant to give Harris more minutes. Harris played just four minutes Friday, partly because of foul trouble.

Whether to play Harris more or not is a conundrum for Izzo. Players often use time on the court to work out their issues. On the other hand, those "issues" can cost the team an important possession.

Izzo said former MSU star Draymond Green, who was at Thursday's game against Boston College, told him to give Harris a chance.

"I'll give anybody a chance when they miss shots or even throw the ball away, but effort-related things can't be tolerated here," he said. "Eron played where he could score points. You don't win games just scoring points. He's good enough to do both. Now in fairness to Eron, he's been out a year and a half."

Izzo acknowledged the team needs Harris.

"We need to get him in there," he said.

So he will keep giving Harris a chance. Keep prodding him. Keep watching film with him and pointing out how to set his feet and find his balance. But Izzo said he will rely on Valentine and Nairn Jr. — the leaders of the team — to push Harris, too.

"They are tight with him," he said. "If we can get some consistency out of him, we really step up a notch with our game."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...state-spartans-eron-harris-tom-izzo/76516396/
 
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FULLERTON, Calif. – Eron Harris understands what he has to do to spend more time on the court. He just doesn't know how to do it yet.

Michigan State's junior transfer shooting guard arrived in East Lansing with a résumé stuffed with offensive accomplishments: He scored some 18 points a game at West Virginia. He shot 42% from the three-point line, the third-best percentage in the Big 12 conference. He compiled a highlight-reel tape of slick and creative drives to the basket.

This explains why his coaches could be heard imploring him from the bench to attack the rim Friday night against Boise State. He did, once. More often he settled for a jump shot and hesitated even when he shot from close range.

Harris is not comfortable playing for coach Tom Izzo yet. And while he hardly resembles the player he was at West Virginia, his bigger issue is on defense.

In MSU's first six games, Harris has struggled to keep his man in front of him.


"There is no way anybody should go by Eron Harris," Izzo said Friday night after his Spartans beat Boise State, 77-67, in the semifinals of the Wooden Legacy tournament. "He might be the best athlete on the team, and it's just inexcusable."

Izzo said this from a post-game dais at Titan Gym on Cal-State Fullerton's campus. Denzel Valentine and Lourawls (Tum Tum) Nairn Jr. sat next to Izzo. Both nodded in agreement when their coach made the declaration.

All three think Harris has the ability to become a solid defensive player. He just didn't grow up in a program that stressed it the way MSU does.

The good news, joked Izzo, is that "we are happy we are in California, because there are a lot more people out here than there are in Michigan. We are going to send (him) to Disney tonight to see if (he) can find somebody he can guard."

Sometimes when players are offensive-minded and they struggle to score, it carries over to the defensive end, too. Harris looks so out of sorts on certain possessions that it hinders his confidence.

Several times against Boise State, he either couldn't keep his man in front of him or misread the ball screen. Because he has the quickness and strength to stay with just about any perimeter player, his letdowns are a matter of positioning and balance.

Izzo thinks that will come. But until then he will be reluctant to give Harris more minutes. Harris played just four minutes Friday, partly because of foul trouble.

Whether to play Harris more or not is a conundrum for Izzo. Players often use time on the court to work out their issues. On the other hand, those "issues" can cost the team an important possession.

Izzo said former MSU star Draymond Green, who was at Thursday's game against Boston College, told him to give Harris a chance.

"I'll give anybody a chance when they miss shots or even throw the ball away, but effort-related things can't be tolerated here," he said. "Eron played where he could score points. You don't win games just scoring points. He's good enough to do both. Now in fairness to Eron, he's been out a year and a half."

Izzo acknowledged the team needs Harris.

"We need to get him in there," he said.

So he will keep giving Harris a chance. Keep prodding him. Keep watching film with him and pointing out how to set his feet and find his balance. But Izzo said he will rely on Valentine and Nairn Jr. — the leaders of the team — to push Harris, too.

