Might as well write Ohio State's name into the 2017 playoffs now

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Get ready for incest with the College Football Pretzel committee. Ohio State athletic director GeneSmith has been appointed to the committee.


Even without Smith, but with a Wisconsin surrogate in Barry Alvarez, Ohio State became the ONLY team chosen for the 4-team playoffs that didn’t make its conference title game.


The #3 Big Ten Buckeyes were judged the #3 national team and got forced onto the playoffs.


The CFP said the Ohio State athletic director will be sent out of the room when the Buckeyes are discussed. I guess that means Smith will have to do his lobbying in the men’s room.


Does anyone really think that Smith on the committee won’t help Ohio State? If so, why not have Shane Lyons added to the committee? Won’t help WVU make the playoffs, right?


There’s a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell to anyone who believes this crap after what we witnessed during the 2016 season when the committee used different logic to force the Buckeyes into the playoffs than they used for other schools.


Penn State’s Big 10 title and victory over Ohio State was meaningless because it didn’t fit the CFP’s agenda.

 

[MountaineerGuy]

Get ready for incest with the College Football Pretzel committee. Ohio State athletic director GeneSmith has been appointed to the committee.


Even without Smith, but with a Wisconsin surrogate in Barry Alvarez, Ohio State became the ONLY team chosen for the 4-team playoffs that didn’t make its conference title game.


The #3 Big Ten Buckeyes were judged the #3 national team and got forced onto the playoffs.


The CFP said the Ohio State athletic director will be sent out of the room when the Buckeyes are discussed. I guess that means Smith will have to do his lobbying in the men’s room.


Does anyone really think that Smith on the committee won’t help Ohio State? If so, why not have Shane Lyons added to the committee? Won’t help WVU make the playoffs, right?


There’s a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell to anyone who believes this crap after what we witnessed during the 2016 season when the committee used different logic to force the Buckeyes into the playoffs than they used for other schools.


Penn State’s Big 10 title and victory over Ohio State was meaningless because it didn’t fit the CFP’s agenda.

Agreed. It's going to be Ohio State, 8 or 9 years out of 10, and 3 other teams that make the Final 4....... It will be shocking to see them not included at some point..............doubly so with their AD now on the Committee.....

 

[topdecktiger]

Get ready for incest with the College Football Pretzel committee. Ohio State athletic director GeneSmith has been appointed to the committee.


Even without Smith, but with a Wisconsin surrogate in Barry Alvarez, Ohio State became the ONLY team chosen for the 4-team playoffs that didn’t make its conference title game.


The #3 Big Ten Buckeyes were judged the #3 national team and got forced onto the playoffs.


The CFP said the Ohio State athletic director will be sent out of the room when the Buckeyes are discussed. I guess that means Smith will have to do his lobbying in the men’s room.


Does anyone really think that Smith on the committee won’t help Ohio State? If so, why not have Shane Lyons added to the committee? Won’t help WVU make the playoffs, right?


There’s a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell to anyone who believes this crap after what we witnessed during the 2016 season when the committee used different logic to force the Buckeyes into the playoffs than they used for other schools.


Penn State’s Big 10 title and victory over Ohio State was meaningless because it didn’t fit the CFP’s agenda.

You are getting way too worked up about this. The only reason Ohio St got in was because Penn St had 2 losses. If Penn St was 12-1, Ohio St would not have made it.

In fact, that is EXACTLY what happened last year. Ohio St was 11-1 last year. Michigan St went 12-1, beat Ohio St, and won the Big Ten. Michigan St got in, and Ohio St didn't.

Again, Ohio St didn't get in because the committee is rigged. They got in because Penn St had an extra loss. That's it.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

You are getting way too worked up about this. The only reason Ohio St got in was because Penn St had 2 losses. If Penn St was 12-1, Ohio St would not have made it.

In fact, that is EXACTLY what happened last year. Ohio St was 11-1 last year. Michigan St went 12-1, beat Ohio St, and won the Big Ten. Michigan St got in, and Ohio St didn't.

Again, Ohio St didn't get in because the committee is rigged. They got in because Penn St had an extra loss. That's it.

So the ONLY team to get in without playing in its conference championship game got in because it's not rigged? I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. By end of the season, Ohio State was NOT a top 4 team. Penn State was better. Southern Cal was better. Buckeyes should have been ranked #7 and we could have avoided the stink of a playoff shutout. You can make the point that Ohio State was better than Penn State early in the season, but the committee says it's picking the 4 best teams at the end of the season. Ohio State was stumbling all over the place by then.

