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Listened to Doc's interview right after the game

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He did what I used to hate to hear Bill Stewart do.

That would be taking every chance to try to talk about his crap conference.

The Big East was awful outside of WVU and Louisville, and Bill took every chance to try to talk about how great it was.

Doc Holliday said that he would put CUSA's bowl accomplishments against any conference's victories. Are you high? It took you 13 wins to get a sympathetic end of the year ranking. Again, this year, you won 10 games. And, once again, it will lead to nothing.

He had every right to be pleased with the win, but it annoys me to hear coaches talk up their crap conferences. If you aren't P5 (and even the ACC would be pushing it), you aren't fooling anyone. You should seperate from P5 immediately, and play your own, independent season from May to September. Junior Varsity college football in the summer would be half pleasant. I'd pay 5 bucks to go to a summer league NCAA football game
 
CUSA is so good.....Middle Tennessee got curb stomped, Southern Miss got curb stomped, and weren't they the runner up?
 
I suppose that's better or worse than hearing opposing coaches try to talk up a win vs WVU in the Big 12? Wouldn't be refreshing to hear just one of them say "they should've stayed in the Big East."
 
I suppose that's better or worse than hearing opposing coaches try to talk up a win vs WVU in the Big 12? Wouldn't be refreshing to hear just one of them say "they should've stayed in the Big East."

Joke if you want, but if your team beat WVU, Huntington would burn to the ground. The cloud of meth smoke would travel east and wipe out large portions of Virginia.

Too bad you have crapped the bed on all dozen tries.

Did you or did you not lose your shit when you beat Purdue?

WVU deserves to be in a P5 conference. Marshall deserve to be where it is.... in the worst conference in mid major football
 
I suppose that's better or worse than hearing opposing coaches try to talk up a win vs WVU in the Big 12? Wouldn't be refreshing to hear just one of them say "they should've stayed in the Big East."

It has to suck to know Marshall will never again have anything of worth to play for. You could finish with at least 10 wins each year for the next 100 years and it won't count for anything. You will never have a shot at the big boys table.

I guess what I am trying to say is, Marshall should have stayed 1AA.
 
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Tell me exactly what you've played for since you got into the B12? Your season has essentially ended by November each year
 
Tell me exactly what you've played for since you got into the B12? Your season has essentially ended by November each year

You wouldn't understand.

It is competitive football. You win some, you lose some. We have racked up wins over the Clemson, Baylor, Texas and such. We have also lost some to Alabama and Oklahoma to name a couple.

I couldn't imagine waiting an entire offseason for my team's big showdown against f'n Purdue and Western Kentucky.

Again.... It is big boy football. You wouldn't understand. Remember when Marshall was completely psyched to beat Maryland once in 2013? WVU has done it 27 times. You haven't beaten a top 25 team since when? 2003?
 
It simply means you have more opportunities to play in those games. We've beaten South Carolina, Clemson, UofL, Temple, BYU, KSU, Maryland Purdue when given the opportunity. I'm sure at some time Vanderbilt, UK, Kansas said the same thing you say now. You play them but that's about the best WVU can hope for. You have as much shot to win a national title as we do
 
It simply means you have more opportunities to play in those games. We've beaten South Carolina, Clemson, UofL, Temple, BYU, KSU, Maryland Purdue when given the opportunity. I'm sure at some time Vanderbilt, UK, Kansas said the same thing you say now. You play them but that's about the best WVU can hope for. You have as much shot to win a national title as we do

You are wrong, and you don't even understand it. We don't field top 5 teams and no one is claiming we do. What we are claiming is that about once every 10 years or so we make a good run, and for us, the option is on the table.

And when you have beaten those teams, they werent exactly at the top of their game. Kansas State was missing their star QB.

In the 80's we played Notre Dame for the title. We lost, but that was on us. We had the opportunity and didn't get it done.

In the 90's we made a run and finished the regular season ranked #3. Had we beaten Florida we could have - not a given, but could have - finished the season as co-national champions. Again, we blew it.

In the 2000's, all we had to do was beat Pitt and we would have played Ohio State for the national title. Once again, we blew it. We were ranked #1 going into the last game of the season and choked.