"They are tight with him," he said. "If we can get some consistency out of him, we really step up a notch with our game."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...state-spartans-eron-harris-tom-izzo/76516396/


Sounds like the same issues at WVU only with less minutes

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FULLERTON, Calif. – Eron Harris understands what he has to do to spend more time on the court. He just doesn't know how to do it yet.

Michigan State's junior transfer shooting guard arrived in East Lansing with a résumé stuffed with offensive accomplishments: He scored some 18 points a game at West Virginia. He shot 42% from the three-point line, the third-best percentage in the Big 12 conference. He compiled a highlight-reel tape of slick and creative drives to the basket.

This explains why his coaches could be heard imploring him from the bench to attack the rim Friday night against Boise State. He did, once. More often he settled for a jump shot and hesitated even when he shot from close range.

Harris is not comfortable playing for coach Tom Izzo yet. And while he hardly resembles the player he was at West Virginia, his bigger issue is on defense.

In MSU's first six games, Harris has struggled to keep his man in front of him.


"There is no way anybody should go by Eron Harris," Izzo said Friday night after his Spartans beat Boise State, 77-67, in the semifinals of the Wooden Legacy tournament. "He might be the best athlete on the team, and it's just inexcusable."

Izzo said this from a post-game dais at Titan Gym on Cal-State Fullerton's campus. Denzel Valentine and Lourawls (Tum Tum) Nairn Jr. sat next to Izzo. Both nodded in agreement when their coach made the declaration.

All three think Harris has the ability to become a solid defensive player. He just didn't grow up in a program that stressed it the way MSU does.

The good news, joked Izzo, is that "we are happy we are in California, because there are a lot more people out here than there are in Michigan. We are going to send (him) to Disney tonight to see if (he) can find somebody he can guard."

Sometimes when players are offensive-minded and they struggle to score, it carries over to the defensive end, too. Harris looks so out of sorts on certain possessions that it hinders his confidence.

Several times against Boise State, he either couldn't keep his man in front of him or misread the ball screen. Because he has the quickness and strength to stay with just about any perimeter player, his letdowns are a matter of positioning and balance.

Izzo thinks that will come. But until then he will be reluctant to give Harris more minutes. Harris played just four minutes Friday, partly because of foul trouble.

Whether to play Harris more or not is a conundrum for Izzo. Players often use time on the court to work out their issues. On the other hand, those "issues" can cost the team an important possession.

Izzo said former MSU star Draymond Green, who was at Thursday's game against Boston College, told him to give Harris a chance.

"I'll give anybody a chance when they miss shots or even throw the ball away, but effort-related things can't be tolerated here," he said. "Eron played where he could score points. You don't win games just scoring points. He's good enough to do both. Now in fairness to Eron, he's been out a year and a half."

Izzo acknowledged the team needs Harris.

"We need to get him in there," he said.

So he will keep giving Harris a chance. Keep prodding him. Keep watching film with him and pointing out how to set his feet and find his balance. But Izzo said he will rely on Valentine and Nairn Jr. — the leaders of the team — to push Harris, too.

"They are tight with him," he said. "If we can get some consistency out of him, we really step up a notch with our game."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...state-spartans-eron-harris-tom-izzo/76516396/


"Harris compiled a highlight reel of slick and creatives drives to the basket". WTF??? I think the writer has him confused with someone else.
 
"Harris compiled a highlight reel of slick and creatives drives to the basket". WTF??? I think the writer has him confused with someone else.

That's exactly what I thought. Dude never attacked the rim. The writer never watched him play.

And what's up with that comment about him not coming from a program that stresses defensive?
 
So when Huggins was installing the new full court press defensive ( which eventually got WVU to another Sweet Sixteen ), Harris understanding that playing defense wasn't one of his strong points, decided to leave the program. And after sitting out for a year and transferring to MSU, he is faced again with having to either play defense or not play at all.
 