 

[topdecktiger]

So the ONLY team to get in without playing in its conference championship game got in because it's not rigged? I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. By end of the season, Ohio State was NOT a top 4 team. Penn State was better. Southern Cal was better. Buckeyes should have been ranked #7 and we could have avoided the stink of a playoff shutout. You can make the point that Ohio State was better than Penn State early in the season, but the committee says it's picking the 4 best teams at the end of the season. Ohio State was stumbling all over the place by then.

I'm not trying to make the point that Ohio St was better. I'm telling you Ohio St didn't get in because of the system being rigged. Your point is completely contradicted by the fact that both the AP and Coaches poll had Ohio St #2. If it was just the committee being rigged, then everybody else wouldn't have Ohio St ranked that high either.

And again, you keep ignoring these inconvenient facts that contradict your point. The last two years, you didn't have an at large team with a better record than 4 of the conference champs. This is the only year you did. Penn St and Oklahoma both had 2 losses. Ohio St only had 1 loss. That's what made the difference. You can't ignore that fact just because it interferes with your conspiracy theory.

You also keep acting like Ohio St was the only team to get blown out in the playoffs. Michigan St also got shut out last year, worse than Ohio St did. Frankly, Clemson would have blown out Penn St or Ohio St either way. And I have no idea why you keep bringing up Southern Cal. They didn't win their conference or division either, plus they lost 3 games, so I have no idea why you are even making them part of this discussion.

 

[Buckaineer]

The system is rigged and is a total scam/sham.

Penn State BEAT Ohio State head to head--supposed to be a big part of the criteria used to determine invitees

Penn State WON the conference Ohio State is in (and also the DIVISION Ohio State is in)---again, supposed to be a major factor in determining playoff participation

PSU played in the B10 conference championship game and WON that game--something the executive director of the playoff and committee chair claimed over and over was extremely important to the committee in determining participation on several occasions

Yet somehow Ohio State got in.

If the conference didn't feel the b10 champion was worthy then no team from the b10 should have been in the playoff. When Ohio State lost at then 2 loss PSU which was an UNRANKED team--the buckeyes should have fallen in the polls JUST LIKE OKLAHOMA DID WHEN THEY LOST--at least 10 spots and OUT OF THE TOP TEN. But since the system is rigged and those doing that needed an artificial way to get the buckeyes in? You guessed it, barely a drop at all--and to further justify the sham, PSU shot up from unranked to ranked above undefeated teams and nearly into the top ten from ONE game.

SHAM all the way

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

College Football National Championship Candidates by P5 Conference:

ACC: FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT

Big Xii: OU, OSU, UT

B1G: tOSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska

PAC 12: UCLA, Oregon, USC, Washington

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, UGA, TN, LSU, TA&M

The rest of the members of these conferences are "fillers" for the conference schedule and won't ever sniff the Playoff unless there is a catastrophic event that keeps one or more of the above out of consideration.

EX: if Miss. St would somehow run the table and win the SEC, or if Iowa did the same in the B1G they would get the nod. But if WVU ran the table in the BigXii they would get left out because obviously it was a down year for the conference.

That's just the way it is so I am putting my hopes on Huggins as BB is 100% performance based on who wins the NC.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

College Football National Championship Candidates by P5 Conference:

ACC: FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT

Big Xii: OU, OSU, UT

B1G: tOSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska

PAC 12: UCLA, Oregon, USC, Washington

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, UGA, TN, LSU, TA&M

The rest of the members of these conferences are "fillers" for the conference schedule and won't ever sniff the Playoff unless there is a catastrophic event that keeps one or more of the above out of consideration.

EX: if Miss. St would somehow run the table and win the SEC, or if Iowa did the same in the B1G they would get the nod. But if WVU ran the table in the BigXii they would get left out because obviously it was a down year for the conference.

That's just the way it is so I am putting my hopes on Huggins as BB is 100% performance based on who wins the NC.

The beauty of college basketball is that the committee can't rig it for a 3rd place Ohio State to be in a 4-team playoff. The team that wins 6 in a row is the national champ, and deserves it. You win it on the floor, not in some committee sham selections. The CFP is even worse than the BCS. At least conference champs got a shot in the BCS. No 3rd place teams. Such a scam.

 

[WB67hawk]

Why include Nebraska in your Big Ten list? They have not been relevant for 10+ years. Way overrated team and coach year after year.