We have had bowl wins over Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Clemson, South Carolina, TCU, Ole Miss, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, etc... All when they were having good years. The list of power 5 teams we have regular season wins over is a long one, but you already know all that stuff.

You terds like to point out the losses WVU has, but you like to ignore the wins. With you goons, every loss we have is devastating to our program, and when we win a game, it conveniently doesn't mean anything you like to say.

Yes the B12 has been tough, but we have beaten every team in the B12 minus KSU in football, and we have beaten every team in basketball. But according to you clowns, we aren't competitive and are just getting our asses handed to us every week.

The bottom line is, if we get our crap together and win our games, we have something meaningful to play for. We know we are not Alabama, and we have never claimed to be. But when we win, we are in the title conversation.

You goobers could go undefeated for the next ten years playing that crap schedule 99% of power 5 teams could sleepwalk through and go undefeated with in a bad year, and you would still end up playing Kent State in the Weedeater Bowl or whatever bowl is left over that power 5 programs wouldn't want.

We control our own destiny. If we get it done, we have a shot at the title. If we don't, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

You have no control over anything because you are forever mired in group of 5 lethargy status.

Want proof? Look at Boise State's accomplishments the last 15 years, and where are they? Group of 5 with no shot at a title.

But yeah, you sure told me.
 
You wouldn't understand.

It is competitive football. You win some, you lose some. We have racked up wins over the Clemson, Baylor, Texas and such. We have also lost some to Alabama and Oklahoma to name a couple.

I couldn't imagine waiting an entire offseason for my team's big showdown against f'n Purdue and Western Kentucky.

Again.... It is big boy football. You wouldn't understand. Remember when Marshall was completely psyched to beat Maryland once in 2013? WVU has done it 27 times. You haven't beaten a top 25 team since when? 2003?

Let's look at reality, since you moved to the Big 12 for the 2012 season, wvu is 74th in college football in winning percentage. When this year is finished, you will still be right about at that spot. That puts you even with teams like NC State, Maryland, and Sryacuse, teams I'm sure you think wvu is much better than. You actually rank below teams like Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, and Pitt. You have been a failure at "big boy football".

Oh, and the last time we beat a ranked team was 2011, but we haven't had that many opportunities since then.
 
Let's look at reality, since you moved to the Big 12 for the 2012 season, wvu is 74th in college football in winning percentage. When this year is finished, you will still be right about at that spot. That puts you even with teams like NC State, Maryland, and Sryacuse, teams I'm sure you think wvu is much better than. You actually rank below teams like Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, and Pitt. You have been a failure at "big boy football".

Oh, and the last time we beat a ranked team was 2011, but we haven't had that many opportunities since then.

and marine remember, mooU's schedule attitude won't give mooU many opportunities!!! mooU sure changed it stance from..play anybody anywhere to play a schedule full of patsies and beat their chest!
 
Let's look at reality, since you moved to the Big 12 for the 2012 season, wvu is 74th in college football in winning percentage. When this year is finished, you will still be right about at that spot. That puts you even with teams like NC State, Maryland, and Sryacuse, teams I'm sure you think wvu is much better than. You actually rank below teams like Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, and Pitt. You have been a failure at "big boy football".

Oh, and the last time we beat a ranked team was 2011, but we haven't had that many opportunities since then.

More vicarious victories for terdland. Congrats. I am sure that puts more trophies in your case.
 
Let's look at reality, since you moved to the Big 12 for the 2012 season, wvu is 74th in college football in winning percentage. When this year is finished, you will still be right about at that spot. That puts you even with teams like NC State, Maryland, and Sryacuse, teams I'm sure you think wvu is much better than. You actually rank below teams like Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, and Pitt. You have been a failure at "big boy football".

Oh, and the last time we beat a ranked team was 2011, but we haven't had that many opportunities since then.

Hopefully scheduling Appy State to a home and home will change that

When's the last time you beat a ranked team that actually finished the season ranked?
 