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So when Huggins was installing the new full court press defensive ( which eventually got WVU to another Sweet Sixteen ), Harris understanding that playing defense wasn't one of his strong points, decided to leave the program. And after sitting out for a year and transferring to MSU, he is faced again with having to either play defense or not play at all.

Wow, so Harris now left because Huggins was installing the full court press? Even though he left at the end of the season, long before Huggins even decided to install a press...

That is getting close to Keaton's "Harris is a locker room thief" story.
 
Who didn't see this coming? He picked the wrong school to transfer too... He didn't stay here because he couldn't/didn't want to play defense so he goes to Michigan state who also stresses defense.
 
The article says they all three think he can become a solid defensive player but didn't grow up in a program that stressed it like mich state. What? Huggins always stressed D, different styles now but he always has emphasized d play. I'm not sure where they think he transferred from.
 
The article says they all three think he can become a solid defensive player but didn't grow up in a program that stressed it like mich state. What? Huggins always stressed D, different styles now but he always has emphasized d play. I'm not sure where they think he transferred from.

that was actually offensive. garbage writer
 
The player couldn't figure out what the coaches wanted from him but.................the coaches figured out what they wanted from the player. It became a case of mistaken identify.
 
His selection of msu was puzzling. Many folks on here expressed such when he announced msu was his choice. It still makes no sense.
 
I never get down on kids who transfer or act like knuckleheads. They're indemnified by their youth. Surely I have not lived a life free of regret. I wish everyone the best in life.

Harris is a basketball player at Michigan State University. I've seen bigger mistakes. Good or bad, it was his decision to make and it's never good to have people around who don't want to be there.

I think when he's more mature he'll wish he "knew then, what he knows now" and wonder, what if...but what adult hasn't had that same emotion?
 
Defense was always his problem at WVU and now the same at his new school. He is out of options so my guess is he finally adapts and learns how to play defense. The trolls and low information irish posters still think he left because of Huggins coaching style. It is always entertaining to see them eat crow again and again and again.
 
So when Huggins was installing the new full court press defensive ( which eventually got WVU to another Sweet Sixteen ), Harris understanding that playing defense wasn't one of his strong points, decided to leave the program. And after sitting out for a year and transferring to MSU, he is faced again with having to either play defense or not play at all.

One point - Huggins didn't decide to install the full court press until last fall. Harris left the program well before that. He did not leave because we were going to press. No one knew when he left that WVU was going to full-court pressure defense.
 
Heck.................back in my prime..............the only thing I wanted to do is shoot the Ozark. After about three games and dozens of attempts, I never hit one. This put me on the bench. I always believed I could hit one if coach would just put me in the game. Defense? That stuff never shows in the stats.
 
The writer of the article was referring to his HS when he said he didnt come from defensive-minded system.... Harris's senior year, there were 3 D1 commits on the roster

And he was able to lead them to a .500 record because there was zero defense.
 
One point - Huggins didn't decide to install the full court press until last fall. Harris left the program well before that. He did not leave because we were going to press. No one knew when he left that WVU was going to full-court pressure defense.

Huggins and his staff had spent the last few years trying to build a roster that could play defense that way. And in that summer when Higgins' friend Kevin Mackey visited, he realized that he finally had the players. Harris had known for awhile what they were trying to do and the direction they were headed. Combine that with a stronger inside game and that was more than enough for Harris to start packing. Now he is faced with similar issues at MSU.
 
Huggs lost his three worse defenders in harris, henderson and dibo in one week. that is a big reason why they could press the next year.
 
Defense was always his problem at WVU and now the same at his new school. He is out of options so my guess is he finally adapts and learns how to play defense. The trolls and low information irish posters still think he left because of Huggins coaching style. It is always entertaining to see them eat crow again and again and again.

Low information? You mean like saying Harris left because Huggins started installing a press defense?