 

[Buckaineer]

The NCAA tourney isn't as bad as the CFP-- but it's not without fault either. The committee there determines seeding which plays a big part in who advances- but matchups are also a huge part of it as well as location of the matchups. Leagues like the ACC and b10 have benefited for years from these things.

Look at Duke and how often they play in NC in the tournament.

 

[Buckaineer]

Why include Nebraska in your Big Ten list? They have not been relevant for 10+ years. Way overrated team and coach year after year.

The ACC has Clemson and FSU, no one else is gifted in from that conference either. PSU and Wisconsin are not shoe ins from the b10 obviously--just Ohio State and Michigan

 

[MichiganHerd]

The CFP is even worse than the BCS. At least conference champs got a shot in the BCS. No 3rd place teams. Such a scam.

.....and, the BCS formula would have had.....wait for it


Alabama vs Ohio State

 

[AWS1022]

The system is rigged and is a total scam/sham.

Penn State BEAT Ohio State head to head--supposed to be a big part of the criteria used to determine invitees

Penn State WON the conference Ohio State is in (and also the DIVISION Ohio State is in)---again, supposed to be a major factor in determining playoff participation

PSU played in the B10 conference championship game and WON that game--something the executive director of the playoff and committee chair claimed over and over was extremely important to the committee in determining participation on several occasions

Yet somehow Ohio State got in.

If the conference didn't feel the b10 champion was worthy then no team from the b10 should have been in the playoff. When Ohio State lost at then 2 loss PSU which was an UNRANKED team--the buckeyes should have fallen in the polls JUST LIKE OKLAHOMA DID WHEN THEY LOST--at least 10 spots and OUT OF THE TOP TEN. But since the system is rigged and those doing that needed an artificial way to get the buckeyes in? You guessed it, barely a drop at all--and to further justify the sham, PSU shot up from unranked to ranked above undefeated teams and nearly into the top ten from ONE game.

SHAM all the way

The system is rigged and is a total scam/sham.

Penn State BEAT Ohio State head to head--supposed to be a big part of the criteria used to determine invitees

Penn State WON the conference Ohio State is in (and also the DIVISION Ohio State is in)---again, supposed to be a major factor in determining playoff participation

PSU played in the B10 conference championship game and WON that game--something the executive director of the playoff and committee chair claimed over and over was extremely important to the committee in determining participation on several occasions

Yet somehow Ohio State got in.

If the conference didn't feel the b10 champion was worthy then no team from the b10 should have been in the playoff. When Ohio State lost at then 2 loss PSU which was an UNRANKED team--the buckeyes should have fallen in the polls JUST LIKE OKLAHOMA DID WHEN THEY LOST--at least 10 spots and OUT OF THE TOP TEN. But since the system is rigged and those doing that needed an artificial way to get the buckeyes in? You guessed it, barely a drop at all--and to further justify the sham, PSU shot up from unranked to ranked above undefeated teams and nearly into the top ten from ONE game.

SHAM all the way

Penn State was only ranked 24th after they beat OSU. Also, even in the first CFP ranking Penn State was ranked 12th and they weren't ahead of a single undefeated team except WMU.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Why include Nebraska in your Big Ten list? They have not been relevant for 10+ years. Way overrated team and coach year after year.

Past championships and then everyone could say, "Nebraska's Back!"

 

[torontoeers]

Why include Nebraska in your Big Ten list? They have not been relevant for 10+ years. Way overrated team and coach year after year.

IMO Riley has them headed in the right direction...he sets the bar high, speaks his mind, has made chicken salad outta chicken $hit before, and his players like him A LOT....Huskers were plenty banged up all year at key positions, I think we all know it's them, Wisky, and Iowa competing to go to the conference championship...No doubt Nebraska has an awful habit of coughing it up once or twice a year but i'd put $ down on them winning more often than not with Riley at the helm....just one fellas opinion...

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

[QUOTE="
Wrong. BCS would have picked conference champs.
Check it out.