Let's look at reality, since you moved to the Big 12 for the 2012 season, wvu is 74th in college football in winning percentage. When this year is finished, you will still be right about at that spot. That puts you even with teams like NC State, Maryland, and Sryacuse, teams I'm sure you think wvu is much better than. You actually rank below teams like Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, and Pitt. You have been a failure at "big boy football".

Oh, and the last time we beat a ranked team was 2011, but we haven't had that many opportunities since then.

If you honestly believe that, you are as delusional as I thought you were. We've beaten TTU 3 out of 4 times, no, it's not 12-0, but 3 out of 4 is pretty good. Pitt has lost to MAC teams repeatedly the last few years. And Vandy? I don't even have to address that one.
 
The chasm has been formed between the "haves" and "have nots" in college football. WVU always has been and is still in the "haves". Marshall has never been and is still in the "have nots"

WVU is relevant, Marshall is not. There is an adjustment moving up to the Big 12. There is no adjustment in moving DOWN to the gutted C-USA.

Marshall continues to have grand illusions of their place in college sports. WVU is not Bama, Ohio State or the like, but we are relevant in the conference we play in, the games we play and if we take care of business we will be in the mix. Marshall is NOT in control of their own destiny and won't ever be in the mix. Last year's 13 wins with a pity ranking of 25 at the end of the year should prove that.

It is what it is. Learn it, know it, live it and quite trying to embellish the facts.


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Let's look at reality, since you moved to the Big 12 for the 2012 season, wvu is 74th in college football in winning percentage. When this year is finished, you will still be right about at that spot. That puts you even with teams like NC State, Maryland, and Sryacuse, teams I'm sure you think wvu is much better than. You actually rank below teams like Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, and Pitt. You have been a failure at "big boy football".

Oh, and the last time we beat a ranked team was 2011, but we haven't had that many opportunities since then.
You are zero percent against WVU, which is worse than Temple, Iowa State, and Kansas...
 
Fvcking liar.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/276/year/2011/marshall-thundering-herd

It was 2003, you were close, only off by 8 years. Haven't beaten a ranked team in 12 years.

Southern Miss ended 2011 ranked #20, we beat them in 2011 26-20. I'm sorry that you don't understand what beating a ranked team means. It means beating a team that ends the season in the top 25, a team that has proven that it really is one of the top 25 teams.

Let me give you an example that you can understand. Week one of the season you play a team that opens the season ranked #25 in the country. You beat them and they go on to finish 0-12. Do you consider that a quality win over a ranked team?

Example 2, week one you play a team that is not ranked to start the season. You beat them but they go on to go 14-1 and win the national championship. Do you consider that a non-quality win over an unranked opponent?

Before you call someone a liar, especially in such a harsh manner, at least know what you are talking about.
 
If you honestly believe that, you are as delusional as I thought you were. We've beaten TTU 3 out of 4 times, no, it's not 12-0, but 3 out of 4 is pretty good. Pitt has lost to MAC teams repeatedly the last few years. And Vandy? I don't even have to address that one.

You are having all kinds of comprehension problems in this thread. You rank below those teams in winning percentage for the period of 2012-2014. I don't care what you think about who's better than who, they won more games than you over that timeframe as did 71 other teams.
 
Southern Miss ended 2011 ranked #20, we beat them in 2011 26-20. I'm sorry that you don't understand what beating a ranked team means. It means beating a team that ends the season in the top 25, a team that has proven that it really is one of the top 25 teams.

Let me give you an example that you can understand. Week one of the season you play a team that opens the season ranked #25 in the country. You beat them and they go on to finish 0-12. Do you consider that a quality win over a ranked team?

Example 2, week one you play a team that is not ranked to start the season. You beat them but they go on to go 14-1 and win the national championship. Do you consider that a non-quality win over an unranked opponent?

Before you call someone a liar, especially in such a harsh manner, at least know what you are talking about.
Pull the string and an excuse comes out...
 
You are having all kinds of comprehension problems in this thread. You rank below those teams in winning percentage for the period of 2012-2014. I don't care what you think about who's better than who, they won more games than you over that timeframe as did 71 other teams.

You will never get that time in your life back that it took to concoct that stat to put a bad spin on WVU. We are all happy about that.
 
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