Your response when called out by another poster above was almost a copy and paste from a bleacher report article on Huggins friendship with Mackey. So I'm not sure how much more low information you can get than plagiarizing Bleacher Report. What you left out was the next paragraph in the article when it talks about losing Dibo, Harris and Henderson and signing 5 new players which caused Huggins to install a press the next fall.
 
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FULLERTON, Calif. – Eron Harris understands what he has to do to spend more time on the court. He just doesn't know how to do it yet.

Michigan State's junior transfer shooting guard arrived in East Lansing with a résumé stuffed with offensive accomplishments: He scored some 18 points a game at West Virginia. He shot 42% from the three-point line, the third-best percentage in the Big 12 conference. He compiled a highlight-reel tape of slick and creative drives to the basket.

This explains why his coaches could be heard imploring him from the bench to attack the rim Friday night against Boise State. He did, once. More often he settled for a jump shot and hesitated even when he shot from close range.

Harris is not comfortable playing for coach Tom Izzo yet. And while he hardly resembles the player he was at West Virginia, his bigger issue is on defense.

In MSU's first six games, Harris has struggled to keep his man in front of him.


"There is no way anybody should go by Eron Harris," Izzo said Friday night after his Spartans beat Boise State, 77-67, in the semifinals of the Wooden Legacy tournament. "He might be the best athlete on the team, and it's just inexcusable."

Izzo said this from a post-game dais at Titan Gym on Cal-State Fullerton's campus. Denzel Valentine and Lourawls (Tum Tum) Nairn Jr. sat next to Izzo. Both nodded in agreement when their coach made the declaration.

All three think Harris has the ability to become a solid defensive player. He just didn't grow up in a program that stressed it the way MSU does.

The good news, joked Izzo, is that "we are happy we are in California, because there are a lot more people out here than there are in Michigan. We are going to send (him) to Disney tonight to see if (he) can find somebody he can guard."

Sometimes when players are offensive-minded and they struggle to score, it carries over to the defensive end, too. Harris looks so out of sorts on certain possessions that it hinders his confidence.

Several times against Boise State, he either couldn't keep his man in front of him or misread the ball screen. Because he has the quickness and strength to stay with just about any perimeter player, his letdowns are a matter of positioning and balance.

Izzo thinks that will come. But until then he will be reluctant to give Harris more minutes. Harris played just four minutes Friday, partly because of foul trouble.

Whether to play Harris more or not is a conundrum for Izzo. Players often use time on the court to work out their issues. On the other hand, those "issues" can cost the team an important possession.

Izzo said former MSU star Draymond Green, who was at Thursday's game against Boston College, told him to give Harris a chance.

"I'll give anybody a chance when they miss shots or even throw the ball away, but effort-related things can't be tolerated here," he said. "Eron played where he could score points. You don't win games just scoring points. He's good enough to do both. Now in fairness to Eron, he's been out a year and a half."

Izzo acknowledged the team needs Harris.

"We need to get him in there," he said.

So he will keep giving Harris a chance. Keep prodding him. Keep watching film with him and pointing out how to set his feet and find his balance. But Izzo said he will rely on Valentine and Nairn Jr. — the leaders of the team — to push Harris, too.

"They are tight with him," he said. "If we can get some consistency out of him, we really step up a notch with our game."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...state-spartans-eron-harris-tom-izzo/76516396/
635843450310769873-SMG-20151127-pjc-ar5-07.jpg


FULLERTON, Calif. – Eron Harris understands what he has to do to spend more time on the court. He just doesn't know how to do it yet.

Michigan State's junior transfer shooting guard arrived in East Lansing with a résumé stuffed with offensive accomplishments: He scored some 18 points a game at West Virginia. He shot 42% from the three-point line, the third-best percentage in the Big 12 conference. He compiled a highlight-reel tape of slick and creative drives to the basket.

This explains why his coaches could be heard imploring him from the bench to attack the rim Friday night against Boise State. He did, once. More often he settled for a jump shot and hesitated even when he shot from close range.

Harris is not comfortable playing for coach Tom Izzo yet. And while he hardly resembles the player he was at West Virginia, his bigger issue is on defense.