2004 Pac-10 champ Southern Cal vs. Big 12 champ Oklahoma
2005 Big 12 champ Texas vs. Pac-10 champ Southern Cal
2006 SEC champ Florida vs. Big 10 champ Ohio State
2007 SEC champ LSU vs. Big 10 champ Ohio State
2008 Miami vs. Oklahoma
2009 SEC champ Alabama vs. Big 12 champ Texas
2010 SEC champ Auburn vs. Pac-10 champ Oregon
2011 for first time in history, SEC teams Alabama and LSU, which won overtime regular season game; Alabama won national title game
2012 Alabama vs. Notre Dame
2013 ACC champ Florida State vs. Auburn

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Just admit that you hate Ohio State because you attended WVU and are surrounded by Ohio State fans, old man. Your obsession with this subject is delusional and creepy. Your stupid theory that Ohio State benefits from some imaginary conspiracy is rebutted by a one-loss Ohio State being left out of the Playoffs last season, and Ohio State's basketball team being left out of the NCAA Tourney, despite having more than 20 wins, and an 11-7 conference record.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers]

Just admit that you hate Ohio State because you attended WVU and are surrounded by Ohio State fans, old man. Your obsession with this subject is delusional and creepy. Your stupid theory that Ohio State benefits from some imaginary conspiracy is rebutted by a one-loss Ohio State being left out of the Playoffs last season, and Ohio State's basketball team being left out of the NCAA Tourney, despite having more than 20 wins, and an 11-7 conference record.

Your sign-on handle disqualifies you from having a creditable opinion. Ohio State did NOT below in the 4-team playoff and the scoreless wipeout proved it. Ohio State plays basketball? I thought Lucas and Havlichek graduated. Oh, well, a Buckeye is some kind of nut. A Mountaineer is a rooting, tooting kind of real man. I have underwear older than you, too.

 

[GoWVU]

College Football National Championship Candidates by P5 Conference:

ACC: FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT

Big Xii: OU, OSU, UT

B1G: tOSU, Michigan, MSU, Wisconsin, Nebraska

PAC 12: UCLA, Oregon, USC, Washington

SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, UGA, TN, LSU, TA&M

The rest of the members of these conferences are "fillers" for the conference schedule and won't ever sniff the Playoff unless there is a catastrophic event that keeps one or more of the above out of consideration.

EX: if Miss. St would somehow run the table and win the SEC, or if Iowa did the same in the B1G they would get the nod. But if WVU ran the table in the BigXii they would get left out because obviously it was a down year for the conference.

That's just the way it is so I am putting my hopes on Huggins as BB is 100% performance based on who wins the NC.

Your list is way too complicated. It's much easier than that. Three of the four spots in the phony invitational are taken before the season even starts. They're reserved for the SEC West, the Big Ten East, and the ACC Atlantic.

The fourth slot is just a token representative of the Pac-12 or Big 12--depending on that season's unique circumstances--but who is included mainly only to keep up the appearance of "fairness" for all the remaining stooges out there who are still too dumb to have caught on to the scam.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Your sign-on handle disqualifies you from having a creditable opinion. Ohio State did NOT below in the 4-team playoff and the scoreless wipeout proved it. Ohio State plays basketball? I thought Lucas and Havlichek graduated. Oh, well, a Buckeye is some kind of nut. A Mountaineer is a rooting, tooting kind of real man. I have underwear older than you, too.

How does your sign on handle qualify you as an unbiased opinion maker? You're a Mountaineer fan living amongst Ohio State fans. Your envy is abundant and your continual posting in regard to this topic go well beyond proving you're a jelly old man.

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

Your list is way too complicated. It's much easier than that. Three of the four spots in the phony invitational are taken before the season even starts. They're reserved for the SEC West, the Big Ten East, and the ACC Atlantic.

The fourth slot is just a token representative of the Pac-12 or Big 12--depending on that season's unique circumstances--but who is included mainly only to keep up the appearance of "fairness" for all the remaining stooges out there who are still too dumb to have caught on to the scam.

Correct, but you've got to account for the occasional great team coming out of the other division like a UGA or UFL or VT or Miami just to be fair. Reality is that before the season starts 12 of the teams listed above have a shot at getting one of the four slots, the others need help along the way and everybody else can talk about what bowl game they'll go to if any.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

CFE going down in flames

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Your sign-on handle disqualifies you from having a creditable opinion. Ohio State did NOT below in the 4-team playoff and the scoreless wipeout proved it. Ohio State plays basketball? I thought Lucas and Havlichek graduated. Oh, well, a Buckeye is some kind of nut. A Mountaineer is a rooting, tooting kind of real man. I have underwear older than you, too.

To answer your disingenuous question, Ohio State's men's basketball program has accomplished the following:

One National Championship
11 Final Four appearances
31 NCAA Tournament appearances
55-30 NCAA Tournament record
12 consecutive 20-win seasons (current)

Not Kentucky's resume, but not chopped liver, either. How does your alma mater stack up?