In MSU's first six games, Harris has struggled to keep his man in front of him.


"There is no way anybody should go by Eron Harris," Izzo said Friday night after his Spartans beat Boise State, 77-67, in the semifinals of the Wooden Legacy tournament. "He might be the best athlete on the team, and it's just inexcusable."

Izzo said this from a post-game dais at Titan Gym on Cal-State Fullerton's campus. Denzel Valentine and Lourawls (Tum Tum) Nairn Jr. sat next to Izzo. Both nodded in agreement when their coach made the declaration.

All three think Harris has the ability to become a solid defensive player. He just didn't grow up in a program that stressed it the way MSU does.

The good news, joked Izzo, is that "we are happy we are in California, because there are a lot more people out here than there are in Michigan. We are going to send (him) to Disney tonight to see if (he) can find somebody he can guard."

Sometimes when players are offensive-minded and they struggle to score, it carries over to the defensive end, too. Harris looks so out of sorts on certain possessions that it hinders his confidence.

Several times against Boise State, he either couldn't keep his man in front of him or misread the ball screen. Because he has the quickness and strength to stay with just about any perimeter player, his letdowns are a matter of positioning and balance.

Izzo thinks that will come. But until then he will be reluctant to give Harris more minutes. Harris played just four minutes Friday, partly because of foul trouble.

Whether to play Harris more or not is a conundrum for Izzo. Players often use time on the court to work out their issues. On the other hand, those "issues" can cost the team an important possession.

Izzo said former MSU star Draymond Green, who was at Thursday's game against Boston College, told him to give Harris a chance.

"I'll give anybody a chance when they miss shots or even throw the ball away, but effort-related things can't be tolerated here," he said. "Eron played where he could score points. You don't win games just scoring points. He's good enough to do both. Now in fairness to Eron, he's been out a year and a half."

Izzo acknowledged the team needs Harris.

"We need to get him in there," he said.

So he will keep giving Harris a chance. Keep prodding him. Keep watching film with him and pointing out how to set his feet and find his balance. But Izzo said he will rely on Valentine and Nairn Jr. — the leaders of the team — to push Harris, too.

"They are tight with him," he said. "If we can get some consistency out of him, we really step up a notch with our game."

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...state-spartans-eron-harris-tom-izzo/76516396/
Breaking news Harris can't play and won't play D
 
Low information? You mean like saying Harris left because Huggins started installing a press defense?

Your response when called out by another poster above was almost a copy and paste from a bleacher report article on Huggins friendship with Mackey. So I'm not sure how much more low information you can get than plagiarizing Bleacher Report. What you left out was the next paragraph in the article when it talks about losing Dibo, Harris and Henderson and signing 5 new players which caused Huggins to install a press the next fall.


LOL. Huggins told the same story about 100 times and I don't read the bleacher report. Even the Marshall fans got tired of you and Dave. Dumb and Dumber and we all know who is who.

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Yawn. More low information and low IQ drivel from you...

I'll say it one more time and then I'm done. Harris' decision to leave had nothing to do with a press defense.

Feel free to reply with deflections about Marshall, Hank Hill or John Raese while not admitting you were completely wrong.
 
It had everything to do with not being able to play defense ( a problem he apparently still has at MSU ). You can believe whatever you want too.
 
there is a lot incorrect in this thread pertaining to the Eron Harris exit

He wanted unrealistic demands

He convinced Dibo to move home and quit college ball

He got in Terry's ear from February on about transferring. They tried to figure out a way to go to the same school. Didnt work.

Had nothing to do with Press Virginia


In Harris' defense, he was 100% right about Dibo. Remi hated school and would not have gotten the court time he got once PressVirginia was installed...


It took a season of the lowly British Basketball League for Remi but now he has proven he is good enough to play pro ball in France. He is in the French Pro A league now

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/France/Le_Mans_Sarthe_Basket/346?Page=1
 
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